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Smooter
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Hadi,
I am not sure what all your problem is, but the 169.x.x.x IP that is being assigned to your "Internet" NIC is the Windows Networking Automagically assigned IP. That is to say that it will assign an automatic 169.254.x.x IP to any NIC that is set to obtain an IP from DHCP but is unable to contact a DHCP Server. Does your ADSL Modem provide DHCP services? I would imagine that it does, however it may be disabled. I am not sure why you added the third NIC (it appears to be for a dial up adapter, possibly a custom SLIP/PPP modem?) or if it just "showed up". I would probably do the following: 1) Make sure your ADSL modem has DHCP and is enabled 2) Make sure your "internet" NIC is set for DHCP and then restart the machine. If it still gets a 169.254.x.x address, then find out what the default DHCP scope is for the ADSL modem and assign a static IP to the Internet NIC in that range (i.e. 192.168.10.x). 3) Remove the SLIP/PPP device if you don't need it 4) Re-enable ICS on the "Internet" NIC Remember: If the ADSL modem/router provides DHCP then it is also performing NAT for your outbound traffic. Additionally, if you have enabled ICS on your server and placed it between your clients and the Internet then ICS is also doing NAT...Therefore your Natting Nat! Not illegal, and your probably doing it so you can manage internet access for your users. However, ICS doesn't provide much "features" for protection or filtering, etc. But for a small office it should suffice. Good Luck, and I hope this helps! Regards, Tim >-----Original Message----- >Reposting this item ... > >Finally I had the chance to revisit this problem, so far we have been using >ICS because of the problem that I had with NAT. Unfortunately I still can't >get NAT to work ![]() > >I think I have more information that someone here may have some answer about >it. > >First I have 2 Network Card (I call them Internet and Intranet) AND an ADSL >modem. Intranet connect to the hub while Internet is connected to the ADSL >modem. > >For Intranet I set the IP to: 192.168.0.1, Default Gateway: N/A > >For Internet --> Automatically get IP > >ADSL Modem --> Automatically get IP. > >Now I have three network interfaces. The interesting thing is for the >Internet network card Windows 2003 automatically assign a local IP because >there is no information about it from the ISP, while the ADSL Modem is the >one that has a 'public' IP. Currently Windows assign 169.254.33.85 >SubnetMask: 255.255.0.0 to this Intranet card. > >so the IP config looks something like this: > >C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all > >Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sydney2003 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : syd.x.com > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : syd.x.com > x.com > >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection - Intranet: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast >Ethernet NIC #2 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 > >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection - Internet: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast >Ethernet NIC > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.33.85 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > >PPP adapter iiNet: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > >I tried all sort of combination on the Default Gateway for Intranet and the >routing table with no luck so far. Please any suggestion? > >Thanks, > >Hadi > > >"Bill Grant" <bill_grant at bigpond dot com> wrote in message >news:(E-Mail Removed)... >> The default route of your server must be out to the Internet. You can do >> this by setting the default gateway of your server's "public" NIC to be >the >> IP address of your ADSL modem/router, or you can set it from the RRAS >> console using the static route wizard. >> >> Either way, you should end up with a default route in your routing >table >> pointing to the ADSL router's private IP. Something like 0.0.0.0 >> 0.0.0.0 192.168.x.x >> >> "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> news:(E-Mail Removed)... >> > Default gate way 0.0.0.0 is definatley a problem. >> > Do you have a static IP for the network adapter for Internet connection? >> If >> > yes then try giving that IP as >> > gateway. >> > >> > Sharad >> > "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)... >> > > Sharad, >> > > >> > > Thanks for you help but I still can't get NAT working on my box. I was >> > > missing the static route before, added that in but still the same >issue, >> > DNS >> > > resolve but no Internet. I notice however that my ISP doesn't give me >a >> > > default gateway setting. When I did ipconfig /all on my Windows 2003 >> > server >> > > it listed the default gateway for the PPP adapter as 0.0.0.0 and the >> > default >> > > gateway in my network card for the ADSL modem is blank. >> > > >> > > So for the static route I added in the default gateway as 0.0.0.0 is >> this >> > > the problem? Help my NAT is still not working .. >> > > >> > > Thanks for your help >> > > >> > > Hadi >> > > "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)... >> > > > 1. For the network card , for local switch the TCP/IP setting should >> be >> > as >> > > > under. IP address (static): 192.168.0.1 >> > > > Default Gate Way: NONE. (NO Default Gate Way.) >> > > > >> > > > 2. For network card for to ADSL modem: >> > > > IP address: what ever.it is >> > > > Degault Gateway.. the Default Gate way IP given by your ISP. >> > > > >> > > > 3. The NAT setting should be as under. >> > > > Click on IGMP tab: >> > > > Network Card for local switched should be set as Router .. >Querier >> > > > Network Card for ADSL Modem shold be set as Proxy .... Up >> > > > >> > > > 4. Static Route: >> > > > Static Route should be added for Network Card for ADSL Modem >> > > > and the setting should be as under: >> > > > Destination Adrress: 0.0.0.0 >> > > > Netwrok Mask: 0.0.0.0 >> > > > (Setting above two to 0.0.0.0 will allow routing to >> > > > any destination.) >> > > > Gate Way - The Default Gate Way given by your ISP. >> > > > >> > > > The client machines should use Default Gate Way: 192.168.0.1 >> > > > (You can set this in DHCP Option too, so the client will get the >> > > > default gateway through DHCP , and on client machine leave the >> > > > default gateway blank.) >> > > > >> > > > This is the basic setting, allowing access to all the clients. >> > > > For specific settings, like blocking clients, or allowing only >> > > > specific destnations etc. you will have to configure the routing >> > > > table, static route accordingly. >> > > > >> > > > Sharad >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message >> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)... >> > > > > Hello, >> > > > > >> > > > > I have a server which is running as a DHCP server, a local DNS >> server >> > to >> > > > > serve local network (and forward to my ISP server for unanswered >> > > queries). >> > > > > This server also serves as the primary box to connect to the >> internet. >> > I >> > > > > have 2 network cards, one which is connected to the ADSL modem and >> > > another >> > > > > to the local switch. >> > > > > >> > > > > I followed the wizard to setup NAT and everything works without a >> > > glitch. >> > > > > From client computers I can do a name lookup given a name get the >IP >> > > > address >> > > > > even for external address, this showing the DNS is working fine, >but >> > > from >> > > > > client computer I can't browse to external sites. Previously using >> ICS >> > > > > client computer can use the Internet with no problem, so I know >that >> > the >> > > > > network/DHCP settings are all fine. But when I switch to NAT the >> > problem >> > > > > occur. >> > > > > >> > > > > Does anyone has any idea? >> > > > > >> > > > > thanks, >> > > > > >> > > > > Hadi >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > > >. > |
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Hadi
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"Smooter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0b4a01c3da22$218fa0b0$(E-Mail Removed)... > Hadi, > > I am not sure what all your problem is, but the 169.x.x.x > IP that is being assigned to your "Internet" NIC is the > Windows Networking Automagically assigned IP. Yes since my Internet NIC is connected to my ADSL modem I assigned automatic IP address and since there is no DHCP to contact Windows assign that IP to it. > > Does your ADSL Modem provide DHCP services? I would > imagine that it does, however it may be disabled. I don't think so since it's a normal ADSL modem that doesn't provide any routing. > I am not sure why you added the third NIC (it appears to > be for a dial up adapter, possibly a custom SLIP/PPP > modem?) or if it just "showed up". Correct, the third NIC is the dial-up adapter. That's the one that I use to connect to the Internet (ie: double click .. enter user name/password etc, isn't that the Windows way to do it?) However I'm not trying to do ICS since I'm trying to set up VPN for the remote user, VPN doesn't allow ICS/ICF to be turned on and it needs to use RRAS instead. Maybe I should investigate why I have three NIC showing up ... Thanks > > I would probably do the following: > > 1) Make sure your ADSL modem has DHCP and is enabled > 2) Make sure your "internet" NIC is set for DHCP and then > restart the machine. If it still gets a 169.254.x.x > address, then find out what the default DHCP scope is for > the ADSL modem and assign a static IP to the Internet NIC > in that range (i.e. 192.168.10.x). > 3) Remove the SLIP/PPP device if you don't need it > 4) Re-enable ICS on the "Internet" NIC > > Remember: If the ADSL modem/router provides DHCP then it > is also performing NAT for your outbound traffic. > Additionally, if you have enabled ICS on your server and > placed it between your clients and the Internet then ICS > is also doing NAT...Therefore your Natting Nat! Not > illegal, and your probably doing it so you can manage > internet access for your users. However, ICS doesn't > provide much "features" for protection or filtering, > etc. But for a small office it should suffice. > > Good Luck, and I hope this helps! > > Regards, > > Tim > > >-----Original Message----- > >Reposting this item ... > > > >Finally I had the chance to revisit this problem, so far > we have been using > >ICS because of the problem that I had with NAT. > Unfortunately I still can't > >get NAT to work ![]() > > > >I think I have more information that someone here may > have some answer about > >it. > > > >First I have 2 Network Card (I call them Internet and > Intranet) AND an ADSL > >modem. Intranet connect to the hub while Internet is > connected to the ADSL > >modem. > > > >For Intranet I set the IP to: 192.168.0.1, Default > Gateway: N/A > > > >For Internet --> Automatically get IP > > > >ADSL Modem --> Automatically get IP. > > > >Now I have three network interfaces. The interesting > thing is for the > >Internet network card Windows 2003 automatically assign > a local IP because > >there is no information about it from the ISP, while the > ADSL Modem is the > >one that has a 'public' IP. Currently Windows assign > 169.254.33.85 > >SubnetMask: 255.255.0.0 to this Intranet card. > > > >so the IP config looks something like this: > > > >C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all > > > >Windows IP Configuration > > > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sydney2003 > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : syd.x.com > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : syd.x.com > > x.com > > > >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection - Intranet: > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 > Family PCI Fast > >Ethernet NIC #2 > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 > > > >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection - Internet: > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 > Family PCI Fast > >Ethernet NIC > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > > Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.33.85 > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > > > >PPP adapter iiNet: > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) > Interface > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > > > >I tried all sort of combination on the Default Gateway > for Intranet and the > >routing table with no luck so far. Please any suggestion? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Hadi > > > > > >"Bill Grant" <bill_grant at bigpond dot com> wrote in > message > >news:(E-Mail Removed)... > >> The default route of your server must be out to the > Internet. You can do > >> this by setting the default gateway of your > server's "public" NIC to be > >the > >> IP address of your ADSL modem/router, or you can set > it from the RRAS > >> console using the static route wizard. > >> > >> Either way, you should end up with a default route > in your routing > >table > >> pointing to the ADSL router's private IP. Something > like 0.0.0.0 > >> 0.0.0.0 192.168.x.x > >> > >> "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> news:(E-Mail Removed)... > >> > Default gate way 0.0.0.0 is definatley a problem. > >> > Do you have a static IP for the network adapter for > Internet connection? > >> If > >> > yes then try giving that IP as > >> > gateway. > >> > > >> > Sharad > >> > "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > >> > > Sharad, > >> > > > >> > > Thanks for you help but I still can't get NAT > working on my box. I was > >> > > missing the static route before, added that in but > still the same > >issue, > >> > DNS > >> > > resolve but no Internet. I notice however that my > ISP doesn't give me > >a > >> > > default gateway setting. When I did ipconfig /all > on my Windows 2003 > >> > server > >> > > it listed the default gateway for the PPP adapter > as 0.0.0.0 and the > >> > default > >> > > gateway in my network card for the ADSL modem is > blank. > >> > > > >> > > So for the static route I added in the default > gateway as 0.0.0.0 is > >> this > >> > > the problem? Help my NAT is still not working .. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks for your help > >> > > > >> > > Hadi > >> > > "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > >> > > > 1. For the network card , for local switch the > TCP/IP setting should > >> be > >> > as > >> > > > under. IP address (static): 192.168.0.1 > >> > > > Default Gate Way: NONE. (NO Default Gate Way.) > >> > > > > >> > > > 2. For network card for to ADSL modem: > >> > > > IP address: what ever.it is > >> > > > Degault Gateway.. the Default Gate way IP given > by your ISP. > >> > > > > >> > > > 3. The NAT setting should be as under. > >> > > > Click on IGMP tab: > >> > > > Network Card for local switched should be set > as Router .. > >Querier > >> > > > Network Card for ADSL Modem shold be set as > Proxy .... Up > >> > > > > >> > > > 4. Static Route: > >> > > > Static Route should be added for Network Card > for ADSL Modem > >> > > > and the setting should be as under: > >> > > > Destination Adrress: 0.0.0.0 > >> > > > Netwrok Mask: 0.0.0.0 > >> > > > (Setting above two to 0.0.0.0 will allow > routing to > >> > > > any destination.) > >> > > > Gate Way - The Default Gate Way given by your > ISP. > >> > > > > >> > > > The client machines should use Default Gate > Way: 192.168.0.1 > >> > > > (You can set this in DHCP Option too, so the > client will get the > >> > > > default gateway through DHCP , and on client > machine leave the > >> > > > default gateway blank.) > >> > > > > >> > > > This is the basic setting, allowing access to > all the clients. > >> > > > For specific settings, like blocking clients, or > allowing only > >> > > > specific destnations etc. you will have to > configure the routing > >> > > > table, static route accordingly. > >> > > > > >> > > > Sharad > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > >> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > >> > > > > Hello, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I have a server which is running as a DHCP > server, a local DNS > >> server > >> > to > >> > > > > serve local network (and forward to my ISP > server for unanswered > >> > > queries). > >> > > > > This server also serves as the primary box to > connect to the > >> internet. > >> > I > >> > > > > have 2 network cards, one which is connected > to the ADSL modem and > >> > > another > >> > > > > to the local switch. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I followed the wizard to setup NAT and > everything works without a > >> > > glitch. > >> > > > > From client computers I can do a name lookup > given a name get the > >IP > >> > > > address > >> > > > > even for external address, this showing the > DNS is working fine, > >but > >> > > from > >> > > > > client computer I can't browse to external > sites. Previously using > >> ICS > >> > > > > client computer can use the Internet with no > problem, so I know > >that > >> > the > >> > > > > network/DHCP settings are all fine. But when I > switch to NAT the > >> > problem > >> > > > > occur. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Does anyone has any idea? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > thanks, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hadi > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >. > > |
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Hadi
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Hmm finally I found a solution ... but this involve using a RASPPPoE. I use
RASPPPoE and bind that to my "Internet" network card and unbind the TCP/IP there. I created a demand dial to use that network card to 'dial' to my ISP. This solution works fine and now I have 2 NIC shown on the ipconfig. BUT now I have problem setting up VPN because in the wizard it requires to have 2 network cards which are bound with TCP/IP protocol! Arggh why does this always happen to me! Does anyone has a good guide on setting the VPN manually? Thanks Hadi "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... > "Smooter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:0b4a01c3da22$218fa0b0$(E-Mail Removed)... > > Hadi, > > > > I am not sure what all your problem is, but the 169.x.x.x > > IP that is being assigned to your "Internet" NIC is the > > Windows Networking Automagically assigned IP. > > Yes since my Internet NIC is connected to my ADSL modem I assigned automatic > IP address and since there is no DHCP to contact Windows assign that IP to > it. > > > > Does your ADSL Modem provide DHCP services? I would > > imagine that it does, however it may be disabled. > > I don't think so since it's a normal ADSL modem that doesn't provide any > routing. > > > I am not sure why you added the third NIC (it appears to > > be for a dial up adapter, possibly a custom SLIP/PPP > > modem?) or if it just "showed up". > > Correct, the third NIC is the dial-up adapter. That's the one that I use to > connect to the Internet (ie: double click .. enter user name/password etc, > isn't that the Windows way to do it?) > > However I'm not trying to do ICS since I'm trying to set up VPN for the > remote user, VPN doesn't allow ICS/ICF to be turned on and it needs to use > RRAS instead. Maybe I should investigate why I have three NIC showing up .... > > Thanks > > > > > I would probably do the following: > > > > 1) Make sure your ADSL modem has DHCP and is enabled > > 2) Make sure your "internet" NIC is set for DHCP and then > > restart the machine. If it still gets a 169.254.x.x > > address, then find out what the default DHCP scope is for > > the ADSL modem and assign a static IP to the Internet NIC > > in that range (i.e. 192.168.10.x). > > 3) Remove the SLIP/PPP device if you don't need it > > 4) Re-enable ICS on the "Internet" NIC > > > > Remember: If the ADSL modem/router provides DHCP then it > > is also performing NAT for your outbound traffic. > > Additionally, if you have enabled ICS on your server and > > placed it between your clients and the Internet then ICS > > is also doing NAT...Therefore your Natting Nat! Not > > illegal, and your probably doing it so you can manage > > internet access for your users. However, ICS doesn't > > provide much "features" for protection or filtering, > > etc. But for a small office it should suffice. > > > > Good Luck, and I hope this helps! > > > > Regards, > > > > Tim > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >Reposting this item ... > > > > > >Finally I had the chance to revisit this problem, so far > > we have been using > > >ICS because of the problem that I had with NAT. > > Unfortunately I still can't > > >get NAT to work ![]() > > > > > >I think I have more information that someone here may > > have some answer about > > >it. > > > > > >First I have 2 Network Card (I call them Internet and > > Intranet) AND an ADSL > > >modem. Intranet connect to the hub while Internet is > > connected to the ADSL > > >modem. > > > > > >For Intranet I set the IP to: 192.168.0.1, Default > > Gateway: N/A > > > > > >For Internet --> Automatically get IP > > > > > >ADSL Modem --> Automatically get IP. > > > > > >Now I have three network interfaces. The interesting > > thing is for the > > >Internet network card Windows 2003 automatically assign > > a local IP because > > >there is no information about it from the ISP, while the > > ADSL Modem is the > > >one that has a 'public' IP. Currently Windows assign > > 169.254.33.85 > > >SubnetMask: 255.255.0.0 to this Intranet card. > > > > > >so the IP config looks something like this: > > > > > >C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all > > > > > >Windows IP Configuration > > > > > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sydney2003 > > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : syd.x.com > > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes > > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : syd.x.com > > > x.com > > > > > >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection - Intranet: > > > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 > > Family PCI Fast > > >Ethernet NIC #2 > > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 > > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 > > > > > >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection - Internet: > > > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 > > Family PCI Fast > > >Ethernet NIC > > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > > > Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.33.85 > > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 > > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > > > > > >PPP adapter iiNet: > > > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) > > Interface > > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 > > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy > > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > > > > > >I tried all sort of combination on the Default Gateway > > for Intranet and the > > >routing table with no luck so far. Please any suggestion? > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Hadi > > > > > > > > >"Bill Grant" <bill_grant at bigpond dot com> wrote in > > message > > >news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > >> The default route of your server must be out to the > > Internet. You can do > > >> this by setting the default gateway of your > > server's "public" NIC to be > > >the > > >> IP address of your ADSL modem/router, or you can set > > it from the RRAS > > >> console using the static route wizard. > > >> > > >> Either way, you should end up with a default route > > in your routing > > >table > > >> pointing to the ADSL router's private IP. Something > > like 0.0.0.0 > > >> 0.0.0.0 192.168.x.x > > >> > > >> "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > >> news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > >> > Default gate way 0.0.0.0 is definatley a problem. > > >> > Do you have a static IP for the network adapter for > > Internet connection? > > >> If > > >> > yes then try giving that IP as > > >> > gateway. > > >> > > > >> > Sharad > > >> > "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > >> > > Sharad, > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks for you help but I still can't get NAT > > working on my box. I was > > >> > > missing the static route before, added that in but > > still the same > > >issue, > > >> > DNS > > >> > > resolve but no Internet. I notice however that my > > ISP doesn't give me > > >a > > >> > > default gateway setting. When I did ipconfig /all > > on my Windows 2003 > > >> > server > > >> > > it listed the default gateway for the PPP adapter > > as 0.0.0.0 and the > > >> > default > > >> > > gateway in my network card for the ADSL modem is > > blank. > > >> > > > > >> > > So for the static route I added in the default > > gateway as 0.0.0.0 is > > >> this > > >> > > the problem? Help my NAT is still not working .. > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks for your help > > >> > > > > >> > > Hadi > > >> > > "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > >> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > >> > > > 1. For the network card , for local switch the > > TCP/IP setting should > > >> be > > >> > as > > >> > > > under. IP address (static): 192.168.0.1 > > >> > > > Default Gate Way: NONE. (NO Default Gate Way.) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 2. For network card for to ADSL modem: > > >> > > > IP address: what ever.it is > > >> > > > Degault Gateway.. the Default Gate way IP given > > by your ISP. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 3. The NAT setting should be as under. > > >> > > > Click on IGMP tab: > > >> > > > Network Card for local switched should be set > > as Router .. > > >Querier > > >> > > > Network Card for ADSL Modem shold be set as > > Proxy .... Up > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 4. Static Route: > > >> > > > Static Route should be added for Network Card > > for ADSL Modem > > >> > > > and the setting should be as under: > > >> > > > Destination Adrress: 0.0.0.0 > > >> > > > Netwrok Mask: 0.0.0.0 > > >> > > > (Setting above two to 0.0.0.0 will allow > > routing to > > >> > > > any destination.) > > >> > > > Gate Way - The Default Gate Way given by your > > ISP. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The client machines should use Default Gate > > Way: 192.168.0.1 > > >> > > > (You can set this in DHCP Option too, so the > > client will get the > > >> > > > default gateway through DHCP , and on client > > machine leave the > > >> > > > default gateway blank.) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > This is the basic setting, allowing access to > > all the clients. > > >> > > > For specific settings, like blocking clients, or > > allowing only > > >> > > > specific destnations etc. you will have to > > configure the routing > > >> > > > table, static route accordingly. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Sharad > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > >> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > >> > > > > Hello, > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > I have a server which is running as a DHCP > > server, a local DNS > > >> server > > >> > to > > >> > > > > serve local network (and forward to my ISP > > server for unanswered > > >> > > queries). > > >> > > > > This server also serves as the primary box to > > connect to the > > >> internet. > > >> > I > > >> > > > > have 2 network cards, one which is connected > > to the ADSL modem and > > >> > > another > > >> > > > > to the local switch. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > I followed the wizard to setup NAT and > > everything works without a > > >> > > glitch. > > >> > > > > From client computers I can do a name lookup > > given a name get the > > >IP > > >> > > > address > > >> > > > > even for external address, this showing the > > DNS is working fine, > > >but > > >> > > from > > >> > > > > client computer I can't browse to external > > sites. Previously using > > >> ICS > > >> > > > > client computer can use the Internet with no > > problem, so I know > > >that > > >> > the > > >> > > > > network/DHCP settings are all fine. But when I > > switch to NAT the > > >> > problem > > >> > > > > occur. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Does anyone has any idea? > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > thanks, > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Hadi > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >. > > > > > |
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You do not need two NICs to set up a VPN server. Use the remote access
server option in the wizard and accept the VPN option. (You can in fact set up VPN on a server which is not even connected to the Internet! You can make a VPN connection to it from other machines on the LAN, using the server's LAN IP). "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:#(E-Mail Removed)... > Hmm finally I found a solution ... but this involve using a RASPPPoE. I use > RASPPPoE and bind that to my "Internet" network card and unbind the TCP/IP > there. I created a demand dial to use that network card to 'dial' to my ISP. > This solution works fine and now I have 2 NIC shown on the ipconfig. > > BUT now I have problem setting up VPN because in the wizard it requires to > have 2 network cards which are bound with TCP/IP protocol! Arggh why does > this always happen to me! > > Does anyone has a good guide on setting the VPN manually? > > Thanks > > Hadi > > "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > "Smooter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > news:0b4a01c3da22$218fa0b0$(E-Mail Removed)... > > > Hadi, > > > > > > I am not sure what all your problem is, but the 169.x.x.x > > > IP that is being assigned to your "Internet" NIC is the > > > Windows Networking Automagically assigned IP. > > > > Yes since my Internet NIC is connected to my ADSL modem I assigned > automatic > > IP address and since there is no DHCP to contact Windows assign that IP to > > it. > > > > > > Does your ADSL Modem provide DHCP services? I would > > > imagine that it does, however it may be disabled. > > > > I don't think so since it's a normal ADSL modem that doesn't provide any > > routing. > > > > > I am not sure why you added the third NIC (it appears to > > > be for a dial up adapter, possibly a custom SLIP/PPP > > > modem?) or if it just "showed up". > > > > Correct, the third NIC is the dial-up adapter. That's the one that I use > to > > connect to the Internet (ie: double click .. enter user name/password etc, > > isn't that the Windows way to do it?) > > > > However I'm not trying to do ICS since I'm trying to set up VPN for the > > remote user, VPN doesn't allow ICS/ICF to be turned on and it needs to use > > RRAS instead. Maybe I should investigate why I have three NIC showing up > ... > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > I would probably do the following: > > > > > > 1) Make sure your ADSL modem has DHCP and is enabled > > > 2) Make sure your "internet" NIC is set for DHCP and then > > > restart the machine. If it still gets a 169.254.x.x > > > address, then find out what the default DHCP scope is for > > > the ADSL modem and assign a static IP to the Internet NIC > > > in that range (i.e. 192.168.10.x). > > > 3) Remove the SLIP/PPP device if you don't need it > > > 4) Re-enable ICS on the "Internet" NIC > > > > > > Remember: If the ADSL modem/router provides DHCP then it > > > is also performing NAT for your outbound traffic. > > > Additionally, if you have enabled ICS on your server and > > > placed it between your clients and the Internet then ICS > > > is also doing NAT...Therefore your Natting Nat! Not > > > illegal, and your probably doing it so you can manage > > > internet access for your users. However, ICS doesn't > > > provide much "features" for protection or filtering, > > > etc. But for a small office it should suffice. > > > > > > Good Luck, and I hope this helps! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >Reposting this item ... > > > > > > > >Finally I had the chance to revisit this problem, so far > > > we have been using > > > >ICS because of the problem that I had with NAT. > > > Unfortunately I still can't > > > >get NAT to work ![]() > > > > > > > >I think I have more information that someone here may > > > have some answer about > > > >it. > > > > > > > >First I have 2 Network Card (I call them Internet and > > > Intranet) AND an ADSL > > > >modem. Intranet connect to the hub while Internet is > > > connected to the ADSL > > > >modem. > > > > > > > >For Intranet I set the IP to: 192.168.0.1, Default > > > Gateway: N/A > > > > > > > >For Internet --> Automatically get IP > > > > > > > >ADSL Modem --> Automatically get IP. > > > > > > > >Now I have three network interfaces. The interesting > > > thing is for the > > > >Internet network card Windows 2003 automatically assign > > > a local IP because > > > >there is no information about it from the ISP, while the > > > ADSL Modem is the > > > >one that has a 'public' IP. Currently Windows assign > > > 169.254.33.85 > > > >SubnetMask: 255.255.0.0 to this Intranet card. > > > > > > > >so the IP config looks something like this: > > > > > > > >C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all > > > > > > > >Windows IP Configuration > > > > > > > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sydney2003 > > > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : syd.x.com > > > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > > > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes > > > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : syd.x.com > > > > x.com > > > > > > > >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection - Intranet: > > > > > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 > > > Family PCI Fast > > > >Ethernet NIC #2 > > > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 > > > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > > > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 > > > > > > > >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection - Internet: > > > > > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 > > > Family PCI Fast > > > >Ethernet NIC > > > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > > > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > > > > Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.33.85 > > > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 > > > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > > > > > > > >PPP adapter iiNet: > > > > > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) > > > Interface > > > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 > > > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy > > > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > > > > > > > >I tried all sort of combination on the Default Gateway > > > for Intranet and the > > > >routing table with no luck so far. Please any suggestion? > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > >Hadi > > > > > > > > > > > >"Bill Grant" <bill_grant at bigpond dot com> wrote in > > > message > > > >news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > > >> The default route of your server must be out to the > > > Internet. You can do > > > >> this by setting the default gateway of your > > > server's "public" NIC to be > > > >the > > > >> IP address of your ADSL modem/router, or you can set > > > it from the RRAS > > > >> console using the static route wizard. > > > >> > > > >> Either way, you should end up with a default route > > > in your routing > > > >table > > > >> pointing to the ADSL router's private IP. Something > > > like 0.0.0.0 > > > >> 0.0.0.0 192.168.x.x > > > >> > > > >> "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > > >> news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > > >> > Default gate way 0.0.0.0 is definatley a problem. > > > >> > Do you have a static IP for the network adapter for > > > Internet connection? > > > >> If > > > >> > yes then try giving that IP as > > > >> > gateway. > > > >> > > > > >> > Sharad > > > >> > "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > > >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > > >> > > Sharad, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Thanks for you help but I still can't get NAT > > > working on my box. I was > > > >> > > missing the static route before, added that in but > > > still the same > > > >issue, > > > >> > DNS > > > >> > > resolve but no Internet. I notice however that my > > > ISP doesn't give me > > > >a > > > >> > > default gateway setting. When I did ipconfig /all > > > on my Windows 2003 > > > >> > server > > > >> > > it listed the default gateway for the PPP adapter > > > as 0.0.0.0 and the > > > >> > default > > > >> > > gateway in my network card for the ADSL modem is > > > blank. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > So for the static route I added in the default > > > gateway as 0.0.0.0 is > > > >> this > > > >> > > the problem? Help my NAT is still not working .. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Thanks for your help > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hadi > > > >> > > "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > > >> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > > >> > > > 1. For the network card , for local switch the > > > TCP/IP setting should > > > >> be > > > >> > as > > > >> > > > under. IP address (static): 192.168.0.1 > > > >> > > > Default Gate Way: NONE. (NO Default Gate Way.) > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 2. For network card for to ADSL modem: > > > >> > > > IP address: what ever.it is > > > >> > > > Degault Gateway.. the Default Gate way IP given > > > by your ISP. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 3. The NAT setting should be as under. > > > >> > > > Click on IGMP tab: > > > >> > > > Network Card for local switched should be set > > > as Router .. > > > >Querier > > > >> > > > Network Card for ADSL Modem shold be set as > > > Proxy .... Up > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 4. Static Route: > > > >> > > > Static Route should be added for Network Card > > > for ADSL Modem > > > >> > > > and the setting should be as under: > > > >> > > > Destination Adrress: 0.0.0.0 > > > >> > > > Netwrok Mask: 0.0.0.0 > > > >> > > > (Setting above two to 0.0.0.0 will allow > > > routing to > > > >> > > > any destination.) > > > >> > > > Gate Way - The Default Gate Way given by your > > > ISP. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > The client machines should use Default Gate > > > Way: 192.168.0.1 > > > >> > > > (You can set this in DHCP Option too, so the > > > client will get the > > > >> > > > default gateway through DHCP , and on client > > > machine leave the > > > >> > > > default gateway blank.) > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > This is the basic setting, allowing access to > > > all the clients. > > > >> > > > For specific settings, like blocking clients, or > > > allowing only > > > >> > > > specific destnations etc. you will have to > > > configure the routing > > > >> > > > table, static route accordingly. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Sharad > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > "Hadi" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > > >> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > > >> > > > > Hello, > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > I have a server which is running as a DHCP > > > server, a local DNS > > > >> server > > > >> > to > > > >> > > > > serve local network (and forward to my ISP > > > server for unanswered > > > >> > > queries). > > > >> > > > > This server also serves as the primary box to > > > connect to the > > > >> internet. > > > >> > I > > > >> > > > > have 2 network cards, one which is connected > > > to the ADSL modem and > > > >> > > another > > > >> > > > > to the local switch. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > I followed the wizard to setup NAT and > > > everything works without a > > > >> > > glitch. > > > >> > > > > From client computers I can do a name lookup > > > given a name get the > > > >IP > > > >> > > > address > > > >> > > > > even for external address, this showing the > > > DNS is working fine, > > > >but > > > >> > > from > > > >> > > > > client computer I can't browse to external > > > sites. Previously using > > > >> ICS > > > >> > > > > client computer can use the Internet with no > > > problem, so I know > > > >that > > > >> > the > > > >> > > > > network/DHCP settings are all fine. But when I > > > switch to NAT the > > > >> > problem > > > >> > > > > occur. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Does anyone has any idea? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > thanks, > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Hadi > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > |
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