Satellite networking

Has anyone ever tried, or has ever thought about hosting a city block of
internet service from home using a Satellite provider and wireless
networking? I would like to know if it is legal or not in the U.S.? I was
thinking of purchasing an internet business account through Direct
Satellite, using 802.11g and running it out of my home. Any ideas to the
drawback of doing this? I am only talking about 20 or 30 accounts at the
most.

Have a look at the provider's "fair use policy" for starters.
Then, have a look at what total GB you're allowed to carry in a day
or month.

Then, have a look at what it would cost you in GB charges.
Then, after you've come to a conclusion that it would cost less to
share a single dialup with them all, with about the same net total
monthly traffic, think about some other strategy.

My .02 /mark


Rhoine wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever tried, or has ever thought about hosting a city block of
> internet service from home using a Satellite provider and wireless
> networking? I would like to know if it is legal or not in the U.S.? I was
> thinking of purchasing an internet business account through Direct
> Satellite, using 802.11g and running it out of my home. Any ideas to the
> drawback of doing this? I am only talking about 20 or 30 accounts at the
> most.

"Rhoine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:025yb.253738$9E1.1355596@attbi_s52...
> Has anyone ever tried, or has ever thought about hosting a city block of
> internet service from home using a Satellite provider and wireless
> networking? I would like to know if it is legal or not in the U.S.? I was
> thinking of purchasing an internet business account through Direct
> Satellite, using 802.11g and running it out of my home. Any ideas to the
> drawback of doing this? I am only talking about 20 or 30 accounts at the
> most.
>
>

Don't forget about the weather and it's effects on satellite internet,
thunderstorms and heavy rain can ruin your internet connection,
by stopping it all together or intermittent loss of internet connection.
Plus 802.11g would be real slow if it was shared by 20 or 30 users.

Craig

I used to sell Directway, it sucks. Like said earlier they have
limits on traffic. You can look into a buisness account but you
probably still would not be happy, neither would your customers. NOw
I know with Directway the only support windows, so that would mean you
would have to set up ICS (Internet connection sharing) It is a flakey
protocol MS puts in all their newers OSs. It would go down.

Another thing: LAG. Or in technically terms... latency. This means,
No VPNs and no Gameing. If all you cusomter did was heck email and
look at porn, then it would be ok.

If you can just get a dedicated Line like a higher speed of DSL. And
runa SOLID SOHO router off of it. A bandwidth controller should also
be considered.

Rhoine <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Has anyone ever tried, or has ever thought about hosting a city block of
> internet service from home using a Satellite provider and wireless
> networking? I would like to know if it is legal or not in the U.S.? I was
> thinking of purchasing an internet business account through Direct
> Satellite, using 802.11g and running it out of my home. Any ideas to the
> drawback of doing this? I am only talking about 20 or 30 accounts at the
> most.

Satellite internet is awful. It's only useful if you are out in the middle
of nowhere, or in a country where lower-to-the-ground high-speed internet is
not available.

The latency too substantial for many applications people would expect (VOIP,
gaming, etc.).

If you're going to share a connection, find a DSL ISP or T1 discounter that
will allow it. Otherwise you're just asking for a world of misery (and
disappointed users).

miguel
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Hundreds of travel photos from around the world: http://travel.u.nu/

I have a difernet response to this. I have been on Starband for over two
years. I cannot get any other offering even close to broadband, so I take
what I can get.

Miguel, I think you speak too broadly. Satellite providors have made a
substantial offering to those who truely have little hope of traditional
broadband. I use VoIP, and I do gaming as well as eBay on Starband. The
quality of the connection is a function of the installer doing his/her job
right. On a DTH vsat terminal, you have 2 watts on the outbound connection.
That's 2 watts of power to travel 22, 500+ miles into space.

Last week, here in Northern CA, We were faced with a significant winter
storm. at it's peak, I was doing 700kbps down and 130 kbps up. This is
rather atypical, but an interesting point to be made for the technology.
That being said, an hour later my dish was full of snow and my stellar
connection was lost until I went up on the roof with a broom.

On the average, I get 500 kbps down and 80 kbps up. Is that awful? Not if
dialup or ISDN is your only choice. Unfortuantely, that is a choice that
many people have to make in the U.S. Not everyone is close enough to a
properly equipped CO or on a 2-way cable system.

Please don't make unsubstantiated claims about technologies which are
helping rural users connect to the Internet.

Sierra


"Miguel Cruz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Rhoine <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > Has anyone ever tried, or has ever thought about hosting a city block of
> > internet service from home using a Satellite provider and wireless
> > networking? I would like to know if it is legal or not in the U.S.? I
was
> > thinking of purchasing an internet business account through Direct
> > Satellite, using 802.11g and running it out of my home. Any ideas to
the
> > drawback of doing this? I am only talking about 20 or 30 accounts at
the
> > most.
>
> Satellite internet is awful. It's only useful if you are out in the middle
> of nowhere, or in a country where lower-to-the-ground high-speed internet
is
> not available.
>
> The latency too substantial for many applications people would expect
(VOIP,
> gaming, etc.).
>
> If you're going to share a connection, find a DSL ISP or T1 discounter
that
> will allow it. Otherwise you're just asking for a world of misery (and
> disappointed users).
>
> miguel
> --
> Hundreds of travel photos from around the world: http://travel.u.nu/

Sierra Wireless <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>> Satellite internet is awful. It's only useful if you are out in the
>> middle of nowhere, or in a country where lower-to-the-ground high-speed
>> internet is not available.
>>
>> The latency too substantial for many applications people would expect
>> (VOIP, gaming, etc.).
>>
>> If you're going to share a connection, find a DSL ISP or T1 discounter
>> that will allow it. Otherwise you're just asking for a world of misery
>> (and disappointed users).
>
> Miguel, I think you speak too broadly. Satellite providors have made a
> substantial offering to those who truely have little hope of traditional
> broadband.

That's pretty much what I said (though your tone is more upbeat). But that
does not mean satellite is a good option for people who have other choices.

> Last week, here in Northern CA, We were faced with a significant winter
> storm. at it's peak, I was doing 700kbps down and 130 kbps up. This is
> rather atypical, but an interesting point to be made for the technology.

Well, there's really no limit to the bandwidth you can get over a satellite
link if you're willing to pay for it. The issue is latency, and no amount of
money or magic can fix that. This is the reason phone calls don't go over
satellite anymore (well, that and price) unless you're calling the poorest
of poor countries.

I remember living in Australia when a major transpacific cable got hooked
up. Overnight the quality of calls to the USA changed completely. Where
before it was all echoes and conversation-killing delays, suddenly it was
like a local call. Same deal (though admittedly less dramatic) with IP.

> Please don't make unsubstantiated claims about technologies which are
> helping rural users connect to the Internet.

I'm not sure which of my claims you're referring to as unsubstantiated. And
I'm not making any sort of judgment about rural users and their options. I'm
just warning him that using satellite will not provide the level of service
that his users would expect if they have been exposed to common low-latency
alternatives. If he has no other choice, great. But if he does, well...

miguel
--
Hundreds of travel photos from around the world: http://travel.u.nu/