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      03-04-2004, 10:58 PM
I am trying to set up a home network with cable modem and
wireless router with 4 LAN ports. One machine is a
laptop which connects just fine wireless or ethernet LAN,
using Windows XP. Another is a desktop, again connecting
fine using Windows 2000 and wired LAN.

The 3rd machine is the problem. It has Windows ME and I
can only get it to connect directly through the cable
modem, not the router. The router install software only
supports 2000 and XP, so to configure the ME machine, I
have to set things up manually. IPCONFIG indicates the
wrong default gateway (thinks the unit is still wired
directly to the modem) and I can't for the life of me
find a windows menu or registry key that allows me to
force this to look at the router. I have all my MAC
numbers and the router is set up to give a sufficient
number of IP addresses.

Any ideas?
 
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      03-05-2004, 12:31 AM
Router configuration software? Never used any of it--not necessary.

What IP address are you receiving. Is the router performing DHCP?

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:770b01c40244$925fa570$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I am trying to set up a home network with cable modem and
> wireless router with 4 LAN ports. One machine is a
> laptop which connects just fine wireless or ethernet LAN,
> using Windows XP. Another is a desktop, again connecting
> fine using Windows 2000 and wired LAN.
>
> The 3rd machine is the problem. It has Windows ME and I
> can only get it to connect directly through the cable
> modem, not the router. The router install software only
> supports 2000 and XP, so to configure the ME machine, I
> have to set things up manually. IPCONFIG indicates the
> wrong default gateway (thinks the unit is still wired
> directly to the modem) and I can't for the life of me
> find a windows menu or registry key that allows me to
> force this to look at the router. I have all my MAC
> numbers and the router is set up to give a sufficient
> number of IP addresses.
>
> Any ideas?



 
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      03-05-2004, 04:31 AM
The router is performing DHCP. I can see active leases
for the machines that connect to it properly. The ME
unit doesn't seem to "know" where to look. If I leave
its IPAutoConfiguration Enabled, it fails to find the
router and assigns a 169.etc IP to the machine. All the
others and the router have a 192.etc IP. If
IPAutoconfiguration is disabled, I can force the machine
IP, subnet mask and DHCP server to be what they need to
be, but I can't find a way to set the default gateway.
The default gateway is always blank on the ME unit's
config, whereas it is the router IP on all the working
units.

The router was built about a month ago and I did not know
when we ordered it that it would be designed only to work
easily with the latest OS versions. The install/config
software seem to presume that nobody would ever want to
use the unit with OS versions predating win2000 or winXP.

I did have the ME unit reaching the internet via the
router before, but I had to power down and move my office
and since I have not been able to recreate that
configuration. I was trying to share a printer on this
unit's ECP printer port, and possibly my attempts to make
the router serve as a LAN hub have created part of the
problem.

Another possible source of difficulty is that my ISP
offers no obvious way for me set up the router as a
recognized machine. The router actually mimics the MAC
address of the most recent machine connected to the
modem, if you allow it to be setup automatically.
Troubleshooting would be easier if I could the the ISP to
recognize the router as a unique device.

>-----Original Message-----
>Router configuration software? Never used any of it--

not necessary.
>
>What IP address are you receiving. Is the router

performing DHCP?
>
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:770b01c40244$925fa570$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I am trying to set up a home network with cable modem

and
>> wireless router with 4 LAN ports. One machine is a
>> laptop which connects just fine wireless or ethernet

LAN,
>> using Windows XP. Another is a desktop, again

connecting
>> fine using Windows 2000 and wired LAN.
>>
>> The 3rd machine is the problem. It has Windows ME and

I
>> can only get it to connect directly through the cable
>> modem, not the router. The router install software

only
>> supports 2000 and XP, so to configure the ME machine, I
>> have to set things up manually. IPCONFIG indicates the
>> wrong default gateway (thinks the unit is still wired
>> directly to the modem) and I can't for the life of me
>> find a windows menu or registry key that allows me to
>> force this to look at the router. I have all my MAC
>> numbers and the router is set up to give a sufficient
>> number of IP addresses.
>>
>> Any ideas?

>
>
>.
>

 
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Rob Elder, MVP-Networking
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      03-05-2004, 09:07 AM
DHCP is initiated by a broadcast from the client. As long as the router is
on the same subnet, it should respond.

Have you tried switching ports?


"Pete" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:792501c40273$19f18610$(E-Mail Removed)...
> The router is performing DHCP. I can see active leases
> for the machines that connect to it properly. The ME
> unit doesn't seem to "know" where to look. If I leave
> its IPAutoConfiguration Enabled, it fails to find the
> router and assigns a 169.etc IP to the machine. All the
> others and the router have a 192.etc IP. If
> IPAutoconfiguration is disabled, I can force the machine
> IP, subnet mask and DHCP server to be what they need to
> be, but I can't find a way to set the default gateway.
> The default gateway is always blank on the ME unit's
> config, whereas it is the router IP on all the working
> units.
>
> The router was built about a month ago and I did not know
> when we ordered it that it would be designed only to work
> easily with the latest OS versions. The install/config
> software seem to presume that nobody would ever want to
> use the unit with OS versions predating win2000 or winXP.
>
> I did have the ME unit reaching the internet via the
> router before, but I had to power down and move my office
> and since I have not been able to recreate that
> configuration. I was trying to share a printer on this
> unit's ECP printer port, and possibly my attempts to make
> the router serve as a LAN hub have created part of the
> problem.
>
> Another possible source of difficulty is that my ISP
> offers no obvious way for me set up the router as a
> recognized machine. The router actually mimics the MAC
> address of the most recent machine connected to the
> modem, if you allow it to be setup automatically.
> Troubleshooting would be easier if I could the the ISP to
> recognize the router as a unique device.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Router configuration software? Never used any of it--

> not necessary.
> >
> >What IP address are you receiving. Is the router

> performing DHCP?
> >
> ><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:770b01c40244$925fa570$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I am trying to set up a home network with cable modem

> and
> >> wireless router with 4 LAN ports. One machine is a
> >> laptop which connects just fine wireless or ethernet

> LAN,
> >> using Windows XP. Another is a desktop, again

> connecting
> >> fine using Windows 2000 and wired LAN.
> >>
> >> The 3rd machine is the problem. It has Windows ME and

> I
> >> can only get it to connect directly through the cable
> >> modem, not the router. The router install software

> only
> >> supports 2000 and XP, so to configure the ME machine, I
> >> have to set things up manually. IPCONFIG indicates the
> >> wrong default gateway (thinks the unit is still wired
> >> directly to the modem) and I can't for the life of me
> >> find a windows menu or registry key that allows me to
> >> force this to look at the router. I have all my MAC
> >> numbers and the router is set up to give a sufficient
> >> number of IP addresses.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?

> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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      03-05-2004, 12:40 PM
If you mean moving the ethernet cables to different ports
on the router, yes. This still doesn't work.

I can force the subnet to be identical, but my
understanding is that manual configuration disables
DHCP. I need a more detailed explanation of how to
configure this. Autoconfig keeps giving the wrong subnet.

>-----Original Message-----
>DHCP is initiated by a broadcast from the client. As

long as the router is
>on the same subnet, it should respond.
>
>Have you tried switching ports?
>
>
>"Pete" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:792501c40273$19f18610$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The router is performing DHCP. I can see active leases
>> for the machines that connect to it properly. The ME
>> unit doesn't seem to "know" where to look. If I leave
>> its IPAutoConfiguration Enabled, it fails to find the
>> router and assigns a 169.etc IP to the machine. All

the
>> others and the router have a 192.etc IP. If
>> IPAutoconfiguration is disabled, I can force the

machine
>> IP, subnet mask and DHCP server to be what they need to
>> be, but I can't find a way to set the default gateway.
>> The default gateway is always blank on the ME unit's
>> config, whereas it is the router IP on all the working
>> units.
>>
>> The router was built about a month ago and I did not

know
>> when we ordered it that it would be designed only to

work
>> easily with the latest OS versions. The install/config
>> software seem to presume that nobody would ever want to
>> use the unit with OS versions predating win2000 or

winXP.
>>
>> I did have the ME unit reaching the internet via the
>> router before, but I had to power down and move my

office
>> and since I have not been able to recreate that
>> configuration. I was trying to share a printer on this
>> unit's ECP printer port, and possibly my attempts to

make
>> the router serve as a LAN hub have created part of the
>> problem.
>>
>> Another possible source of difficulty is that my ISP
>> offers no obvious way for me set up the router as a
>> recognized machine. The router actually mimics the MAC
>> address of the most recent machine connected to the
>> modem, if you allow it to be setup automatically.
>> Troubleshooting would be easier if I could the the ISP

to
>> recognize the router as a unique device.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Router configuration software? Never used any of it-

-
>> not necessary.
>> >
>> >What IP address are you receiving. Is the router

>> performing DHCP?
>> >
>> ><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >news:770b01c40244$925fa570$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> I am trying to set up a home network with cable

modem
>> and
>> >> wireless router with 4 LAN ports. One machine is a
>> >> laptop which connects just fine wireless or ethernet

>> LAN,
>> >> using Windows XP. Another is a desktop, again

>> connecting
>> >> fine using Windows 2000 and wired LAN.
>> >>
>> >> The 3rd machine is the problem. It has Windows ME

and
>> I
>> >> can only get it to connect directly through the

cable
>> >> modem, not the router. The router install software

>> only
>> >> supports 2000 and XP, so to configure the ME

machine, I
>> >> have to set things up manually. IPCONFIG indicates

the
>> >> wrong default gateway (thinks the unit is still

wired
>> >> directly to the modem) and I can't for the life of

me
>> >> find a windows menu or registry key that allows me

to
>> >> force this to look at the router. I have all my MAC
>> >> numbers and the router is set up to give a

sufficient
>> >> number of IP addresses.
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas?
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
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>

 
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      03-06-2004, 03:15 PM
Check your protocols. Make certain you're using just TCP/IP (w/NetBios
enabled). Your ME machine likely defaulted to NetBeui. Mixing protocols is
problematic.

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:7db201c402b7$6ca219d0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> If you mean moving the ethernet cables to different ports
> on the router, yes. This still doesn't work.
>
> I can force the subnet to be identical, but my
> understanding is that manual configuration disables
> DHCP. I need a more detailed explanation of how to
> configure this. Autoconfig keeps giving the wrong subnet.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >DHCP is initiated by a broadcast from the client. As

> long as the router is
> >on the same subnet, it should respond.
> >
> >Have you tried switching ports?
> >
> >
> >"Pete" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message
> >news:792501c40273$19f18610$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> The router is performing DHCP. I can see active leases
> >> for the machines that connect to it properly. The ME
> >> unit doesn't seem to "know" where to look. If I leave
> >> its IPAutoConfiguration Enabled, it fails to find the
> >> router and assigns a 169.etc IP to the machine. All

> the
> >> others and the router have a 192.etc IP. If
> >> IPAutoconfiguration is disabled, I can force the

> machine
> >> IP, subnet mask and DHCP server to be what they need to
> >> be, but I can't find a way to set the default gateway.
> >> The default gateway is always blank on the ME unit's
> >> config, whereas it is the router IP on all the working
> >> units.
> >>
> >> The router was built about a month ago and I did not

> know
> >> when we ordered it that it would be designed only to

> work
> >> easily with the latest OS versions. The install/config
> >> software seem to presume that nobody would ever want to
> >> use the unit with OS versions predating win2000 or

> winXP.
> >>
> >> I did have the ME unit reaching the internet via the
> >> router before, but I had to power down and move my

> office
> >> and since I have not been able to recreate that
> >> configuration. I was trying to share a printer on this
> >> unit's ECP printer port, and possibly my attempts to

> make
> >> the router serve as a LAN hub have created part of the
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> Another possible source of difficulty is that my ISP
> >> offers no obvious way for me set up the router as a
> >> recognized machine. The router actually mimics the MAC
> >> address of the most recent machine connected to the
> >> modem, if you allow it to be setup automatically.
> >> Troubleshooting would be easier if I could the the ISP

> to
> >> recognize the router as a unique device.
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Router configuration software? Never used any of it-

> -
> >> not necessary.
> >> >
> >> >What IP address are you receiving. Is the router
> >> performing DHCP?
> >> >
> >> ><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >news:770b01c40244$925fa570$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> I am trying to set up a home network with cable

> modem
> >> and
> >> >> wireless router with 4 LAN ports. One machine is a
> >> >> laptop which connects just fine wireless or ethernet
> >> LAN,
> >> >> using Windows XP. Another is a desktop, again
> >> connecting
> >> >> fine using Windows 2000 and wired LAN.
> >> >>
> >> >> The 3rd machine is the problem. It has Windows ME

> and
> >> I
> >> >> can only get it to connect directly through the

> cable
> >> >> modem, not the router. The router install software
> >> only
> >> >> supports 2000 and XP, so to configure the ME

> machine, I
> >> >> have to set things up manually. IPCONFIG indicates

> the
> >> >> wrong default gateway (thinks the unit is still

> wired
> >> >> directly to the modem) and I can't for the life of

> me
> >> >> find a windows menu or registry key that allows me

> to
> >> >> force this to look at the router. I have all my MAC
> >> >> numbers and the router is set up to give a

> sufficient
> >> >> number of IP addresses.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any ideas?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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