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Dave Beanie
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      11-09-2007, 02:33 AM
ok, long story but please read through

I have a windows 2003 server, installed RAS, setup RAS, and I cannot VPN
into it, I keep getting error 800.
I cannot ping the server when I have RAS running, once I turn it off I can
ping the server.
I do not have any firewalls running, no anti virus
here is what i have done:

opened several ports on router, 1723, 47-51, 3389, 500, still no
changed the static routes
went through manage servers and step by step on the help for setting up ras
I have done several other things but cant remember..

I have my laptop plugged into the router and the server is into it also, I
can vpn to its ip address and it doesnt give me error 800, but i cannot ping
it
I cannot get out to the internet on the server,
I used to be able to until just recently

I have a t-1 connection, and it comes in to the router and then plugs into
the server from there.
now I have another nic in the server for another network but that ip is at
172.x.x.x, the one i have for this connection i have an ip at 192.168.x.x.
please give me any suggestions
Thanks


 
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Phillip Windell
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      11-16-2007, 07:22 PM
It is supposed to look like this:

<Internet>
|
[NAT-Firewall]
|
[Switch or Hub]
/ | \
(gobs of machine plugged
into the switch here)

Many of the NAT-Firewalls have 4 or so ports in addition to the WAN port.
These are just the same thing as Switch ports,...it is just simply a small
switch built into the same device,...but logically, in terms of network
design you have to look at it as if it was in a separate physical device.

If you want to use an RRAS box for VPN Server,..then it will run with two
Nics and will physcially *replace* the NAT-Firewall with itself. The NAT
Firewall will just collect dust on a shelf. In some situations they can be
run side-by-side and in some situations they can be run back-to-back, and in
some situations the RRAS box can do VPN with only one Nic,...but to me that
is just an extra nusiance to have to babysit.

<Internet>
|
[RRAS VPN box]
|
[Switch or Hub]
/ | \
(gobs of machine plugged
into the switch here)

Now with the above in mind what exactly are you wanting to do? I'm not sure
right now what details to ask for so you'll just have to think about it and
give me the important details and not bury me with details I don't
need,...and see what we can come up with.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------



"Dave Beanie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1496E7C2-7B6F-46FF-BD98-(E-Mail Removed)...
> ok, long story but please read through
>
> I have a windows 2003 server, installed RAS, setup RAS, and I cannot VPN
> into it, I keep getting error 800.
> I cannot ping the server when I have RAS running, once I turn it off I can
> ping the server.
> I do not have any firewalls running, no anti virus
> here is what i have done:
>
> opened several ports on router, 1723, 47-51, 3389, 500, still no
> changed the static routes
> went through manage servers and step by step on the help for setting up
> ras
> I have done several other things but cant remember..
>
> I have my laptop plugged into the router and the server is into it also, I
> can vpn to its ip address and it doesnt give me error 800, but i cannot
> ping
> it
> I cannot get out to the internet on the server,
> I used to be able to until just recently
>
> I have a t-1 connection, and it comes in to the router and then plugs into
> the server from there.
> now I have another nic in the server for another network but that ip is at
> 172.x.x.x, the one i have for this connection i have an ip at 192.168.x.x.
> please give me any suggestions
> Thanks
>
>



 
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Dave Beanie
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      11-29-2007, 07:28 PM
So I cannot use a router inbetween the internet and server?
This is what is going on now,
I reformatted trying to get this working.

Internet
|
Router
|
Server Nic
_____
| | ---------- Server with Windows 2003 Server r2
| |
|____|
|
|
Servers and workstations,
including the above Server
on the other internal nic
|
Cisco
|
Internet

please let me knwo what you think
thanks



"Phillip Windell" wrote:

> It is supposed to look like this:
>
> <Internet>
> |
> [NAT-Firewall]
> |
> [Switch or Hub]
> / | \
> (gobs of machine plugged
> into the switch here)
>
> Many of the NAT-Firewalls have 4 or so ports in addition to the WAN port.
> These are just the same thing as Switch ports,...it is just simply a small
> switch built into the same device,...but logically, in terms of network
> design you have to look at it as if it was in a separate physical device.
>
> If you want to use an RRAS box for VPN Server,..then it will run with two
> Nics and will physcially *replace* the NAT-Firewall with itself. The NAT
> Firewall will just collect dust on a shelf. In some situations they can be
> run side-by-side and in some situations they can be run back-to-back, and in
> some situations the RRAS box can do VPN with only one Nic,...but to me that
> is just an extra nusiance to have to babysit.
>
> <Internet>
> |
> [RRAS VPN box]
> |
> [Switch or Hub]
> / | \
> (gobs of machine plugged
> into the switch here)
>
> Now with the above in mind what exactly are you wanting to do? I'm not sure
> right now what details to ask for so you'll just have to think about it and
> give me the important details and not bury me with details I don't
> need,...and see what we can come up with.
>
> --
> Phillip Windell
> www.wandtv.com
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> "Dave Beanie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1496E7C2-7B6F-46FF-BD98-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > ok, long story but please read through
> >
> > I have a windows 2003 server, installed RAS, setup RAS, and I cannot VPN
> > into it, I keep getting error 800.
> > I cannot ping the server when I have RAS running, once I turn it off I can
> > ping the server.
> > I do not have any firewalls running, no anti virus
> > here is what i have done:
> >
> > opened several ports on router, 1723, 47-51, 3389, 500, still no
> > changed the static routes
> > went through manage servers and step by step on the help for setting up
> > ras
> > I have done several other things but cant remember..
> >
> > I have my laptop plugged into the router and the server is into it also, I
> > can vpn to its ip address and it doesnt give me error 800, but i cannot
> > ping
> > it
> > I cannot get out to the internet on the server,
> > I used to be able to until just recently
> >
> > I have a t-1 connection, and it comes in to the router and then plugs into
> > the server from there.
> > now I have another nic in the server for another network but that ip is at
> > 172.x.x.x, the one i have for this connection i have an ip at 192.168.x.x.
> > please give me any suggestions
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
>
>

 
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Phillip Windell
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      11-29-2007, 08:52 PM
Then you want this:

<Internet>
|
[RRAS VPN box]
|
[Switch or Hub]
/ | \
(gobs of machine plugged
into the switch here)

Get rid of the broadband router.
I have no idea what the thing called "Cisco" is there for or even what it
is.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------


"Dave Beanie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1FA242FD-8F08-4E71-B68C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> So I cannot use a router inbetween the internet and server?
> This is what is going on now,
> I reformatted trying to get this working.
>
> Internet
> |
> Router
> |
> Server Nic
> _____
> | | ---------- Server with Windows 2003 Server r2
> | |
> |____|
> |
> |
> Servers and workstations,
> including the above Server
> on the other internal nic
> |
> Cisco
> |
> Internet
>
> please let me knwo what you think
> thanks
>
>
>
> "Phillip Windell" wrote:
>
>> It is supposed to look like this:
>>
>> <Internet>
>> |
>> [NAT-Firewall]
>> |
>> [Switch or Hub]
>> / | \
>> (gobs of machine plugged
>> into the switch here)
>>
>> Many of the NAT-Firewalls have 4 or so ports in addition to the WAN port.
>> These are just the same thing as Switch ports,...it is just simply a
>> small
>> switch built into the same device,...but logically, in terms of network
>> design you have to look at it as if it was in a separate physical device.
>>
>> If you want to use an RRAS box for VPN Server,..then it will run with two
>> Nics and will physcially *replace* the NAT-Firewall with itself. The NAT
>> Firewall will just collect dust on a shelf. In some situations they can
>> be
>> run side-by-side and in some situations they can be run back-to-back, and
>> in
>> some situations the RRAS box can do VPN with only one Nic,...but to me
>> that
>> is just an extra nusiance to have to babysit.
>>
>> <Internet>
>> |
>> [RRAS VPN box]
>> |
>> [Switch or Hub]
>> / | \
>> (gobs of machine plugged
>> into the switch here)
>>
>> Now with the above in mind what exactly are you wanting to do? I'm not
>> sure
>> right now what details to ask for so you'll just have to think about it
>> and
>> give me the important details and not bury me with details I don't
>> need,...and see what we can come up with.
>>
>> --
>> Phillip Windell
>> www.wandtv.com
>>
>> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
>> Microsoft,
>> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dave Beanie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:1496E7C2-7B6F-46FF-BD98-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > ok, long story but please read through
>> >
>> > I have a windows 2003 server, installed RAS, setup RAS, and I cannot
>> > VPN
>> > into it, I keep getting error 800.
>> > I cannot ping the server when I have RAS running, once I turn it off I
>> > can
>> > ping the server.
>> > I do not have any firewalls running, no anti virus
>> > here is what i have done:
>> >
>> > opened several ports on router, 1723, 47-51, 3389, 500, still no
>> > changed the static routes
>> > went through manage servers and step by step on the help for setting up
>> > ras
>> > I have done several other things but cant remember..
>> >
>> > I have my laptop plugged into the router and the server is into it
>> > also, I
>> > can vpn to its ip address and it doesnt give me error 800, but i cannot
>> > ping
>> > it
>> > I cannot get out to the internet on the server,
>> > I used to be able to until just recently
>> >
>> > I have a t-1 connection, and it comes in to the router and then plugs
>> > into
>> > the server from there.
>> > now I have another nic in the server for another network but that ip is
>> > at
>> > 172.x.x.x, the one i have for this connection i have an ip at
>> > 192.168.x.x.
>> > please give me any suggestions
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >

>>
>>
>>



 
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