Reserving copper overlay

Help,

I live on a new housing development which is served by a TPON'd local
exchange @ Thornton Cleveleys in Lancashire, meaning I cannot receive
a broadband service. My neighbour, a BT engineer, has a working
service due to being transferred onto a copper line using an overlay.
A work colleague, who lives on the same development has managed to do
the same, although he claims he just signed up with Wanadoo and got
the service with no hint of a problem.
I have been advised by BT to 'try signing up every couple of months',
and maybe I'll get lucky. I've been trying this since last year and
am getting fed up of getting told my line cannot support the service.
I also have a nice collection of ADSL modems, which BT insist on
sending before they cancel my order, and then don't seem to want back.
I have recently contacted BT, due to an intermittent fault on my
phone line, meaning I cannot get a dial tone and therefore cannot
connect to the net, or make any phone calls! I asked the call taker
if it was possible to 'reserve' the next copper pair available at my
exchange, to be told that it wasn't..... How on earth do I proceed
with this? It would appear to be a vicious circle of on line ordering
and subsequent cancellations by BT, with no common sense method of
getting out of the loop. This is all the more frustrating knowing
I've got neighbours a stones throw away getting a massively quicker
service. Anyone who can assist me will go on my Xmas card list
immediately.

Thanks.

get him to go wireless and share his connection and share his cost....

"douthers" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> Help,
>
> I live on a new housing development which is served by a TPON'd local
> exchange @ Thornton Cleveleys in Lancashire, meaning I cannot receive
> a broadband service. My neighbour, a BT engineer, has a working
> service due to being transferred onto a copper line using an overlay.
> A work colleague, who lives on the same development has managed to do
> the same, although he claims he just signed up with Wanadoo and got
> the service with no hint of a problem.
> I have been advised by BT to 'try signing up every couple of months',
> and maybe I'll get lucky. I've been trying this since last year and
> am getting fed up of getting told my line cannot support the service.
> I also have a nice collection of ADSL modems, which BT insist on
> sending before they cancel my order, and then don't seem to want back.
> I have recently contacted BT, due to an intermittent fault on my
> phone line, meaning I cannot get a dial tone and therefore cannot
> connect to the net, or make any phone calls! I asked the call taker
> if it was possible to 'reserve' the next copper pair available at my
> exchange, to be told that it wasn't..... How on earth do I proceed
> with this? It would appear to be a vicious circle of on line ordering
> and subsequent cancellations by BT, with no common sense method of
> getting out of the loop. This is all the more frustrating knowing
> I've got neighbours a stones throw away getting a massively quicker
> service. Anyone who can assist me will go on my Xmas card list
> immediately.
>
> Thanks.
>

"Cliff Goldsmith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:d3opnp$7g8$1
@news6.svr.pol.co.uk:

> get him to go wireless and share his connection and share his cost....

Or run a cable, cheaper and far more reliable.

--
Colin
*Drop DEAD from the email address to reply*

> My neighbour, a BT engineer, has a working
> service due to being transferred onto a copper line using an
overlay.

------------------------------------------------------------

BT no longer has any engineers. Mrs Thatcher & Co made them all
redundent. Non-profit making.

They only have Modgers.

A Modger is somebody they send round to fix your dish washer and you
end up by buying a new one.

Reg Edwards wrote:
>> My neighbour, a BT engineer, has a working
>> service due to being transferred onto a copper line using an overlay.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> BT no longer has any engineers. Mrs Thatcher & Co made them all
> redundent. Non-profit making.
>
> They only have Modgers.
>
> A Modger is somebody they send round to fix your dish washer and you
> end up by buying a new one.

Many a true
word.............................................. ...................

(E-Mail Removed) (douthers) wrote in news:8af05fd3.0504150808.1425bbe7
@posting.google.com:

> My neighbour, a BT engineer,

Just thought - can't your neighbour help out?

--
Colin
*Drop DEAD from the email address to reply*

cw <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<Xns9639D2095680Bcwfidei@212.159.2.86>...
> (E-Mail Removed) (douthers) wrote in news:8af05fd3.0504150808.1425bbe7
> @posting.google.com:
>
> > My neighbour, a BT engineer,
>
> Just thought - can't your neighbour help out?

Tried that and still no joy. Seems engineers are in the same boat as
everyone else and can't pull strings! I can't believe there's no way
of reserving a copper pair.

On 16 Apr 2005 01:56:44 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) (douthers) wrote:

>cw <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<Xns9639D2095680Bcwfidei@212.159.2.86>...
>> (E-Mail Removed) (douthers) wrote in news:8af05fd3.0504150808.1425bbe7
>> @posting.google.com:
>>
>> > My neighbour, a BT engineer,
>>
>> Just thought - can't your neighbour help out?
>
>Tried that and still no joy. Seems engineers are in the same boat as
>everyone else and can't pull strings! I can't believe there's no way
>of reserving a copper pair.

I believe that copper pairs exist in TPON areas that were originally
in place to carry Redcare alarm services. Why not try ordering a
Redcare alarm service that will have to be supplied on copper and then
putting adsl on the line. Redcare is now compatible with adsl anyway
and once the service is up and running cancel the alarm service off


Jasper

COPPER OVERLAY ?

can anyone explain this please ?

thanks



"jasper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 16 Apr 2005 01:56:44 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) (douthers) wrote:
>
> >cw <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:<Xns9639D2095680Bcwfidei@212.159.2.86>...
> >> (E-Mail Removed) (douthers) wrote in
news:8af05fd3.0504150808.1425bbe7
> >> @posting.google.com:
> >>
> >> > My neighbour, a BT engineer,
> >>
> >> Just thought - can't your neighbour help out?
> >
> >Tried that and still no joy. Seems engineers are in the same boat as
> >everyone else and can't pull strings! I can't believe there's no way
> >of reserving a copper pair.
>
> I believe that copper pairs exist in TPON areas that were originally
> in place to carry Redcare alarm services. Why not try ordering a
> Redcare alarm service that will have to be supplied on copper and then
> putting adsl on the line. Redcare is now compatible with adsl anyway
> and once the service is up and running cancel the alarm service off
>
>
> Jasper
>
>

"zero" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4261a5cf$0$2595$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> COPPER OVERLAY ?
>
> can anyone explain this please ?
>
> thanks
>

Have a look at
http://217.155.161.234/TechDocs/Tele...l_and_tpon.htm