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techtedg@kc.rr.com
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      02-27-2008, 02:01 PM
We currently have a full T1, a standard netgear wifi router, and a server 2k3
vpn server (ports open on router). We have a need to have a remote office
that i'd like to get connected via vpn. I dont want each PC to have to login
to the vpn each time they login. Is there a router i can buy that will allow
me to connect to our standard microsoft vpn as if it were another individual
client machine and allow each machine connected to the router to access the
main network? I'm sure there is, just not sure which one i should be
buying... Also in that scenario where do the remote machines get their dhcp
addresses from? I would assume the router would give out IPs to each client
connected to it, but wont the main server try to give out IPs to those
clients aswell since the VPN will be active whenever the router is on?

HELP!
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Ted Glass
Consolidated Technology, Inc.
2030 Swift Ave.
North Kansas City, MO
64116
 
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Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
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      02-27-2008, 05:06 PM
If both sites have windows server, you can create site to site VPN.
Otherwise buy a router can do IPSec VPN. These how to may help.

Microsoft site to sie vpnStep-by-Step Guide for Setting Up a PPTP-based
Site-to-Site VPN Connection using 2003, Step-by-Step Guide for Setting Up a
PPTP-based Site-to-Site VPN ...
http://www.howtonetworking.com/artic...etositevpn.htm

Linksys Router to router VPNHow to Setup Linksys Router to Router VPN
1/10. This article describes how to configure a site to site VPN between two
Linksys BEFVP41 routers. ...
http://www.howtonetworking.com/Remot...inksysvpn1.htm



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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:A8762885-76BD-4EB7-97A4-(E-Mail Removed)...
> We currently have a full T1, a standard netgear wifi router, and a server
> 2k3
> vpn server (ports open on router). We have a need to have a remote office
> that i'd like to get connected via vpn. I dont want each PC to have to
> login
> to the vpn each time they login. Is there a router i can buy that will
> allow
> me to connect to our standard microsoft vpn as if it were another
> individual
> client machine and allow each machine connected to the router to access
> the
> main network? I'm sure there is, just not sure which one i should be
> buying... Also in that scenario where do the remote machines get their
> dhcp
> addresses from? I would assume the router would give out IPs to each
> client
> connected to it, but wont the main server try to give out IPs to those
> clients aswell since the VPN will be active whenever the router is on?
>
> HELP!
> --
> Ted Glass
> Consolidated Technology, Inc.
> 2030 Swift Ave.
> North Kansas City, MO
> 64116


 
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techtedg@kc.rr.com
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      02-27-2008, 06:09 PM
I'm sure both of those options will achieve what i am looking to do. But its
not exactly what i'm looking for. I dont want to have to buy two routers and
create the vpn between them, i just want the one router at the remote
location to login to our existing vpn server and then serve out that vpn
connection to all the remote clients. Also i've heard some ppl dont like
creating the site-to-site vpns using existing windows servers because of
performance issues with the main server. We already run exchange, sharepoint,
ad, printers, vpn, etc thru this main server and i dont want to slow it down
any more than i have to.

Is there a router with a compatible Microsoft VPN Client built into it?


"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> If both sites have windows server, you can create site to site VPN.
> Otherwise buy a router can do IPSec VPN. These how to may help.
>
> Microsoft site to sie vpnStep-by-Step Guide for Setting Up a PPTP-based
> Site-to-Site VPN Connection using 2003, Step-by-Step Guide for Setting Up a
> PPTP-based Site-to-Site VPN ...
> http://www.howtonetworking.com/artic...etositevpn.htm
>
> Linksys Router to router VPNHow to Setup Linksys Router to Router VPN
> 1/10. This article describes how to configure a site to site VPN between two
> Linksys BEFVP41 routers. ...
> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Remot...inksysvpn1.htm
>
>
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>
>
> "(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:A8762885-76BD-4EB7-97A4-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > We currently have a full T1, a standard netgear wifi router, and a server
> > 2k3
> > vpn server (ports open on router). We have a need to have a remote office
> > that i'd like to get connected via vpn. I dont want each PC to have to
> > login
> > to the vpn each time they login. Is there a router i can buy that will
> > allow
> > me to connect to our standard microsoft vpn as if it were another
> > individual
> > client machine and allow each machine connected to the router to access
> > the
> > main network? I'm sure there is, just not sure which one i should be
> > buying... Also in that scenario where do the remote machines get their
> > dhcp
> > addresses from? I would assume the router would give out IPs to each
> > client
> > connected to it, but wont the main server try to give out IPs to those
> > clients aswell since the VPN will be active whenever the router is on?
> >
> > HELP!
> > --
> > Ted Glass
> > Consolidated Technology, Inc.
> > 2030 Swift Ave.
> > North Kansas City, MO
> > 64116

>
>

 
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Bill Grant
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      02-27-2008, 09:09 PM
You are missing the point here. A site to site link is the only way to do
what you want to do. The routers at both ends of the link must be aware of
the other site and have routes to the subnet used by the other site.

If the main site is not aware that its "client" is a router it only sets
up a host router back to the client. Traffic for the machines behind the
router would not be forwarded through the VPN link.


"(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:135590C6-C0DB-46DE-89AE-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm sure both of those options will achieve what i am looking to do. But
> its
> not exactly what i'm looking for. I dont want to have to buy two routers
> and
> create the vpn between them, i just want the one router at the remote
> location to login to our existing vpn server and then serve out that vpn
> connection to all the remote clients. Also i've heard some ppl dont like
> creating the site-to-site vpns using existing windows servers because of
> performance issues with the main server. We already run exchange,
> sharepoint,
> ad, printers, vpn, etc thru this main server and i dont want to slow it
> down
> any more than i have to.
>
> Is there a router with a compatible Microsoft VPN Client built into it?
>
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> If both sites have windows server, you can create site to site VPN.
>> Otherwise buy a router can do IPSec VPN. These how to may help.
>>
>> Microsoft site to sie vpnStep-by-Step Guide for Setting Up a PPTP-based
>> Site-to-Site VPN Connection using 2003, Step-by-Step Guide for Setting Up
>> a
>> PPTP-based Site-to-Site VPN ...
>> http://www.howtonetworking.com/artic...etositevpn.htm
>>
>> Linksys Router to router VPNHow to Setup Linksys Router to Router
>> VPN
>> 1/10. This article describes how to configure a site to site VPN between
>> two
>> Linksys BEFVP41 routers. ...
>> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Remot...inksysvpn1.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>>
>>
>> "(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message news:A8762885-76BD-4EB7-97A4-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > We currently have a full T1, a standard netgear wifi router, and a
>> > server
>> > 2k3
>> > vpn server (ports open on router). We have a need to have a remote
>> > office
>> > that i'd like to get connected via vpn. I dont want each PC to have to
>> > login
>> > to the vpn each time they login. Is there a router i can buy that will
>> > allow
>> > me to connect to our standard microsoft vpn as if it were another
>> > individual
>> > client machine and allow each machine connected to the router to access
>> > the
>> > main network? I'm sure there is, just not sure which one i should be
>> > buying... Also in that scenario where do the remote machines get their
>> > dhcp
>> > addresses from? I would assume the router would give out IPs to each
>> > client
>> > connected to it, but wont the main server try to give out IPs to those
>> > clients aswell since the VPN will be active whenever the router is on?
>> >
>> > HELP!
>> > --
>> > Ted Glass
>> > Consolidated Technology, Inc.
>> > 2030 Swift Ave.
>> > North Kansas City, MO
>> > 64116

>>
>>


 
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Bill Grant
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      02-28-2008, 12:45 AM
What you need to do is set up the VPN server at the main site to accept
an incoming router connection. This involves creating a demand-dial
interface and linking a static route to the remote site's subnet to this
interface. (You do that using the new static route wizard, and select the
interface from the dropdown list). Then create an account with dialup
permission where the username matches the demand-dial interface name. That
takes care of the routing at that end.

For the router at the remote site, you need to ensure that it actually
connects to the demand-dial interface. You do that by using the name of the
demand-dial interface as the username in the connection properties.

If the remote router does not actually connect to the demand-dial
interface on the server, the server assumes that it is a normal dialup type
connection and only sets up a host route. If you connect to the dd
interface, the subnet route associated with the dd interface becomes active
and will route traffic for the remote site through the VPN link.

"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You are missing the point here. A site to site link is the only way to do
> what you want to do. The routers at both ends of the link must be aware of
> the other site and have routes to the subnet used by the other site.
>
> If the main site is not aware that its "client" is a router it only sets
> up a host router back to the client. Traffic for the machines behind the
> router would not be forwarded through the VPN link.
>
>
> "(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:135590C6-C0DB-46DE-89AE-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I'm sure both of those options will achieve what i am looking to do. But
>> its
>> not exactly what i'm looking for. I dont want to have to buy two routers
>> and
>> create the vpn between them, i just want the one router at the remote
>> location to login to our existing vpn server and then serve out that vpn
>> connection to all the remote clients. Also i've heard some ppl dont like
>> creating the site-to-site vpns using existing windows servers because of
>> performance issues with the main server. We already run exchange,
>> sharepoint,
>> ad, printers, vpn, etc thru this main server and i dont want to slow it
>> down
>> any more than i have to.
>>
>> Is there a router with a compatible Microsoft VPN Client built into it?
>>
>>
>> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>>
>>> If both sites have windows server, you can create site to site VPN.
>>> Otherwise buy a router can do IPSec VPN. These how to may help.
>>>
>>> Microsoft site to sie vpnStep-by-Step Guide for Setting Up a PPTP-based
>>> Site-to-Site VPN Connection using 2003, Step-by-Step Guide for Setting
>>> Up a
>>> PPTP-based Site-to-Site VPN ...
>>> http://www.howtonetworking.com/artic...etositevpn.htm
>>>
>>> Linksys Router to router VPNHow to Setup Linksys Router to Router
>>> VPN
>>> 1/10. This article describes how to configure a site to site VPN between
>>> two
>>> Linksys BEFVP41 routers. ...
>>> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Remot...inksysvpn1.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>>> in
>>> message news:A8762885-76BD-4EB7-97A4-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> > We currently have a full T1, a standard netgear wifi router, and a
>>> > server
>>> > 2k3
>>> > vpn server (ports open on router). We have a need to have a remote
>>> > office
>>> > that i'd like to get connected via vpn. I dont want each PC to have to
>>> > login
>>> > to the vpn each time they login. Is there a router i can buy that will
>>> > allow
>>> > me to connect to our standard microsoft vpn as if it were another
>>> > individual
>>> > client machine and allow each machine connected to the router to
>>> > access
>>> > the
>>> > main network? I'm sure there is, just not sure which one i should be
>>> > buying... Also in that scenario where do the remote machines get their
>>> > dhcp
>>> > addresses from? I would assume the router would give out IPs to each
>>> > client
>>> > connected to it, but wont the main server try to give out IPs to those
>>> > clients aswell since the VPN will be active whenever the router is on?
>>> >
>>> > HELP!
>>> > --
>>> > Ted Glass
>>> > Consolidated Technology, Inc.
>>> > 2030 Swift Ave.
>>> > North Kansas City, MO
>>> > 64116
>>>
>>>

>


 
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