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David
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      08-30-2005, 03:43 PM
Hi,


We are a small company (6 users) and we have a PBX here that can do VoIP. My
boss would like to be able to work from home and have incoming calls
transferred to an IP phone next to him.

At my home I have a test server running Windows 2003 SP1. Using RRAS (pptp)
I created between mine and the company's server a demand dial connection.
Once I hooked up the IP phones to my server I could do anything like I could
when connected directly to the PBX.
My boss however doesn't have a server running at his home, and he doesn't
plan on installing one there. He has a simple Dlink WiFi router. Now I was
wondering if there are any cheap (dlink, linksys,...) routers out there that
can both initiate & terminate incoming/outgoing router-to-router VPN's
from/to RRAS. I looked on both manufacturer's website but didn't find one
that could do both at the same time.
Since we have a sonicwall sitting between our LAN & the ISP's router I
thought I could configure an IPSec R2R VPN (using the same type at his home)
there. However I couldn't get it to work. I could get it to work when I
plugged the ISP's network cable directly in our company's sonicwall (so it
got a public IP, not one in the DMZ). I read something that said IPSec can't
traverse NAT and thats probably why it didn't work when the sonicwall was
sitting in the DMZ. Unfortunately connecting the sonicwall directly to the
internet is not an acceptable permanent solution, we need a DMZ.

If possible I would like to be able to connect his IP phone using a XO cable
to his LAN port, and have his laptop connect using WiFi. If not, we would
need to move the router closer because of cable length.


regards,

David


 
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Patrick Kremer
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      08-30-2005, 06:19 PM
Try a WRT54G with Sveasoft's firmware

http://www.sveasoft.com

"David" <David-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
>
> We are a small company (6 users) and we have a PBX here that can do VoIP.

My
> boss would like to be able to work from home and have incoming calls
> transferred to an IP phone next to him.
>
> At my home I have a test server running Windows 2003 SP1. Using RRAS

(pptp)
> I created between mine and the company's server a demand dial connection.
> Once I hooked up the IP phones to my server I could do anything like I

could
> when connected directly to the PBX.
> My boss however doesn't have a server running at his home, and he doesn't
> plan on installing one there. He has a simple Dlink WiFi router. Now I was
> wondering if there are any cheap (dlink, linksys,...) routers out there

that
> can both initiate & terminate incoming/outgoing router-to-router VPN's
> from/to RRAS. I looked on both manufacturer's website but didn't find one
> that could do both at the same time.
> Since we have a sonicwall sitting between our LAN & the ISP's router I
> thought I could configure an IPSec R2R VPN (using the same type at his

home)
> there. However I couldn't get it to work. I could get it to work when I
> plugged the ISP's network cable directly in our company's sonicwall (so it
> got a public IP, not one in the DMZ). I read something that said IPSec

can't
> traverse NAT and thats probably why it didn't work when the sonicwall was
> sitting in the DMZ. Unfortunately connecting the sonicwall directly to the
> internet is not an acceptable permanent solution, we need a DMZ.
>
> If possible I would like to be able to connect his IP phone using a XO

cable
> to his LAN port, and have his laptop connect using WiFi. If not, we would
> need to move the router closer because of cable length.
>
>
> regards,
>
> David
>
>



 
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David
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      08-31-2005, 08:05 AM
Hi,


as a matter of fact I have that one at my home. I tried the firmware, but I
can only get it to act as a VPN server, not a VPN client to RRAS.

In my original post I forgot to mention I also created a schematic of the
network.
http://users.pandora.be/obsession200...ne-Network.jpg


David


"Patrick Kremer" <n/a> wrote in message
news:Og%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Try a WRT54G with Sveasoft's firmware
>
> http://www.sveasoft.com
>
> "David" <David-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> We are a small company (6 users) and we have a PBX here that can do VoIP.

> My
>> boss would like to be able to work from home and have incoming calls
>> transferred to an IP phone next to him.
>>
>> At my home I have a test server running Windows 2003 SP1. Using RRAS

> (pptp)
>> I created between mine and the company's server a demand dial connection.
>> Once I hooked up the IP phones to my server I could do anything like I

> could
>> when connected directly to the PBX.
>> My boss however doesn't have a server running at his home, and he doesn't
>> plan on installing one there. He has a simple Dlink WiFi router. Now I
>> was
>> wondering if there are any cheap (dlink, linksys,...) routers out there

> that
>> can both initiate & terminate incoming/outgoing router-to-router VPN's
>> from/to RRAS. I looked on both manufacturer's website but didn't find one
>> that could do both at the same time.
>> Since we have a sonicwall sitting between our LAN & the ISP's router I
>> thought I could configure an IPSec R2R VPN (using the same type at his

> home)
>> there. However I couldn't get it to work. I could get it to work when I
>> plugged the ISP's network cable directly in our company's sonicwall (so
>> it
>> got a public IP, not one in the DMZ). I read something that said IPSec

> can't
>> traverse NAT and thats probably why it didn't work when the sonicwall was
>> sitting in the DMZ. Unfortunately connecting the sonicwall directly to
>> the
>> internet is not an acceptable permanent solution, we need a DMZ.
>>
>> If possible I would like to be able to connect his IP phone using a XO

> cable
>> to his LAN port, and have his laptop connect using WiFi. If not, we would
>> need to move the router closer because of cable length.
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>>

>
>



 
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Phillip Windell
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      08-31-2005, 04:11 PM
Your DMZ is part of the problem. The VPN, I'm guessing, is only connecting
to the DMZ and not the LAN, so the incomming "VPN Call" is dialing into the
DMZ and the user is becoming part of the DMZ instead of becoming part of the
LAN.

Two things....

1. The 192.168.0.x "router" need to be capable of "VPN-Passthorugh" (some
aren't) so that the VPN Call is passed back to the SonicWall so that the
Sonic wall can "answer the call". This causes the user to dial into and
become part of the LAN instead of the DMZ.

2. The WiFi Device must be capable of creating a Router-to-Router VPN (aka
Site-to-site VPN),...if it cannot, then it just simply is not suitable for
what you want to do. You can not make things do things that they weren't
designed to do. I am assuming that the Sonicwall is already capable.


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"David" <David-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
>
> as a matter of fact I have that one at my home. I tried the firmware, but

I
> can only get it to act as a VPN server, not a VPN client to RRAS.
>
> In my original post I forgot to mention I also created a schematic of the
> network.
> http://users.pandora.be/obsession200...ne-Network.jpg
>
>
> David
>
>
> "Patrick Kremer" <n/a> wrote in message
> news:Og%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Try a WRT54G with Sveasoft's firmware
> >
> > http://www.sveasoft.com
> >
> > "David" <David-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> We are a small company (6 users) and we have a PBX here that can do

VoIP.
> > My
> >> boss would like to be able to work from home and have incoming calls
> >> transferred to an IP phone next to him.
> >>
> >> At my home I have a test server running Windows 2003 SP1. Using RRAS

> > (pptp)
> >> I created between mine and the company's server a demand dial

connection.
> >> Once I hooked up the IP phones to my server I could do anything like I

> > could
> >> when connected directly to the PBX.
> >> My boss however doesn't have a server running at his home, and he

doesn't
> >> plan on installing one there. He has a simple Dlink WiFi router. Now I
> >> was
> >> wondering if there are any cheap (dlink, linksys,...) routers out there

> > that
> >> can both initiate & terminate incoming/outgoing router-to-router VPN's
> >> from/to RRAS. I looked on both manufacturer's website but didn't find

one
> >> that could do both at the same time.
> >> Since we have a sonicwall sitting between our LAN & the ISP's router I
> >> thought I could configure an IPSec R2R VPN (using the same type at his

> > home)
> >> there. However I couldn't get it to work. I could get it to work when I
> >> plugged the ISP's network cable directly in our company's sonicwall (so
> >> it
> >> got a public IP, not one in the DMZ). I read something that said IPSec

> > can't
> >> traverse NAT and thats probably why it didn't work when the sonicwall

was
> >> sitting in the DMZ. Unfortunately connecting the sonicwall directly to
> >> the
> >> internet is not an acceptable permanent solution, we need a DMZ.
> >>
> >> If possible I would like to be able to connect his IP phone using a XO

> > cable
> >> to his LAN port, and have his laptop connect using WiFi. If not, we

would
> >> need to move the router closer because of cable length.
> >>
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



 
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