Searching for a wireless solution for my research

OK ,
I need any info you guys can give me or direct me to the right place>

I am doing outdoor research and i constantly use my laptop to enter my
data.
I then need to wait until I am back to civilization to share my
findings with the rest of team for them to analize it.

I tell you this process is a pain.

NOw this being said...I need to find a way to be connected out there
in the woods so I can feed my data in real time with th rest of the
team which will cut in half the time lost in travelling back and
foward.
satelite/cell/radio...i dont care...i just need to find a wireless ISP
!!



Any ideals/solution??

Thx a million to anybody who answers
Sebastien

It would have helped if you said which particular 'neck of the woods' you
are lost in !
Your email is .ca, but that covers more then few sq. miles ;-o .
At a guess your only option is cellphone provider with GPRS or other data
service,
but you will have to find for yourself if there is anything available
wherever it is you are...
Regards,
Martin

Is anyone offering IPWireless in your area? See "IP Wireless modem" thread
in this newsgroup. One of the responders (Maxie P. Diddy) has this service
in Hawaii. Sounds like it might fit the bill for you. You'd still have to be
within a few miles of one of their base stations. That would also be true
for the much lower-rate GPRS cell solutions.

If you're really out in the boonies, have you considered packet radio? I
don't know much about it, but I do know that Linux has built-in support for
AX.25. It looks like the equipment is also affordable, in the hundreds of
dollars range - if you're willing to put up with bitrates around 9600. I'm
also not sure what kind of range you can expect. I think that depends on how
well the amateur network is spread around the areas you work in.

"seb" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> OK ,
> I need any info you guys can give me or direct me to the right place>
>
> I am doing outdoor research and i constantly use my laptop to enter my
> data.
> I then need to wait until I am back to civilization to share my
> findings with the rest of team for them to analize it.
>
> I tell you this process is a pain.
>
> NOw this being said...I need to find a way to be connected out there
> in the woods so I can feed my data in real time with th rest of the
> team which will cut in half the time lost in travelling back and
> foward.
> satelite/cell/radio...i dont care...i just need to find a wireless ISP
> !!
>
>
>
> Any ideals/solution??
>
> Thx a million to anybody who answers
> Sebastien

In article <tHttb.8742$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Martin² <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
:It would have helped if you said which particular 'neck of the woods' you
:are lost in !
:Your email is .ca, but that covers more then few sq. miles ;-o .
:At a guess your only option is cellphone provider with GPRS or other data
:service,
:but you will have to find for yourself if there is anything available
:wherever it is you are...

If the research area is accessible via Rogers' digital service,
then instead of GPRS, you can use your cell as a modem. You have
to ask Rogers to turn on the capability on your line, which it will
do at no charge. I have personally made connections this way
[using an infrared link from a Palm V to the cell phone even ;-) ]

I believe that Bell's digital services (MTS around here) also has
this capability; they did not happen to have phones with infrared at
the time I was looking, but I seem to recall that they did have ones
with hardwired support then.


Someone else mentioned packet radio. That's a good idea if you are
in range. You might have to get a license to use packet radio [but
I heard they don't make you learn Morse code these days to get the
packet license.]
--
I was very young in those days, but I was also rather dim.
-- Christopher Priest

I am soooooooooo sorry to forget such an important detail !
Doh!
I can be lost(like you say) anywhere in northern America(Canada/USA)
I really travel all over the place...
But i wouldn't mind if my connection was USA or canadian only.

If you guys need more specific info ...let me know.

I really appreciate your time writing to me.

Cheers all


SEB

That's a hard bill to fill. What is your research? Are you funded by a
government or industrial client?

If so, you should ask if you can get access to Iridium or Globestar. They
both offer anywhere-in-the-world access via low-earth-orbit satellites that
cover the globe. The idea is that at least 3 of these are visible at any
time, anywhere, so a strong signal will always be available. It's a kind of
satellite cell phone system. Downside is it's expensive, offers only 10kbps
maximum, requires an expensive, bulky handset, and is (I think) only offered
to government and industrial clients. See

http://www.satcomdirect.com/services_iridium_data.htm
http://www.comlabs.com/stdata.html

for more info.

There may be other satellite communication services offerering 2.4kbps, but
they will all be extremely expensive.

"seb" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> I am soooooooooo sorry to forget such an important detail !
> Doh!
> I can be lost(like you say) anywhere in northern America(Canada/USA)
> I really travel all over the place...
> But i wouldn't mind if my connection was USA or canadian only.
>
> If you guys need more specific info ...let me know.
>
> I really appreciate your time writing to me.
>
> Cheers all
>
>
> SEB

WOW thx Gary !!!,

This is the type of solution I was looking for
To anwser you question quickly... we are both Goverment and private
founding(wich is so fun because for the first time I am working with
more than a budjet 0 and we can actually get results faster ...haaaaa
the power of money
So those satelite phone are pretty big !!..I thought We would of
evoled out of the big into the small
Hey ! No more complaints here.....I am going to get direct connection
with the lab!!
Now that I know that I can get this....it would better if I can find a
CAnadian provider of that Satcom Direct Iridium service.You know how
it works...my boss will want to find a canadian company first.
I did not find much on my canadian side.....can I ask for one more
time for help? :P
P.s.:My boss told me that our budjet can cover up to 400$/month of
communication(data/voice)so i should be able to find something.

Cheers
SEB

In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
seb <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
:Satcom Direct Iridium service.

:P.s.:My boss told me that our budjet can cover up to 400$/month of
:communication(data/voice)so i should be able to find something.

That's probably $Cdn400, not $US400, right? Satellite phone service
costs something like $CDN10 or $CDN12 per minute, so $CDN400 is
probably not going to cover more than 1/2 hour per month. Including
handshaking. And you probably aren't going to be able to get more
than 1 Kbyte per minute through, I would estimate, so if your
volume is more than about 1 Mb per month you probably can't afford it.
--
Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million
typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare. -- Blair Houghton.

I'm afraid Walter is right about the cost. At this point, you'll have go
visit the websites and talk to the service providers to get detailed
information. I just can't think of any other alternative that would satisfy
your requirements, unless you're willing to spend the time and effort to
become expert at packet radio. And then, you have no guarantee that you will
be in range of a network.


"Walter Roberson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bp8dgl$1s2$(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
> seb <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> :Satcom Direct Iridium service.
>
> :P.s.:My boss told me that our budjet can cover up to 400$/month of
> :communication(data/voice)so i should be able to find something.
>
> That's probably $Cdn400, not $US400, right? Satellite phone service
> costs something like $CDN10 or $CDN12 per minute, so $CDN400 is
> probably not going to cover more than 1/2 hour per month. Including
> handshaking. And you probably aren't going to be able to get more
> than 1 Kbyte per minute through, I would estimate, so if your
> volume is more than about 1 Mb per month you probably can't afford it.
> --
> Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million
> typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare. -- Blair
Houghton.

In article <bp8dgl$1s2$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Walter Roberson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
:And you probably aren't going to be able to get more
:than 1 Kbyte per minute through, I would estimate,

Opps, I meant one Kbyte per second.

But if you are using the sat link as an *acoustic* modem, rather than
using any built-in digital transmission technologies, then you are
going to end up with migraines trying to keep the link going at
any reasonable speed. Unless, that is, you manage to find someone willing
to let you borrow some old Telebit Trailblazers. [I figure that
anyone who -still- has some of the TB's or TB+'s is unlikely to want
sell them, but they -might- deem your project to Be Worthy Enough to
lend them ;-) ]
--
*We* are now the times. -- Wim Wenders (WoD)