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Rick
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      01-20-2008, 03:00 PM
Windows XP OS. I have a wireless network setup that is working. In the
process of setting it up, the security key (WPA/AES) was changed. Now, when
connecting the wireless, the old key (apparently, because I can't actually
read it) automatically shows up and the new correct key must be entered each
time. What must be done to "save" the new, correct key so that it doesn't
have to be entered manually each time?


 
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      01-20-2008, 04:02 PM
Hi
Clean up all the Preferred networks entries in Windows Wireless Zero
Configuration (WZC).
Next time you log it would prompt again for the key and the entry would save
in the preference table with the new key.
http://www.ezlan.net/wireless/wzc3.jpg
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:A31BCBA5-B036-479E-89E3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Windows XP OS. I have a wireless network setup that is working. In the
> process of setting it up, the security key (WPA/AES) was changed. Now,
> when
> connecting the wireless, the old key (apparently, because I can't actually
> read it) automatically shows up and the new correct key must be entered
> each
> time. What must be done to "save" the new, correct key so that it doesn't
> have to be entered manually each time?
>
>


 
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      01-20-2008, 04:59 PM

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi
> Clean up all the Preferred networks entries in Windows Wireless Zero
> Configuration (WZC).

I thought there was simpler way. What exactly is WZC? Is it in the XP suite?


 
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      01-20-2008, 05:13 PM
"Suzy" <not@valid> wrote in message news:47938c1f$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>> Clean up all the Preferred networks entries in Windows Wireless Zero Configuration (WZC).

> I thought there was simpler way. What exactly is WZC? Is it in the XP suite?


Open Network connections.
Open properties of your wireless adapter and go to Wireless tab.
If your SSID is in the list at the bottom of that dialog (preferred networks) - delete it.
Click ok out of the dialogs. Now it should be gone.

Regards,
--PA


 
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      01-20-2008, 07:14 PM

"Pavel A." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Suzy" <not@valid> wrote in message news:47938c1f$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Hi
>>> Clean up all the Preferred networks entries in Windows Wireless Zero
>>> Configuration (WZC).

>> I thought there was simpler way. What exactly is WZC? Is it in the XP
>> suite?

>
> Open Network connections.
> Open properties of your wireless adapter and go to Wireless tab.
> If your SSID is in the list at the bottom of that dialog (preferred
> networks) - delete it.
> Click ok out of the dialogs. Now it should be gone.
>
> Regards,
> --PA
>

OK. Got that, but why?


 
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      01-20-2008, 08:18 PM
"Suzy" <not@valid> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
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> "Pavel A." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Suzy" <not@valid> wrote in message news:47938c1f$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Hi
>>>> Clean up all the Preferred networks entries in Windows Wireless Zero Configuration (WZC).
>>> I thought there was simpler way. What exactly is WZC? Is it in the XP suite?

>>
>> Open Network connections.
>> Open properties of your wireless adapter and go to Wireless tab.
>> If your SSID is in the list at the bottom of that dialog (preferred networks) - delete it.
>> Click ok out of the dialogs. Now it should be gone.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --PA
>>

> OK. Got that, but why?


Because we're doing the thing known as "troubleshooting".
In this, it's very important to begin from a known state.
Removing the configured SSID entries helps to achieve a known, clean state.

Regards,
--PA


 
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      01-20-2008, 11:30 PM
I have completed the steps below and get logged on to the wireless network
correctly. However, when the computer is turned off (or rebooted), the older
key is the one the system tries to use. It's like it really isn't deleted
during the "remove" process. I have even rebooted the computer after doing
the remove - same results.

Please note that I was incorrect about the security type - it is WEP.



"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> Clean up all the Preferred networks entries in Windows Wireless Zero
> Configuration (WZC).
> Next time you log it would prompt again for the key and the entry would save
> in the preference table with the new key.
> http://www.ezlan.net/wireless/wzc3.jpg
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:A31BCBA5-B036-479E-89E3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Windows XP OS. I have a wireless network setup that is working. In the
> > process of setting it up, the security key (WPA/AES) was changed. Now,
> > when
> > connecting the wireless, the old key (apparently, because I can't actually
> > read it) automatically shows up and the new correct key must be entered
> > each
> > time. What must be done to "save" the new, correct key so that it doesn't
> > have to be entered manually each time?
> >
> >

>


 
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      01-21-2008, 01:06 AM
Hi
First you should know that WEP is Not secure. If your hardware can do WPA,
or even better WPA-AES switch to them.
In any case WEP consists on passphrase that generate Hex string.
Try to erase whatever you have concerning WEP in the wireless computer.
Log to the Wireless Router and copy the actual WEP's Hex string.
Paste the Hex string into the Wireless computer instead of using a
passphrase.
http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#wep
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:71BE89AE-DA67-455A-BBA7-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have completed the steps below and get logged on to the wireless network
> correctly. However, when the computer is turned off (or rebooted), the
> older
> key is the one the system tries to use. It's like it really isn't deleted
> during the "remove" process. I have even rebooted the computer after doing
> the remove - same results.
>
> Please note that I was incorrect about the security type - it is WEP.
>
>
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Clean up all the Preferred networks entries in Windows Wireless Zero
>> Configuration (WZC).
>> Next time you log it would prompt again for the key and the entry would
>> save
>> in the preference table with the new key.
>> http://www.ezlan.net/wireless/wzc3.jpg
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:A31BCBA5-B036-479E-89E3-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Windows XP OS. I have a wireless network setup that is working. In the
>> > process of setting it up, the security key (WPA/AES) was changed. Now,
>> > when
>> > connecting the wireless, the old key (apparently, because I can't
>> > actually
>> > read it) automatically shows up and the new correct key must be entered
>> > each
>> > time. What must be done to "save" the new, correct key so that it
>> > doesn't
>> > have to be entered manually each time?
>> >
>> >

>>

>


 
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      01-21-2008, 03:21 AM
I am setting this up, by phone, for a customer who is quite rural, so
security is not really an issue. To get them to change to WPA is neither
time-effective or necessary.

Please read my previous posts again. The correct passphrase/hex key can be
entered and the wireless computer connects fine. However, when the system is
shut down, that correct passphrase/hex key is NOT remembered on restart.
Instead, a previous incorrect passphrase/hex key is remembered even when it
has been erased or removed. It is like the incorrect passphrase/hex key
cannot be truly deleted or replaced permanently by the correct one - it keeps
popping back up.

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> First you should know that WEP is Not secure. If your hardware can do WPA,
> or even better WPA-AES switch to them.
> In any case WEP consists on passphrase that generate Hex string.
> Try to erase whatever you have concerning WEP in the wireless computer.
> Log to the Wireless Router and copy the actual WEP's Hex string.
> Paste the Hex string into the Wireless computer instead of using a
> passphrase.
> http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#wep
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:71BE89AE-DA67-455A-BBA7-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have completed the steps below and get logged on to the wireless network
> > correctly. However, when the computer is turned off (or rebooted), the
> > older
> > key is the one the system tries to use. It's like it really isn't deleted
> > during the "remove" process. I have even rebooted the computer after doing
> > the remove - same results.
> >
> > Please note that I was incorrect about the security type - it is WEP.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >> Clean up all the Preferred networks entries in Windows Wireless Zero
> >> Configuration (WZC).
> >> Next time you log it would prompt again for the key and the entry would
> >> save
> >> in the preference table with the new key.
> >> http://www.ezlan.net/wireless/wzc3.jpg
> >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
> >>
> >> "Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:A31BCBA5-B036-479E-89E3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Windows XP OS. I have a wireless network setup that is working. In the
> >> > process of setting it up, the security key (WPA/AES) was changed. Now,
> >> > when
> >> > connecting the wireless, the old key (apparently, because I can't
> >> > actually
> >> > read it) automatically shows up and the new correct key must be entered
> >> > each
> >> > time. What must be done to "save" the new, correct key so that it
> >> > doesn't
> >> > have to be entered manually each time?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>

> >

>
>

 
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      01-21-2008, 04:04 AM
Hi
Yeah I understand, my suggestion is to skip the passphrase and only use the
Hex string.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ED92D54A-4DF0-4BC2-9EB0-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am setting this up, by phone, for a customer who is quite rural, so
> security is not really an issue. To get them to change to WPA is neither
> time-effective or necessary.
>
> Please read my previous posts again. The correct passphrase/hex key can be
> entered and the wireless computer connects fine. However, when the system
> is
> shut down, that correct passphrase/hex key is NOT remembered on restart.
> Instead, a previous incorrect passphrase/hex key is remembered even when
> it
> has been erased or removed. It is like the incorrect passphrase/hex key
> cannot be truly deleted or replaced permanently by the correct one - it
> keeps
> popping back up.
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> First you should know that WEP is Not secure. If your hardware can do
>> WPA,
>> or even better WPA-AES switch to them.
>> In any case WEP consists on passphrase that generate Hex string.
>> Try to erase whatever you have concerning WEP in the wireless computer.
>> Log to the Wireless Router and copy the actual WEP's Hex string.
>> Paste the Hex string into the Wireless computer instead of using a
>> passphrase.
>> http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#wep
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:71BE89AE-DA67-455A-BBA7-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I have completed the steps below and get logged on to the wireless
>> >network
>> > correctly. However, when the computer is turned off (or rebooted), the
>> > older
>> > key is the one the system tries to use. It's like it really isn't
>> > deleted
>> > during the "remove" process. I have even rebooted the computer after
>> > doing
>> > the remove - same results.
>> >
>> > Please note that I was incorrect about the security type - it is WEP.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi
>> >> Clean up all the Preferred networks entries in Windows Wireless Zero
>> >> Configuration (WZC).
>> >> Next time you log it would prompt again for the key and the entry
>> >> would
>> >> save
>> >> in the preference table with the new key.
>> >> http://www.ezlan.net/wireless/wzc3.jpg
>> >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>> >>
>> >> "Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:A31BCBA5-B036-479E-89E3-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Windows XP OS. I have a wireless network setup that is working. In
>> >> > the
>> >> > process of setting it up, the security key (WPA/AES) was changed.
>> >> > Now,
>> >> > when
>> >> > connecting the wireless, the old key (apparently, because I can't
>> >> > actually
>> >> > read it) automatically shows up and the new correct key must be
>> >> > entered
>> >> > each
>> >> > time. What must be done to "save" the new, correct key so that it
>> >> > doesn't
>> >> > have to be entered manually each time?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >

>>
>>


 
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