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Gray McCordq
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      01-18-2005, 03:00 AM
I'm stumped. I have a small network with a single w2K3 domain
controller. Something has happened that is causing file transfers to
be so slow That it takes 2-3 hours to move a file between the server
and networked systems (all winXP) that normally takes 5-10 minutes.
Does anyone have any ideas what could be causing This?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Todd J Heron
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      01-18-2005, 03:03 PM
The problem may be SMB signing or LAN Manager authentication level. In
Windows 2003, default server policy forces all SMB traffic to be digitally
signed which seems to cause a problem in some configurations of XP Pro. In
Local Security Policy (Start > Run > secpol.msc > OK) navigate to security
options (Security settings > Local policies > Security) and try disabling
the option for Microsoft network server:digitally sign
communications(always). Ensure you do this on all machines involved (such
as via a GPO for an OU). Run gpupdate /force on the server after making the
change and do the same on the client machine afterwards.

Security settings that can cause a problem with downlevel client access:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...5BLN%5D;811497
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;823659

See also:
Slow SMB performance when you copy files from Windows XP to a Windows 2000
domain controller:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=321169

Another possibility involving slowness between XP and Windows Server 2003
computers:
New registry entry for controlling the TCP Acknowledgment (ACK) behavior in
Windows XP and in Windows Server 2003:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=328890

Also, within an Ethernet network, all network adapters must transmit at the
same speed (i.e. 100/mbs, full duplex) and be connected to a hub/switch
which supports that speed of the network adapters, or otherwise network
communications will be slow and/or unreliable. The network adapters must
also be configured to support the cable type being used.


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Gray McCordq
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      01-18-2005, 10:05 PM
Todd J Heron wrote:
> The problem may be SMB signing or LAN Manager authentication level. In
> Windows 2003, default server policy forces all SMB traffic to be digitally
> signed which seems to cause a problem in some configurations of XP Pro. In
> Local Security Policy (Start > Run > secpol.msc > OK) navigate to security
> options (Security settings > Local policies > Security) and try disabling
> the option for Microsoft network server:digitally sign
> communications(always). Ensure you do this on all machines involved (such
> as via a GPO for an OU). Run gpupdate /force on the server after making the
> change and do the same on the client machine afterwards.
>
> Security settings that can cause a problem with downlevel client access:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...5BLN%5D;811497
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;823659
>
> See also:
> Slow SMB performance when you copy files from Windows XP to a Windows 2000
> domain controller:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=321169
>
> Another possibility involving slowness between XP and Windows Server 2003
> computers:
> New registry entry for controlling the TCP Acknowledgment (ACK) behavior in
> Windows XP and in Windows Server 2003:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=328890
>
> Also, within an Ethernet network, all network adapters must transmit at the
> same speed (i.e. 100/mbs, full duplex) and be connected to a hub/switch
> which supports that speed of the network adapters, or otherwise network
> communications will be slow and/or unreliable. The network adapters must
> also be configured to support the cable type being used.
>
>

Thanks, Todd-I'll give this a look!
 
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Gray McCord
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      01-19-2005, 12:26 PM
Todd J Heron wrote:
> The problem may be SMB signing or LAN Manager authentication level. In
> Windows 2003, default server policy forces all SMB traffic to be digitally
> signed which seems to cause a problem in some configurations of XP Pro. In
> Local Security Policy (Start > Run > secpol.msc > OK) navigate to security
> options (Security settings > Local policies > Security) and try disabling
> the option for Microsoft network server:digitally sign
> communications(always). Ensure you do this on all machines involved (such
> as via a GPO for an OU). Run gpupdate /force on the server after making the
> change and do the same on the client machine afterwards.
>
> Security settings that can cause a problem with downlevel client access:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...5BLN%5D;811497
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;823659
>
> See also:
> Slow SMB performance when you copy files from Windows XP to a Windows 2000
> domain controller:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=321169
>
> Another possibility involving slowness between XP and Windows Server 2003
> computers:
> New registry entry for controlling the TCP Acknowledgment (ACK) behavior in
> Windows XP and in Windows Server 2003:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=328890
>
> Also, within an Ethernet network, all network adapters must transmit at the
> same speed (i.e. 100/mbs, full duplex) and be connected to a hub/switch
> which supports that speed of the network adapters, or otherwise network
> communications will be slow and/or unreliable. The network adapters must
> also be configured to support the cable type being used.
>
>

Thanks, Todd. I did give this a try and have had no luck. When I tried
to change the security signing setting, it was grayed-out. I found it
in the registry and changed it there, but no change. I have two 2K3
servers on my network, and the other one seems to work just fine. Its a
very small network (<5 clients), so I have the two servers acting as
DC's / DNS's / WINS with the problematic one also acting as a file
server. The other 2K3 server, if I configure a share, does not have
this problem at all. I can copy a directory from one server to a XPSP2
client and it takes 2 minutes. From the other server, it takes 2 hours.
I ran the network monitor and did notice that network utilization was
running at less than 5%, typically 1-2%, and on those occasions when
performance is reasonable, it will run closer to 30%.

The only thing I can find in the server logs is on the second DC, where
I am seeing hourly error 8032 / 8021 browser errors and "29" W32time
errors. (I assume poor network performance could cause this....)
Absolutely nothing in the logs of the offending server. It seems very
happy.

I have tried multiple NICs, so it isn't that, and the switch is the same
one that the other server & the client use, so its not that. I'm about
to give that server a "Windows Enema" (reformat / reinstall), but if
there's anything else you can think to try first, I'm open!

Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.

Gray
 
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Derek
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      01-21-2005, 08:54 PM
I am experiencing the same issue however I have Wink2 clients performing
poorly to a 2003 file server.


"Gray McCord" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Todd J Heron wrote:
>> The problem may be SMB signing or LAN Manager authentication level. In
>> Windows 2003, default server policy forces all SMB traffic to be
>> digitally signed which seems to cause a problem in some configurations of
>> XP Pro. In Local Security Policy (Start > Run > secpol.msc > OK)
>> navigate to security options (Security settings > Local policies >
>> Security) and try disabling the option for Microsoft network
>> server:digitally sign communications(always). Ensure you do this on all
>> machines involved (such as via a GPO for an OU). Run gpupdate /force on
>> the server after making the change and do the same on the client machine
>> afterwards.
>>
>> Security settings that can cause a problem with downlevel client access:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...5BLN%5D;811497
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;823659
>>
>> See also:
>> Slow SMB performance when you copy files from Windows XP to a Windows
>> 2000 domain controller:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=321169
>>
>> Another possibility involving slowness between XP and Windows Server
>> 2003 computers:
>> New registry entry for controlling the TCP Acknowledgment (ACK) behavior
>> in Windows XP and in Windows Server 2003:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=328890
>>
>> Also, within an Ethernet network, all network adapters must transmit at
>> the same speed (i.e. 100/mbs, full duplex) and be connected to a
>> hub/switch which supports that speed of the network adapters, or
>> otherwise network communications will be slow and/or unreliable. The
>> network adapters must also be configured to support the cable type being
>> used.
>>
>>

> Thanks, Todd. I did give this a try and have had no luck. When I tried
> to change the security signing setting, it was grayed-out. I found it in
> the registry and changed it there, but no change. I have two 2K3 servers
> on my network, and the other one seems to work just fine. Its a very
> small network (<5 clients), so I have the two servers acting as DC's /
> DNS's / WINS with the problematic one also acting as a file server. The
> other 2K3 server, if I configure a share, does not have this problem at
> all. I can copy a directory from one server to a XPSP2 client and it
> takes 2 minutes. From the other server, it takes 2 hours. I ran the
> network monitor and did notice that network utilization was running at
> less than 5%, typically 1-2%, and on those occasions when performance is
> reasonable, it will run closer to 30%.
>
> The only thing I can find in the server logs is on the second DC, where I
> am seeing hourly error 8032 / 8021 browser errors and "29" W32time errors.
> (I assume poor network performance could cause this....) Absolutely
> nothing in the logs of the offending server. It seems very happy.
>
> I have tried multiple NICs, so it isn't that, and the switch is the same
> one that the other server & the client use, so its not that. I'm about to
> give that server a "Windows Enema" (reformat / reinstall), but if there's
> anything else you can think to try first, I'm open!
>
> Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.
>
> Gray



 
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