Security and wireless printservers?

With the fairly bumpy move to WPA and better security for WiFi how will the
wireless print servers connect? Will they likewise have WPA firmware
updates? A mixed WEP/WPA security is no better than WEP itself. Are the
wireless print servers going to become expensive orpans?

Anyone else see a problem here?

tnx
jtm

Unfortunately the trend of the market seems to indicate 802.11b products
are second class citizens to 54G products as far as WPA compliant
upgrades are concerned. You'll be hard pressed to find even the more
popular 802.11b routers and APs getting a WPA upgrade.

Having said that, if you are lucky to get a WPA upgrade for the
router/AP/printserver, and off course, also the client card, then you
don't need to worry about WEP being the weak link, since if the
router/AP/printserver supports WEP and WPA, it can probably only run one
or the other, but not both. I'm speaking from experience with the
Linksys WRT54G.


Jim Miller wrote:

> With the fairly bumpy move to WPA and better security for WiFi how will the
> wireless print servers connect? Will they likewise have WPA firmware
> updates? A mixed WEP/WPA security is no better than WEP itself. Are the
> wireless print servers going to become expensive orpans?
>
> Anyone else see a problem here?
>
> tnx
> jtm
>
>

Sammy

Do you have WPA working with the WRT54G? I've had nothing but trouble with
mine trying to get WPA working. If you've been successful please describe
your setup.

tnx
jtm


"Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...

Unfortunately the trend of the market seems to indicate 802.11b products
are second class citizens to 54G products as far as WPA compliant
upgrades are concerned. You'll be hard pressed to find even the more
popular 802.11b routers and APs getting a WPA upgrade.

Having said that, if you are lucky to get a WPA upgrade for the
router/AP/printserver, and off course, also the client card, then you
don't need to worry about WEP being the weak link, since if the
router/AP/printserver supports WEP and WPA, it can probably only run one
or the other, but not both. I'm speaking from experience with the
Linksys WRT54G.

My setup:

- Linksys WRT54G firmware v1.30.7.
- Dell TrueMobile 1300 (this is a 54g mini-pci card) with latest driver
with WPA support
- Windows WPA patch

Router settings:
- enable wireless security; security mode: wpa pre-shared key; wpa
algorithm: tkip

Windows settings:
- turn on WZC (wireless zero config); this is turned on by default.
- set SSID to same as router's
- network authentication: wpa-psk
- data encryption: tkip
- network key: same as router's

That's it.


Jim Miller wrote:

> Sammy
>
> Do you have WPA working with the WRT54G? I've had nothing but trouble with
> mine trying to get WPA working. If you've been successful please describe
> your setup.
>
> tnx
> jtm
>
>
> "Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Unfortunately the trend of the market seems to indicate 802.11b products
> are second class citizens to 54G products as far as WPA compliant
> upgrades are concerned. You'll be hard pressed to find even the more
> popular 802.11b routers and APs getting a WPA upgrade.
>
> Having said that, if you are lucky to get a WPA upgrade for the
> router/AP/printserver, and off course, also the client card, then you
> don't need to worry about WEP being the weak link, since if the
> router/AP/printserver supports WEP and WPA, it can probably only run one
> or the other, but not both. I'm speaking from experience with the
> Linksys WRT54G.
>
>

Sammy

Thanks for the feedback. I've done everything the same except for I'm using
the Centrino wireless card. Any attempt to access the WRT54G causes it to
lockup solid. No wired connection to the configuration page or access to
internet until I to a power on reset with the laptop off.

The Centrino wireless is B only, not G. I wonder if Linksys/Broadcom hosed
something up?

Glad to know it works for some one.

tnx
jtm


"Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bmabfm$jv4$(E-Mail Removed)...

My setup:

- Linksys WRT54G firmware v1.30.7.
- Dell TrueMobile 1300 (this is a 54g mini-pci card) with latest driver
with WPA support
- Windows WPA patch

Router settings:
- enable wireless security; security mode: wpa pre-shared key; wpa
algorithm: tkip

Windows settings:
- turn on WZC (wireless zero config); this is turned on by default.
- set SSID to same as router's
- network authentication: wpa-psk
- data encryption: tkip
- network key: same as router's

That's it.


Jim Miller wrote:

> Sammy
>
> Do you have WPA working with the WRT54G? I've had nothing but trouble with
> mine trying to get WPA working. If you've been successful please describe
> your setup.
>
> tnx
> jtm
>
>
> "Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Unfortunately the trend of the market seems to indicate 802.11b products
> are second class citizens to 54G products as far as WPA compliant
> upgrades are concerned. You'll be hard pressed to find even the more
> popular 802.11b routers and APs getting a WPA upgrade.
>
> Having said that, if you are lucky to get a WPA upgrade for the
> router/AP/printserver, and off course, also the client card, then you
> don't need to worry about WEP being the weak link, since if the
> router/AP/printserver supports WEP and WPA, it can probably only run one
> or the other, but not both. I'm speaking from experience with the
> Linksys WRT54G.
>
>

One suggestion is to set the WRT54G to "B" mode only, and transmission
rate to 11mbps and see what happens. This might eliminate possible bug
in router logic that determines which standard to use.

BTW, I found these two links re: centrino and wpa. Do they apply in
your case?

http://www.intel.com/support/noteboo...109-prd955.htm
http://www.intel.com/support/network...131-prd944.htm

Jim Miller wrote:

> Sammy
>
> Thanks for the feedback. I've done everything the same except for I'm using
> the Centrino wireless card. Any attempt to access the WRT54G causes it to
> lockup solid. No wired connection to the configuration page or access to
> internet until I to a power on reset with the laptop off.
>
> The Centrino wireless is B only, not G. I wonder if Linksys/Broadcom hosed
> something up?
>
> Glad to know it works for some one.
>
> tnx
> jtm
>
>
> "Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bmabfm$jv4$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> My setup:
>
> - Linksys WRT54G firmware v1.30.7.
> - Dell TrueMobile 1300 (this is a 54g mini-pci card) with latest driver
> with WPA support
> - Windows WPA patch
>
> Router settings:
> - enable wireless security; security mode: wpa pre-shared key; wpa
> algorithm: tkip
>
> Windows settings:
> - turn on WZC (wireless zero config); this is turned on by default.
> - set SSID to same as router's
> - network authentication: wpa-psk
> - data encryption: tkip
> - network key: same as router's
>
> That's it.
>
>
> Jim Miller wrote:
>
>
>>Sammy
>>
>>Do you have WPA working with the WRT54G? I've had nothing but trouble with
>>mine trying to get WPA working. If you've been successful please describe
>>your setup.
>>
>>tnx
>>jtm
>>
>>
>>"Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>Unfortunately the trend of the market seems to indicate 802.11b products
>>are second class citizens to 54G products as far as WPA compliant
>>upgrades are concerned. You'll be hard pressed to find even the more
>>popular 802.11b routers and APs getting a WPA upgrade.
>>
>>Having said that, if you are lucky to get a WPA upgrade for the
>>router/AP/printserver, and off course, also the client card, then you
>>don't need to worry about WEP being the weak link, since if the
>>router/AP/printserver supports WEP and WPA, it can probably only run one
>>or the other, but not both. I'm speaking from experience with the
>>Linksys WRT54G.
>>
>>
>
>
>

hi sammy

i tried the "b-only" option. didn't make any difference at all. router still
locked up.

the first link below is from early indicating that wpa would be supported
midyear. the second link is the announcement of the availability of the
driver through oems. i downloaded that driver from dell before trying the
wpa activity. no joy...

tnx
jtm


"Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bmbi3f$qmd$(E-Mail Removed)...

One suggestion is to set the WRT54G to "B" mode only, and transmission
rate to 11mbps and see what happens. This might eliminate possible bug
in router logic that determines which standard to use.

BTW, I found these two links re: centrino and wpa. Do they apply in
your case?

http://www.intel.com/support/noteboo...109-prd955.htm
http://www.intel.com/support/network...131-prd944.htm

Someone else has reported your problem (viz wrt54g crashing/hanging when
802.11b client is connecting to it with wpa turned on):

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...oogle%2BSearch

It seems Linksys can't even get their own suff working for 802.11b/wpa.
If you really want WPA badly, I suggest you get a 54G card and save your
hair, or whatever's left of it :-).


Jim Miller wrote:

> hi sammy
>
> i tried the "b-only" option. didn't make any difference at all. router still
> locked up.
>
> the first link below is from early indicating that wpa would be supported
> midyear. the second link is the announcement of the availability of the
> driver through oems. i downloaded that driver from dell before trying the
> wpa activity. no joy...
>
> tnx
> jtm
>
>
> "Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bmbi3f$qmd$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> One suggestion is to set the WRT54G to "B" mode only, and transmission
> rate to 11mbps and see what happens. This might eliminate possible bug
> in router logic that determines which standard to use.
>
> BTW, I found these two links re: centrino and wpa. Do they apply in
> your case?
>
> http://www.intel.com/support/noteboo...109-prd955.htm
> http://www.intel.com/support/network...131-prd944.htm
>
>

my only consolation is that the intel centrino (b only for now) thingy is
selling like hotcakes and they've put out their wpa client driver for it.
this makes me think that the b/wpa client side will eventually work since
intel and linksys put out a press release about their interoperability
testing:

http://www.linksys.com/press/press.a...130&cyear=2003

doesn't leave much of an option for a “Verified with Intel Centrino Mobile
Technology” sticker unless there's a caveat of "sorry no WPA".

tnx
jtm

"Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bmbkhr$1vv$(E-Mail Removed)...


Someone else has reported your problem (viz wrt54g crashing/hanging when
802.11b client is connecting to it with wpa turned on):

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...oogle%2BSearch

It seems Linksys can't even get their own suff working for 802.11b/wpa.
If you really want WPA badly, I suggest you get a 54G card and save your
hair, or whatever's left of it :-).


Jim Miller wrote:

> hi sammy
>
> i tried the "b-only" option. didn't make any difference at all. router
still
> locked up.
>
> the first link below is from early indicating that wpa would be supported
> midyear. the second link is the announcement of the availability of the
> driver through oems. i downloaded that driver from dell before trying the
> wpa activity. no joy...
>
> tnx
> jtm
>
>
> "Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bmbi3f$qmd$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> One suggestion is to set the WRT54G to "B" mode only, and transmission
> rate to 11mbps and see what happens. This might eliminate possible bug
> in router logic that determines which standard to use.
>
> BTW, I found these two links re: centrino and wpa. Do they apply in
> your case?
>
> http://www.intel.com/support/noteboo...109-prd955.htm
>
http://www.intel.com/support/network...131-prd944.htm
>
>

another "interesting" suggestion i get from tech support from dell or
linksys is: "try another card, try another accesspoint" as if i'm made of
money or have access points (and managerial accounts) everywhere.

seems like they need what we used to call a "plugfest" where the makers of
both ends get together and do some serious interoperability testing before
foisting this stuff on the public.

jtm


"Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bmbkhr$1vv$(E-Mail Removed)...


Someone else has reported your problem (viz wrt54g crashing/hanging when
802.11b client is connecting to it with wpa turned on):

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...oogle%2BSearch

It seems Linksys can't even get their own suff working for 802.11b/wpa.
If you really want WPA badly, I suggest you get a 54G card and save your
hair, or whatever's left of it :-).


Jim Miller wrote:

> hi sammy
>
> i tried the "b-only" option. didn't make any difference at all. router
still
> locked up.
>
> the first link below is from early indicating that wpa would be supported
> midyear. the second link is the announcement of the availability of the
> driver through oems. i downloaded that driver from dell before trying the
> wpa activity. no joy...
>
> tnx
> jtm
>
>
> "Sammy Heavyfoot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bmbi3f$qmd$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> One suggestion is to set the WRT54G to "B" mode only, and transmission
> rate to 11mbps and see what happens. This might eliminate possible bug
> in router logic that determines which standard to use.
>
> BTW, I found these two links re: centrino and wpa. Do they apply in
> your case?
>
> http://www.intel.com/support/noteboo...109-prd955.htm
>
http://www.intel.com/support/network...131-prd944.htm
>
>