Router to Router? Won't work.

Can I go Router to Router? As in:



Modem
|
Router
|
|---------|----------|
Comp. Comp. Router
|
|
|---------|----------|
Comp. Comp. Comp.

The second router is plugged into the first. When I've tried this
using a D-Link DI-704P as the first router and an Inexq router as the
second I cannot setup the second router. The computer on the second
router did have internet access, but the mouse was no longer
recognized. That occured on two different computers.


Any ideas?



----------------------------------------------
Brian Howe
------------
Information is power.
Thanks to all who empower me
----------------------------------------------

You can but the configuration is a hassle in the programming of the routers.
I would recommend going from a router to a switch or a hub.

"Brian" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Can I go Router to Router? As in:
>
>
>
> Modem
> |
> Router
> |
> |---------|----------|
> Comp. Comp. Router
> |
> |
> |---------|----------|
> Comp. Comp. Comp.
>
> The second router is plugged into the first. When I've tried this
> using a D-Link DI-704P as the first router and an Inexq router as the
> second I cannot setup the second router. The computer on the second
> router did have internet access, but the mouse was no longer
> recognized. That occured on two different computers.
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> Brian Howe
> ------------
> Information is power.
> Thanks to all who empower me
> ----------------------------------------------

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Brian
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Can I go Router to Router? As in:
>
>
>
> Modem
> |
> Router
> |
> |---------|----------|
> Comp. Comp. Router
> |
> |
> |---------|----------|
> Comp. Comp. Comp.
>
>The second router is plugged into the first. When I've tried this
>using a D-Link DI-704P as the first router and an Inexq router as the
>second I cannot setup the second router. The computer on the second
>router did have internet access, but the mouse was no longer
>recognized. That occured on two different computers.
>
>
>Any ideas?

Does the mouse work if you disconnect the computers from the router?
If so, check for resource conflicts involving their network adapters.

What do you mean by "cannot setup the second router"? How are you
trying to do it, and what exactly happens when you do it? Since you
say that the computer on the second router has Internet access, I'd
say that the second router is working fine.

Using two routers in this way prevents computers connected to the
first router from accessing computers connected to the second router.
However, computers connected to the second router CAN access computers
connected to the first router.

If it would be OK to have all of the computers on both routers access
all of the other computers, you can simplify your network setup by
bypassing the second router's routing capabilities and using it as a
network switch only:

1. Connect the first router to an uplink LAN port on the second
router, not to the second router's WAN (Internet) port.

2. Disable the second router's built-in DHCP server.
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:28:18 -0700, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Does the mouse work if you disconnect the computers from the router?
>If so, check for resource conflicts involving their network adapters.

It does. But read on...

>What do you mean by "cannot setup the second router"? How are you
>trying to do it, and what exactly happens when you do it? Since you
>say that the computer on the second router has Internet access, I'd
>say that the second router is working fine.

It was working in one way, but like you said, I could not see the
other machines. But read on...

>Using two routers in this way prevents computers connected to the
>first router from accessing computers connected to the second router.
>However, computers connected to the second router CAN access computers
>connected to the first router.

Right. But read on...

>If it would be OK to have all of the computers on both routers access
>all of the other computers, you can simplify your network setup by
>bypassing the second router's routing capabilities and using it as a
>network switch only:
>
>1. Connect the first router to an uplink LAN port on the second
>router, not to the second router's WAN (Internet) port.

BINGO! That was my mistake. I was using the WAN port instead of just
using the LAN ports. As soon as I moved it over and rebooted,
CHA-CHING...it worked perfectly!!!!

>2. Disable the second router's built-in DHCP server.

I cannot access the 2nd routers settings to make this change, but all
is presently working fine, so I am assuming it is off from my last
attempt (I know I turned it off then.


Steve, you're great, thanks ever so much. You made my day with this
fix.

Do have a Merry Christmas and all the best of the season to you and
your family.


----------------------------------------------
Brian Howe
------------
Information is power.
Thanks to all who empower me
----------------------------------------------

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Brian
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:28:18 -0700, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Does the mouse work if you disconnect the computers from the router?
>>If so, check for resource conflicts involving their network adapters.
>
>It does. But read on...
>
>>What do you mean by "cannot setup the second router"? How are you
>>trying to do it, and what exactly happens when you do it? Since you
>>say that the computer on the second router has Internet access, I'd
>>say that the second router is working fine.
>
>It was working in one way, but like you said, I could not see the
>other machines. But read on...
>
>>Using two routers in this way prevents computers connected to the
>>first router from accessing computers connected to the second router.
>>However, computers connected to the second router CAN access computers
>>connected to the first router.
>
>Right. But read on...
>
>>If it would be OK to have all of the computers on both routers access
>>all of the other computers, you can simplify your network setup by
>>bypassing the second router's routing capabilities and using it as a
>>network switch only:
>>
>>1. Connect the first router to an uplink LAN port on the second
>>router, not to the second router's WAN (Internet) port.
>
>BINGO! That was my mistake. I was using the WAN port instead of just
>using the LAN ports. As soon as I moved it over and rebooted,
>CHA-CHING...it worked perfectly!!!!
>
>>2. Disable the second router's built-in DHCP server.
>
>I cannot access the 2nd routers settings to make this change, but all
>is presently working fine, so I am assuming it is off from my last
>attempt (I know I turned it off then.
>
>
>Steve, you're great, thanks ever so much. You made my day with this
>fix.
>
>Do have a Merry Christmas and all the best of the season to you and
>your family.

You're welcome, Brian. I'm glad that my suggestion helped you get
things working. Merry Christmas to you and yours, too.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Brian wrote:

> Can I go Router to Router? As in:
>
>
>
> Modem
> |
> Router
> |
> |---------|----------|
> Comp. Comp. Router
> |
> |
> |---------|----------|
> Comp. Comp. Comp.
>
> The second router is plugged into the first. When I've tried this
> using a D-Link DI-704P as the first router and an Inexq router as the
> second I cannot setup the second router. The computer on the second
> router did have internet access, but the mouse was no longer
> recognized. That occured on two different computers.
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> Brian Howe
> ------------
> Information is power.
> Thanks to all who empower me
> ----------------------------------------------

That can be done, but it's probably a bit silly (unless you really
know what you're doing and have a specific need for that kind of
arrangement), and getting it to work requires that you set all
the masks and IP addresses (or DHCP servers) up so that everything
can talk. You'd be better off replacing the second router with a
cheap switch; it would save the hassle of trying to deal with two
cascaded routers.

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concluded we must conceal our e-mail address. Our true address is the
mirror image of what you see before the "@" symbol. It's a shame such
steps are necessary. ...Charlie

What you have can work, but set up your 2nd router as a
vridge and assign it a static IP. Leave the rest of the
functionality intact.
>-----Original Message-----
>Can I go Router to Router? As in:
>
>
>
> Modem
> |
> Router
> |
> |---------|----------|
> Comp. Comp. Router
> |
> |
> |---------|----------|
> Comp. Comp. Comp.
>
>The second router is plugged into the first. When I've
tried this
>using a D-Link DI-704P as the first router and an Inexq
router as the
>second I cannot setup the second router. The computer on
the second
>router did have internet access, but the mouse was no
longer
>recognized. That occured on two different computers.
>
>
>Any ideas?
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------
>Brian Howe
>------------
>Information is power.
>Thanks to all who empower me
>----------------------------------------------
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