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Lothar of the Hill People
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      04-18-2004, 12:12 AM
Why does roadrunner charge extra for home networking?
Can't I just buy a wireless router and wireless network
card to network my desktop and laptop or am I missing
something??? Why would anyone pay roadrunner for
networking? I don't understand. I can't seem to get a
straight answer out of anyone on this issue.
 
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Eric Chew [MVP]
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      04-18-2004, 12:19 AM
They are charging to hook up to 3 different computers to a hub and then the
cable modem. Basicly, you paying them for the 2 other IP addresses. So,
yes, get a router and do it yourself for free like the rest of us...

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"Lothar of the Hill People" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Why does roadrunner charge extra for home networking?
> Can't I just buy a wireless router and wireless network
> card to network my desktop and laptop or am I missing
> something??? Why would anyone pay roadrunner for
> networking? I don't understand. I can't seem to get a
> straight answer out of anyone on this issue.



 
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Chris H.
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      04-18-2004, 12:21 AM
If you were to go to any Internet Service Provider and ask to hook up
multiple computers, they would charge you. Unless they're nice, and then
they might suggest you get a router instead of paying for several individual
IP addresses. 8-)

They're in business to make money, but at the same time they only need to
supply you a single IP (even if it rotates) and you're sharing the bandwidth
on your computers. If they supply you (at your cost) multiple IP addresses,
they need to maintain those and can't get full fare from several home/small
business locations on each address.
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"Lothar of the Hill People" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:067301c424d9$d35d3260$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Why does roadrunner charge extra for home networking?
> Can't I just buy a wireless router and wireless network
> card to network my desktop and laptop or am I missing
> something??? Why would anyone pay roadrunner for
> networking? I don't understand. I can't seem to get a
> straight answer out of anyone on this issue.



 
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Scott
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      04-18-2004, 12:32 AM
I don't have Roadrunner, but in theory you are correct.
A wireless router is only going to "SHOW" one IP address
to the world.


>-----Original Message-----
>Why does roadrunner charge extra for home networking?
>Can't I just buy a wireless router and wireless network
>card to network my desktop and laptop or am I missing
>something??? Why would anyone pay roadrunner for
>networking? I don't understand. I can't seem to get a
>straight answer out of anyone on this issue.
>.
>

 
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Lothar of the Hill People
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      04-18-2004, 02:15 AM
So what's the advantage of having multiple IP addresses?
Will my wife and I both be able to access the internet on
different PC's at the same time with just the router?

Thanks!


>-----Original Message-----
>They are charging to hook up to 3 different computers to

a hub and then the
>cable modem. Basicly, you paying them for the 2 other IP

addresses. So,
>yes, get a router and do it yourself for free like the

rest of us...
>
>--
>Eric Chew, MVP
>Microsoft Hardware Products
>(Please, no direct email inquiries, please post to the

newsgroups so that
>others may benefit from your questions).
>
>Need help with your Microsoft Hardware product? Check

out the Microsoft
>Online Support Knowledge Base at
>http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.asp.
>The Microsoft MVP Program does not constitute employment

or contractual
>obligation with Microsoft Corporation. We do this for

fun!
>
>
>"Lothar of the Hill People" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

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>news:067301c424d9$d35d3260$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Why does roadrunner charge extra for home networking?
>> Can't I just buy a wireless router and wireless network
>> card to network my desktop and laptop or am I missing
>> something??? Why would anyone pay roadrunner for
>> networking? I don't understand. I can't seem to get a
>> straight answer out of anyone on this issue.

>
>
>.
>

 
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Chris H.
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      04-18-2004, 02:29 AM
If you're running separate IP numbers, then each computer supposedly has the
full service bandwidth. You'll really not notice any slowness sharing a
connection with DSL or cable, unless you're running numerous systems at the
same time.
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"Lothar of the Hill People" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:070901c424ea$f774f140$(E-Mail Removed)...
> So what's the advantage of having multiple IP addresses?
> Will my wife and I both be able to access the internet on
> different PC's at the same time with just the router?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>They are charging to hook up to 3 different computers to

> a hub and then the
>>cable modem. Basicly, you paying them for the 2 other IP

> addresses. So,
>>yes, get a router and do it yourself for free like the

> rest of us...
>>
>>--
>>Eric Chew, MVP
>>Microsoft Hardware Products
>>(Please, no direct email inquiries, please post to the

> newsgroups so that
>>others may benefit from your questions).
>>
>>Need help with your Microsoft Hardware product? Check

> out the Microsoft
>>Online Support Knowledge Base at
>>http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.asp.
>>The Microsoft MVP Program does not constitute employment

> or contractual
>>obligation with Microsoft Corporation. We do this for

> fun!
>>
>>
>>"Lothar of the Hill People" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

> in message
>>news:067301c424d9$d35d3260$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Why does roadrunner charge extra for home networking?
>>> Can't I just buy a wireless router and wireless network
>>> card to network my desktop and laptop or am I missing
>>> something??? Why would anyone pay roadrunner for
>>> networking? I don't understand. I can't seem to get a
>>> straight answer out of anyone on this issue.

>>
>>
>>.
>>



 
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Jason Tsang
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      04-18-2004, 02:41 AM
Actually, with most implementations, it is still aggregate bandwidth between
all your clients (this assumes you are sharing over one broadband modem).
If your ISP's broadband offering is 300 kB/s down and 50 kB/s up, buying
extra ips will mean x number of ips sharing that bandwidth.

The advantage of getting multiple ips for your computers is basically so
your computer is directly accessible from the internet.
You may need this if you have NAT unfriendly applications, need multiple ftp
servers running on port 21 etc etc.

Most people who need this will know they need it. If you don't know why you
need multiple ips, you most likely won't need it.

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"Chris H." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> If you're running separate IP numbers, then each computer supposedly has

the
> full service bandwidth. You'll really not notice any slowness sharing a
> connection with DSL or cable, unless you're running numerous systems at

the
> same time.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
> "Lothar of the Hill People" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:070901c424ea$f774f140$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > So what's the advantage of having multiple IP addresses?
> > Will my wife and I both be able to access the internet on
> > different PC's at the same time with just the router?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>They are charging to hook up to 3 different computers to

> > a hub and then the
> >>cable modem. Basicly, you paying them for the 2 other IP

> > addresses. So,
> >>yes, get a router and do it yourself for free like the

> > rest of us...
> >>
> >>--
> >>Eric Chew, MVP
> >>Microsoft Hardware Products
> >>(Please, no direct email inquiries, please post to the

> > newsgroups so that
> >>others may benefit from your questions).
> >>
> >>Need help with your Microsoft Hardware product? Check

> > out the Microsoft
> >>Online Support Knowledge Base at
> >>http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.asp.
> >>The Microsoft MVP Program does not constitute employment

> > or contractual
> >>obligation with Microsoft Corporation. We do this for

> > fun!
> >>
> >>
> >>"Lothar of the Hill People" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

> > in message
> >>news:067301c424d9$d35d3260$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> Why does roadrunner charge extra for home networking?
> >>> Can't I just buy a wireless router and wireless network
> >>> card to network my desktop and laptop or am I missing
> >>> something??? Why would anyone pay roadrunner for
> >>> networking? I don't understand. I can't seem to get a
> >>> straight answer out of anyone on this issue.
> >>
> >>
> >>.
> >>

>
>



 
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Eric Chew [MVP]
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      04-18-2004, 03:32 AM
Unless you have Comcast - in which case they reps will; TELL you to use a
router...

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"Chris H." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uE$(E-Mail Removed)...
> If you were to go to any Internet Service Provider and ask to hook up
> multiple computers, they would charge you. Unless they're nice, and then
> they might suggest you get a router instead of paying for several
> individual IP addresses. 8-)
>
> They're in business to make money, but at the same time they only need to
> supply you a single IP (even if it rotates) and you're sharing the
> bandwidth on your computers. If they supply you (at your cost) multiple
> IP addresses, they need to maintain those and can't get full fare from
> several home/small business locations on each address.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
> "Lothar of the Hill People" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:067301c424d9$d35d3260$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Why does roadrunner charge extra for home networking?
>> Can't I just buy a wireless router and wireless network
>> card to network my desktop and laptop or am I missing
>> something??? Why would anyone pay roadrunner for
>> networking? I don't understand. I can't seem to get a
>> straight answer out of anyone on this issue.

>
>



 
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Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]
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      04-18-2004, 09:53 AM
all trues, except the terms of service for most of these ISP's
prohibit running these kinds of servers.

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:41:46 -0400, "Jason Tsang"
<jason-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>The advantage of getting multiple ips for your computers is basically so
>your computer is directly accessible from the internet.
>You may need this if you have NAT unfriendly applications, need multiple ftp
>servers running on port 21 etc etc.


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      04-18-2004, 01:06 PM
If you have 3 computers, statistically you have higher
chances of using more bandwdith -- thus extra charge.
Although ISPs advertise a maximum bandwidth, they don't
like people to use it -- just look at your agreement and
see if it includes clauses where they can cancel the
contract because using too much bandwidth (surely it does
define what is too much). There has been even several
cases of disconnecting heavy users. Talk fair business
practices.

This is certainly a reason. Why they would let you use a
connection, when they could make you pay for 3?

Hopefully, not every ISP is thinking this way -- mine
actually accepts routers and any number of computers, but
does not provide support or installation for LANs.

>-----Original Message-----
>Why does roadrunner charge extra for home networking?
>Can't I just buy a wireless router and wireless network
>card to network my desktop and laptop or am I missing
>something??? Why would anyone pay roadrunner for
>networking? I don't understand. I can't seem to get a
>straight answer out of anyone on this issue.
>.
>

 
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