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Bill
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      10-07-2008, 04:08 PM
I have a standard 2 nic setup of SBS 2003 ( no isa yet).
I have another serverA on the Wan side of SBS that needs to see the subnet
of SBS.

Router 192.168.1.254
ServerA 192.168.1.65 SBS Wan side 192.168.1.70
SBS Lan side 192.168.14.1

I need ServerA to be able to connect to 192.168.14.x
How should I set that up?
Thanks
Bill
 
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      10-07-2008, 06:19 PM
You may want to enable inbound connections using NAT. This how to may help.

NAT and FirewallTo connect a windows 2000/2003 network to the Internet, you
may use one of two methods: ICS and NAT. Both ICS and NAT provide
translation, addressing, ...
www.chicagotech.net/nat.htm


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"Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a standard 2 nic setup of SBS 2003 ( no isa yet).
> I have another serverA on the Wan side of SBS that needs to see the subnet
> of SBS.
>
> Router 192.168.1.254
> ServerA 192.168.1.65 SBS Wan side 192.168.1.70
> SBS Lan side 192.168.14.1
>
> I need ServerA to be able to connect to 192.168.14.x
> How should I set that up?
> Thanks
> Bill


 
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Phillip Windell
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      10-07-2008, 07:11 PM
"Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a standard 2 nic setup of SBS 2003 ( no isa yet).
> I have another serverA on the Wan side of SBS that needs to see the subnet
> of SBS.
>
> Router 192.168.1.254
> ServerA 192.168.1.65 SBS Wan side 192.168.1.70
> SBS Lan side 192.168.14.1
>
> I need ServerA to be able to connect to 192.168.14.x


That depends on *how* is has to connect and *what* it is actually doing.
Reverse NAT may be what you need (as Robert was describing), or you may need
to operate the SBS box as a "router",...that is, a "real" router,...that
actually "routes",...not a NAT box. This could heavily effect your ability
or the complexity of running ISA on the SBS.

Keep in mind that with SBS you can only run ISA on it if this is the SBS
Premium and you use the ISA that is already on the SBS Installation Disks.
You cannot use a "stand alone" purchase of ISA server. ISA2006 cannot be
used on SBS at all.

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Bill
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      10-07-2008, 09:26 PM
The goal is for Server_A to be able to ping any machine inside the lan side
of SBS ie 192.168.14.x

If I can do that then my applications on Server_A will be able to reach the
devices they need.

Bill

> That depends on *how* is has to connect and *what* it is actually doing.
> Reverse NAT may be what you need (as Robert was describing), or you may need
> to operate the SBS box as a "router",...that is, a "real" router,...that
> actually "routes",...not a NAT box. This could heavily effect your ability
> or the complexity of running ISA on the SBS.
>
> Keep in mind that with SBS you can only run ISA on it if this is the SBS
> Premium and you use the ISA that is already on the SBS Installation Disks.
> You cannot use a "stand alone" purchase of ISA server. ISA2006 cannot be
> used on SBS at all.
>
> --
> Phillip Windell
> www.wandtv.com
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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>
>
>

 
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Juergen Kluth
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      10-08-2008, 11:27 AM
Hi,
if you are able to ping your sbs from server a
-if not there might be a need for your router setup (switch/vlan or else)
you need routing on your sbs enabled.
with permanent (?) routes for the wan side and lan side networks.
jk


 
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Bill
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      10-08-2008, 02:23 PM
Thanks for the suggestions.

The answer was ridiculously simply - it was a 'doh' moment.
My ServerA also has 2 nics so I just plugged in the unused #2 to the switch
and it got Lan DHCP from the other server

Bill

"Juergen Kluth" wrote:

> Hi,
> if you are able to ping your sbs from server a
> -if not there might be a need for your router setup (switch/vlan or else)
> you need routing on your sbs enabled.
> with permanent (?) routes for the wan side and lan side networks.
> jk
>
>
>

 
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Phillip Windell
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      10-08-2008, 09:43 PM
"Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The goal is for Server_A to be able to ping any machine inside the lan
> side
> of SBS ie 192.168.14.x
>
> If I can do that then my applications on Server_A will be able to reach
> the
> devices they need.


Then it will need to have RRAS configured to operate as a LAN Router (*not*
NAT). You will probably not what to attempt ISA in this configuration on
SBS. It is probably "possible" to run ISA on SBS this way, but I suspect it
to be filled with "issues" and you may have a hard time finding anyone who
can help you with ISA in that kind of situaiton.

You would probably have to uninstall RRAS,..then reinstall RRAS,...leave
RRAS "unconfigured",...then install ISA from the SBS disks. From there the
"to do" list may grow even more,..I can't help you at that point since this
is SBS.

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