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quickcur@yahoo.com
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      07-16-2006, 03:39 PM
I run Apache on my home PC which is behind a Netgear router. It gets
dynamic IP address from Comcast. I would like to visit the web server
from outside. I went to dyndns.org and registered an account
"mydomin.dyndns.org". I also did port-forwarding (port 80 for http) on
my router. But I can not "ping" or visit my web server from outside
with browser.

I do not think my isp is blocking port 80 because if I do not use the
router, I can visit the web server from outside.

What did I do wrong?

Thanks

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Kristofer Gafvert
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      07-16-2006, 03:53 PM
Hello,

You most likely did not properly configure the router, since that is what
is failing (it works without the router). This means that it cannot be a
DNS issue, and it certainly cannot be an IIS issue (is IIS even involved
in this?).

If you are sure you have properly configured the router, do you really use
a machine outside the router? If not, perhaps your router does not support
loop-back?



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>I run Apache on my home PC which is behind a Netgear router. It gets
>dynamic IP address from Comcast. I would like to visit the web server
>from outside. I went to dyndns.org and registered an account
>"mydomin.dyndns.org". I also did port-forwarding (port 80 for http) on
>my router. But I can not "ping" or visit my web server from outside
>with browser.
>
>I do not think my isp is blocking port 80 because if I do not use the
>router, I can visit the web server from outside.
>
>What did I do wrong?
>
>Thanks
>
>qq

 
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Larry Finger
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      07-16-2006, 04:53 PM
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I run Apache on my home PC which is behind a Netgear router. It gets
> dynamic IP address from Comcast. I would like to visit the web server
> from outside. I went to dyndns.org and registered an account
> "mydomin.dyndns.org". I also did port-forwarding (port 80 for http) on
> my router. But I can not "ping" or visit my web server from outside
> with browser.
>
> I do not think my isp is blocking port 80 because if I do not use the
> router, I can visit the web server from outside.


Which Netgear router? Is your firmware up to date? The router firmware or configuration seems to be
the problem.

I have a similar setup with my Linksys WRT54G router connected to Time Warner Roadrunner service. On
one of my internal machines I run a subversion server for the sources in a couple of program
projects that I host. I also have a registered a domain name with DynDNS.com. The only thing I had
to worry about is that I have 3 other computers behind the NAT router and I use DHCP for them. To
ensure a constant IP address for the SVN server, I assigned a fixed IP address outside the dynamic
range. This way the server always has the same internal address for router forwarding of the SVN
packets.

Larry

 
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      07-16-2006, 07:00 PM
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I run Apache on my home PC which is behind a Netgear router. It gets
> dynamic IP address from Comcast. I would like to visit the web server
> from outside. I went to dyndns.org and registered an account
> "mydomin.dyndns.org". I also did port-forwarding (port 80 for http) on
> my router. But I can not "ping" or visit my web server from outside
> with browser.
>
> I do not think my isp is blocking port 80 because if I do not use the
> router, I can visit the web server from outside.
>
> What did I do wrong?
>
> Thanks
>
> qq
>


Ping is a different port and probably blocked by your isp as well as
your router.

If You can reach the web page from outside with out the router you have
'nt got the forwarding right in the router. FYI your router may be
blocking the returned info from your website to the outide world.
 
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      07-16-2006, 08:01 PM
Thanks for your emails.

Here is my router config from http://192.168.1.1/start.htm

# Service Name, Start Port, End Port, Server IP Address
1 AIM 5190 5190 192.168.1.2
2 HTTP 80 80 192.168.1.2

I do not know what else I should do.

 
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Kevin Goodknecht [MVP]
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      07-16-2006, 09:34 PM
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> Thanks for your emails.
>
> Here is my router config from http://192.168.1.1/start.htm
>
> # Service Name, Start Port, End Port, Server IP Address
> 1 AIM 5190 5190 192.168.1.2
> 2 HTTP 80 80 192.168.1.2
>
> I do not know what else I should do.


Get rid of the router and install Windows 2000 server as a stand-alone on an
old 500mhz box, with two NICs and configure RRAS as a router. and RAS and
configure inbound and outbound packet filters. You'll need to spend some big
bucks to get the same features in a store bought router.

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      07-16-2006, 11:42 PM
Kevin Goodknecht [MVP] wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> Thanks for your emails.
>>
>> Here is my router config from http://192.168.1.1/start.htm
>>
>> # Service Name, Start Port, End Port, Server IP Address
>> 1 AIM 5190 5190 192.168.1.2
>> 2 HTTP 80 80 192.168.1.2
>>
>> I do not know what else I should do.

>
> Get rid of the router and install Windows 2000 server as a stand-alone on an
> old 500mhz box, with two NICs and configure RRAS as a router. and RAS and
> configure inbound and outbound packet filters. You'll need to spend some big
> bucks to get the same features in a store bought router.
>


I do this with a $70 Linksys WRT54G, which takes a whole lot less electricity that any old 500 MHz
box, didn't cost me a Windows 2K license, and has never given me a BSOD! In addition, it is a
wireless AP.

Larry
 
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      07-17-2006, 09:41 PM
I am looking myself for an ISP which allows me to run my own servers,
including a web server, of course, on my own computer. Out of curiosity
I checked COMCAST's terms of service. COMCAST hides the terms quite
well. Anyway, they offer the same kind of sickening service like COX
and VERIZON do. Have a closer look at section 14.

http://www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp

Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using the Service,
Customer Equipment, or the Comcast Equipment to:
....
run programs, equipment, or servers from the Premises that provide
network content or any other services to anyone outside of your
Premises LAN (Local Area Network), also commonly referred to as public
services or servers. Examples of prohibited services and servers
include, but are not limited to, e-mail, Web hosting, file sharing, and
proxy services and servers;
....

To me, it does not matter whether an ISP limits my Internet access or
the Chinese government. Welcome to the not-so-free Internet in the USA!

I also found the following introduction quite interesting. Loan-sharks
have better terms!

Important Note: Comcast may revise this Acceptable Use Policy (the
"Policy") from time to time without notice by posting a new version of
this document on the Comcast Web site at http://www.comcast.net (or any
successor URL(s)). All revised copies of the Policy are effective
immediately upon posting. Accordingly, customers and users of the
Comcast High-Speed Internet Service should regularly visit our web site
and review this Policy to ensure that their activities conform to the
most recent version. In the event of a conflict between any subscriber
or customer agreement and this Policy, the terms of this Policy will
govern. Questions regarding this Policy and complaints of violations of
it by Comcast customers and users can be directed to
http://www.comcast.net/help/contact/.

 
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William P.N. Smith
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      07-17-2006, 10:12 PM
"biggerdigger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>To me, it does not matter whether an ISP limits my Internet access or
>the Chinese government. Welcome to the not-so-free Internet in the USA!


I get Verison Fios for business, 5 static IPs, 5M/2M, and all the
servers I want for $100/month. No-one is limiting anything, but you
gotta pay more if you want something more than consumer service.

[Note, the requirement to pay more money for a better class of service
doesn't count as a 'limitation' or an infringement on your civil
rights.]
 
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Dave
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      07-17-2006, 10:27 PM
where can i get that $100/mo service????

"William P.N. Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "biggerdigger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>To me, it does not matter whether an ISP limits my Internet access or
>>the Chinese government. Welcome to the not-so-free Internet in the USA!

>
> I get Verison Fios for business, 5 static IPs, 5M/2M, and all the
> servers I want for $100/month. No-one is limiting anything, but you
> gotta pay more if you want something more than consumer service.
>
> [Note, the requirement to pay more money for a better class of service
> doesn't count as a 'limitation' or an infringement on your civil
> rights.]



 
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