Sam Knows Whitebox

http://www.samknows.eu/index.php/en/guides/installation

Anyone (else) applied for one?

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"Graham." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> http://www.samknows.eu/index.php/en/guides/installation
>
> Anyone (else) applied for one?

Yep

John

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:57:33 +0100, Graham. wrote:

> http://www.samknows.eu/index.php/en/guides/installation
>
> Anyone (else) applied for one?

Nope. I have one of these...

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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:27:45 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:57:33 +0100, Graham. wrote:
>
>> http://www.samknows.eu/index.php/en/guides/installation
>>
>> Anyone (else) applied for one?
>
> Nope. I have one of these...

Oops...I meant:

http://atlas.ripe.net/



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In article <j7ifdb$7p9$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Graham. wrote:
> http://www.samknows.eu/index.php/en/guides/installation
>
> Anyone (else) applied for one?

Quote from web page-
"We have designed the Whitebox so that it is quick and easy to install.
Take a look at the instructions and video below. Once your Whitebox is
plugged in we will send you an email so you can access your broadband
analytics".

I can't help wondering if the people who are at such a level of
ignorance that they need a video presentation to show them how to take
something out of its cardboard box would have any idea what "broadband
analytics" might mean.

Rod.
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In message <(E-Mail Removed) en.co.uk>,
Roderick Stewart <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>In article <j7ifdb$7p9$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>Graham. wrote:
>> http://www.samknows.eu/index.php/en/guides/installation
>>
>> Anyone (else) applied for one?
>
>Quote from web page-
>"We have designed the Whitebox so that it is quick and easy to install.
>Take a look at the instructions and video below. Once your Whitebox is
>plugged in we will send you an email so you can access your broadband
>analytics".
>
>I can't help wondering if the people who are at such a level of
>ignorance that they need a video presentation to show them how to take
>something out of its cardboard box would have any idea what "broadband
>analytics" might mean.
>
>Rod.
But the boxes are not really meant for the user - the analytics provided
are just a carrot to get the boxes onto as many BB links as possible, so
that the statistics collected are as representative as possible.

Actually strikes me as an example of decent sampling methodology design.
If you only got boxes to people who had sufficient competence with BB to
be able to do it unaided, then your sample would potentially be biased.
Those with the competence will be the same people who have tweaked their
internal wiring, removed the ring wire etc to maximise performance.That
will bias the results upwards.

Actually the graph lines from my box are so straight flat and boring I
have really stopped looking.
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> <(E-Mail Removed) en.co.uk>,
> Roderick Stewart <(E-Mail Removed)>
> writes
>>In article
>><j7ifdb$7p9$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>>Graham. wrote:
>>> http://www.samknows.eu/index.php/en/guides/installation
>>>
>>> Anyone (else) applied for one?
>>
>>Quote from web page-
>>"We have designed the Whitebox so that it is quick and easy to
>>install.
>>Take a look at the instructions and video below. Once your
>>Whitebox is
>>plugged in we will send you an email so you can access your
>>broadband
>>analytics".
>>
>>I can't help wondering if the people who are at such a level of
>>ignorance that they need a video presentation to show them how
>>to take
>>something out of its cardboard box would have any idea what
>>"broadband
>>analytics" might mean.
>>
>>Rod.
> But the boxes are not really meant for the user - the analytics
> provided are just a carrot to get the boxes onto as many BB
> links as possible, so that the statistics collected are as
> representative as possible.
>
> Actually strikes me as an example of decent sampling
> methodology design. If you only got boxes to people who had
> sufficient competence with BB to be able to do it unaided, then
> your sample would potentially be biased. Those with the
> competence will be the same people who have tweaked their
> internal wiring, removed the ring wire etc to maximise
> performance.That will bias the results upwards.
>
> Actually the graph lines from my box are so straight flat and
> boring I have really stopped looking.
> --
> Invalid



Did anyone notice the small print? The box downloads 3Gb and
uploads 1Gb per month!!!!

Can't help wondering what effect that will have on traffic
shaping and deep packet inspection?



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"Woody" <(E-Mail Removed)> considered Tue, 18 Oct 2011
20:08:58 +0100 the perfect time to write:

>"Invalid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> In message
>> <(E-Mail Removed) en.co.uk>,
>> Roderick Stewart <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> writes
>>>In article
>>><j7ifdb$7p9$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>>>Graham. wrote:
>>>> http://www.samknows.eu/index.php/en/guides/installation
>>>>
>>>> Anyone (else) applied for one?
>>>
>>>Quote from web page-
>>>"We have designed the Whitebox so that it is quick and easy to
>>>install.
>>>Take a look at the instructions and video below. Once your
>>>Whitebox is
>>>plugged in we will send you an email so you can access your
>>>broadband
>>>analytics".
>>>
>>>I can't help wondering if the people who are at such a level of
>>>ignorance that they need a video presentation to show them how
>>>to take
>>>something out of its cardboard box would have any idea what
>>>"broadband
>>>analytics" might mean.
>>>
>>>Rod.
>> But the boxes are not really meant for the user - the analytics
>> provided are just a carrot to get the boxes onto as many BB
>> links as possible, so that the statistics collected are as
>> representative as possible.
>>
>> Actually strikes me as an example of decent sampling
>> methodology design. If you only got boxes to people who had
>> sufficient competence with BB to be able to do it unaided, then
>> your sample would potentially be biased. Those with the
>> competence will be the same people who have tweaked their
>> internal wiring, removed the ring wire etc to maximise
>> performance.That will bias the results upwards.
>>
>> Actually the graph lines from my box are so straight flat and
>> boring I have really stopped looking.
>> --
>> Invalid
>
>
>
>Did anyone notice the small print? The box downloads 3Gb and
>uploads 1Gb per month!!!!
>
>Can't help wondering what effect that will have on traffic
>shaping and deep packet inspection?

That's only 3% of my monthly allowance, and if it's getting tight at
the end of the month (only ever happened once) I can turn it off for a
while.

Bob Eager <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Oops...I meant:
>
> http://atlas.ripe.net/

Interesting. Do you get any kind of useful stats displayed from your
personal probe (via their graphing website) other than just the 'up since'
graph they display on their google map?

Theo

Theo Markettos wrote:
> Bob Eager<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Oops...I meant:
>>
>> http://atlas.ripe.net/
>
> Interesting. Do you get any kind of useful stats displayed from your
> personal probe (via their graphing website) other than just the 'up since'
> graph they display on their google map?

I can't see the point of this.

We already know that the performance of ADSL depends on line length,
line quality, and the quality (or otherwise) of the wiring at the
customer's premises.

If you want to make an improvement that is potentially available to
everybody, you have to install a system which is designed from scratch
to meet a sensible specification.

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