Router ADSL IP addresses

I'm soon to change from a dial up to an ADSL connection, I intend to
get some type of router, this may be part of the modem or seperate.

If I get seperate items are each assigned a different IP address on my
network.

My Access Point defaults to 192.168.0.227 and I'm not sure of the
significance of that particular address.

Geoff Lane

Geoff Lane wrote:
> I'm soon to change from a dial up to an ADSL connection, I intend to
> get some type of router, this may be part of the modem or seperate.
>
> If I get seperate items are each assigned a different IP address on my
> network.
>
> My Access Point defaults to 192.168.0.227 and I'm not sure of the
> significance of that particular address.
>
> Geoff Lane
>

Buying a router without a built in modem is a bit of a blind alley, I
suspecteven the cheapest router-modems have all the features you will need.

You if you buy a 4 or 5 port router complete with switched hub it can
either replace a hub/switch or plug into an existing one. The ip address
of the router is normally any non-allocated address you choose in your
ip address range. For example on mine it is 192.168.1.101, the 4 client
machines are allocated ip addresses automatically by the routers DHCP
feature from a range 192.168.1.102 to 192.168.1.105. The address of the
router and the range of the client address pool can be changed via a
password protected menu accessed via a web browser from any of the
client PCs.

The 192.168.-.- range of ip address are class C addresses which are not
routeable to the internet, the router re-routes internet traffic to and
from each PC hiding the ip address of each pc.

If another DHCP server exists on the network (such as a Linux or Windows
NT/XP server) or a smaart Switched Hub or it is desired to use fixed
IP addressing the DHCP feature of the router can be turned off.


The client PCs don't need to know the address of the router as it
automatically redirects any traffic not addressed to the local "C" class
IP address range..

The modem will not have an IP address in any networking scheme. The router
will pick a default address which can usually be changed pretty easily.

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"Geoff Lane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm soon to change from a dial up to an ADSL connection, I intend to
> get some type of router, this may be part of the modem or seperate.
>
> If I get seperate items are each assigned a different IP address on my
> network.
>
> My Access Point defaults to 192.168.0.227 and I'm not sure of the
> significance of that particular address.
>
> Geoff Lane
>

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 08:20:25 +0100, Geoff Lane <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I'm soon to change from a dial up to an ADSL connection, I intend to
>get some type of router, this may be part of the modem or seperate.
>
>If I get seperate items are each assigned a different IP address on my
>network.
>

No. The router will, the modem won't.

The reason the two part thing came about was some ISP's terms and
conditions (in the smallprint) used to insist on a single connection
using their supplied dsl modem. Presumably this was to discourage
private networking competing with their own network accounts. Since
it's now equally possible to have them separate or together these type
of isp terms look to have been largely superseded.

Unless your terms say otherwise, I'd go for the all in one package.
Otherwise it's creating an unnecessary interface requirement which can
only cause problems.

If you're looking for something cheap, I bought one of these on ebay
last week for the (ex &) kids.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...&category=3706

There are others with attached hub/switch if you don't have that gear
already. Obviously, you will have to pay a bit more for that.


>My Access Point defaults to 192.168.0.227 and I'm not sure of the
>significance of that particular address.

The above router defaults to 10.0.0.2. Neither this address nor the
192... address you mention are significant. It is very simple to
change the router to an address within your current private network
range using the http interface. It also has a smart setup to walk you
through the ppp setup with your isp.

Whatever you eventually get, it is likely that it will have dhcp on by
default so don't forget to switch it off if you already have a dhcp
server running on your wireless access point.


Jim.

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:56:09 +0100, James Egan <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:


>>I'm soon to change from a dial up to an ADSL connection, I intend to
>>get some type of router, this may be part of the modem or seperate.
>>
>>If I get seperate items are each assigned a different IP address on my
>>network.

>If you're looking for something cheap, I bought one of these on ebay
>last week for the (ex &) kids.
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...&category=3706
>
>There are others with attached hub/switch if you don't have that gear
>already. Obviously, you will have to pay a bit more for that.

I have a switched hub and seperate Wireless Access Point at the
moment, re the looking for something cheap - I am actually looking at
the Vigor 2600, loads of gismos and flashing lights :-)))

Seriously, I've been told it is worth paying the extra for.

Geoff Lane