Security enabled by mistake?

I can't connect my daughter's PC to my home network even though her PC
"sees" the home network. It just won't connect no matter what I do. I
suspect that it might be a security thing.

I do not have security enabled on my router/modem (Belkin) nor my own PC
(WXP SP2, Belkin desktop card). I don't *think* that I have security enabled
on my daughter's PC. But I'm not sure. How do I check?

Would this explain why I can see the network on her machine but can't
connect? The Belkin system tray icon is permanently red when it should be
green. But when I double-click this icon, it sees the home network on the
"list of available networks". I just can't get the damn thing to connect!
Help!

Bobby

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, in uk.telecom.broadband,
"Bobby" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

<snip> Sounds like best answered in uk.comp.home-networking

"Bobby" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I can't connect my daughter's PC to my home network even though her PC
> "sees" the home network. It just won't connect no matter what I do. I
> suspect that it might be a security thing.
>
> I do not have security enabled on my router/modem (Belkin) nor my own PC
> (WXP SP2, Belkin desktop card). I don't *think* that I have security
enabled
> on my daughter's PC. But I'm not sure. How do I check?
>
> Would this explain why I can see the network on her machine but can't
> connect? The Belkin system tray icon is permanently red when it should be
> green. But when I double-click this icon, it sees the home network on the
> "list of available networks". I just can't get the damn thing to connect!
> Help!
>
> Bobby
>

Had a similar problem diconnect and reconnect the router.
This worked for me.
Allso I moved the Router away from the host PC as I am sure that some
signal(RF) from the router was getting into the PC and causing problems.
Dave
>

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bobby <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I can't connect my daughter's PC to my home network even though her PC
> "sees" the home network. It just won't connect no matter what I do. I
> suspect that it might be a security thing.
>
> I do not have security enabled on my router/modem (Belkin) nor my own
> PC (WXP SP2, Belkin desktop card). I don't *think* that I have
> security enabled on my daughter's PC. But I'm not sure. How do I
> check?
>
> Would this explain why I can see the network on her machine but can't
> connect? The Belkin system tray icon is permanently red when it
> should be green. But when I double-click this icon, it sees the home
> network on the "list of available networks". I just can't get the
> damn thing to connect! Help!
>
> Bobby

Make sure that all the PCs in your network belong to the same Workgroup, and
that the network TCP/IP settings for each PC have IP Addresses in the same
range, and identical Subnet Masks.

Make sure that File & Printer Sharing is enabled on each PC, and that you
have told it to share the specific disks or directories(folders) which to
wish to access from other PCs.

Are you using Win XP SP2's built-in firewall? If so, you may have to set up
a "Trusted Zone" which includes the IP Addresses of all your networked PCs.
[I haven't installed SP2 - but have to use a Trusted Zone on ZoneAlarm - so
assume that there is an equivalent on the SP2 firewall].
--
Cheers,
Tim
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Cheers Tim. But right now I only want Internet access from my daughter's PC.

"Tiscali Tim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Bobby <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I can't connect my daughter's PC to my home network even though her PC
>> "sees" the home network. It just won't connect no matter what I do. I
>> suspect that it might be a security thing.
>>
>> I do not have security enabled on my router/modem (Belkin) nor my own
>> PC (WXP SP2, Belkin desktop card). I don't *think* that I have
>> security enabled on my daughter's PC. But I'm not sure. How do I
>> check?
>>
>> Would this explain why I can see the network on her machine but can't
>> connect? The Belkin system tray icon is permanently red when it
>> should be green. But when I double-click this icon, it sees the home
>> network on the "list of available networks". I just can't get the
>> damn thing to connect! Help!
>>
>> Bobby
>
> Make sure that all the PCs in your network belong to the same Workgroup,
> and
> that the network TCP/IP settings for each PC have IP Addresses in the same
> range, and identical Subnet Masks.
>
> Make sure that File & Printer Sharing is enabled on each PC, and that you
> have told it to share the specific disks or directories(folders) which to
> wish to access from other PCs.
>
> Are you using Win XP SP2's built-in firewall? If so, you may have to set
> up
> a "Trusted Zone" which includes the IP Addresses of all your networked
> PCs.
> [I haven't installed SP2 - but have to use a Trusted Zone on ZoneAlarm -
> so
> assume that there is an equivalent on the SP2 firewall].
> --
> Cheers,
> Tim
> ______
> Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid.
>
>

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bobby <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> "Tiscali Tim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>> Bobby <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> I can't connect my daughter's PC to my home network even though her
>>> PC "sees" the home network. It just won't connect no matter what I
>>> do. I suspect that it might be a security thing.
>>>
>>> I do not have security enabled on my router/modem (Belkin) nor my
>>> own PC (WXP SP2, Belkin desktop card). I don't *think* that I have
>>> security enabled on my daughter's PC. But I'm not sure. How do I
>>> check?
>>>
>>> Would this explain why I can see the network on her machine but
>>> can't connect? The Belkin system tray icon is permanently red when
>>> it should be green. But when I double-click this icon, it sees the
>>> home network on the "list of available networks". I just can't get
>>> the damn thing to connect! Help!
>>>
>>> Bobby
>>
>> Make sure that all the PCs in your network belong to the same
>> Workgroup, etc.


> Cheers Tim. But right now I only want Internet access from my
> daughter's PC.
>


Ah - is this a *wireless* network?

And the laptop is failing to connect wirelessly to the router, but the
desktop computer is ok?

Is the laptop set up for the right channel? Is the laptop getting an IP
address from the router ok?

Presumably the router isn't using MAC address filtering, but hasn't been
told the MAC address of the laptops' wireless card?

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Cheers,
Tim
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Sorry Tim, I should have made that clear.

Yes, it's a wireless network.

Both PCs (mine and my daughter's are desktops - but my wife uses a laptop).
Both mine and my wife's work fine.

I had to re-install XP (SR1) on my daughter's PC and then the problems
started.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Bobby

"Tiscali Tim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Bobby <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> "Tiscali Tim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>>> Bobby <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't connect my daughter's PC to my home network even though her
>>>> PC "sees" the home network. It just won't connect no matter what I
>>>> do. I suspect that it might be a security thing.
>>>>
>>>> I do not have security enabled on my router/modem (Belkin) nor my
>>>> own PC (WXP SP2, Belkin desktop card). I don't *think* that I have
>>>> security enabled on my daughter's PC. But I'm not sure. How do I
>>>> check?
>>>>
>>>> Would this explain why I can see the network on her machine but
>>>> can't connect? The Belkin system tray icon is permanently red when
>>>> it should be green. But when I double-click this icon, it sees the
>>>> home network on the "list of available networks". I just can't get
>>>> the damn thing to connect! Help!
>>>>
>>>> Bobby
>>>
>>> Make sure that all the PCs in your network belong to the same
>>> Workgroup, etc.
>
>
>> Cheers Tim. But right now I only want Internet access from my
>> daughter's PC.
>>
>
>
> Ah - is this a *wireless* network?
>
> And the laptop is failing to connect wirelessly to the router, but the
> desktop computer is ok?
>
> Is the laptop set up for the right channel? Is the laptop getting an IP
> address from the router ok?
>
> Presumably the router isn't using MAC address filtering, but hasn't been
> told the MAC address of the laptops' wireless card?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Tim
> ______
> Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid.
>
>

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bobby <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Sorry Tim, I should have made that clear.
>
> Yes, it's a wireless network.
>
> Both PCs (mine and my daughter's are desktops - but my wife uses a
> laptop). Both mine and my wife's work fine.
>
> I had to re-install XP (SR1) on my daughter's PC and then the problems
> started.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to reply.
>
> Bobby
>

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bobby <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Sorry Tim, I should have made that clear.
>
> Yes, it's a wireless network.
>
> Both PCs (mine and my daughter's are desktops - but my wife uses a
> laptop). Both mine and my wife's work fine.
>
> I had to re-install XP (SR1) on my daughter's PC and then the problems
> started.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to reply.
>
> Bobby
>
[Apologies for the empty message - I hit the wrong button!]

I suggest that you log on to the router and have a very close look at its
wireless settings - and make sure that they're matched on the troublesome
PC.

Pay particular attention to SSID (probably case sensitive), Wireless Mode
(11b only, 11g only, or mixed), Encryption (if any) and whether MAC address
filtering is in use.

On the PC, when configuring the wireless card, you probably have a choice
between using a utility provided by the manufacturer and "Letting Windows
handle the settings". It may be worth trying each of these in turn, because
there are sometimes subtle differences - particularly if you *are* using
encryption.

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Cheers,
Tim
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:49:33 +0100, "Bobby" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Sorry Tim, I should have made that clear.
>
>Yes, it's a wireless network.
>
>Both PCs (mine and my daughter's are desktops - but my wife uses a laptop).
>Both mine and my wife's work fine.
>
>I had to re-install XP (SR1) on my daughter's PC and then the problems
>started.
>

Is there also a wired network card in your daughter's PC? Most have
one nowadays.

If so, then the re-install of XP will have "bridged" all the potential
LAN connections, including both the ethernet one and the WiFi one.

Try taking the wireless connection out of the bridge. (Right click on
the connection, and select the option "Remove from Bridge".

That worked for me when I was getting the same symptoms. YMMV.

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