Replacing W2K DC with W2K3 DC

I've got a small office network running a single W2K server that handles all
domain chores. I am replacing this with a new machine on which I will
install Win 2003 Server and will want to have the new server replace the old
server entirely, including having it handle all of the domain chores. I have
only a couple of users so am not concerned about migrating huge AD databases
or whatever to the new machine. I can recreate that all manually. What order
of steps should I use to demote old server and cut over to the new server?
Thanks for any pointers. -- tom c

1. Load it up,...Static TCP/IP settings,...use existing DC for DNS
2. Join it to the existing Domain
3. Install DNS on it, leave DNS "unconfigured". Good idea to have WINS too.
4. Run DCPromo, make it a DC of an *exisitng* Domain. During the process
tell it to use itself for the DNS Server. Use both itself and the old
one in the
TCP/IP settings for DNS.
5. Take a break, maybe an hour or so,...replication will be completed and
settled down.
6. Run DCPromo on the old DC and reduce it down to a member server.
Adjust TCP/IP settings on all machines to look for the new DC/DNS
instead of
the old one. If you use DHCP, adjust the scope to match. Reboot the
Clients to get new
updated TCP/IP config.
7. Manually make the new DC a Catalog Server. All the other roles will
automatically be
moved when DCPromo runs in step #6.
8. All done.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

"Tom C." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've got a small office network running a single W2K server that handles
all
> domain chores. I am replacing this with a new machine on which I will
> install Win 2003 Server and will want to have the new server replace the
old
> server entirely, including having it handle all of the domain chores. I
have
> only a couple of users so am not concerned about migrating huge AD
databases
> or whatever to the new machine. I can recreate that all manually. What
order
> of steps should I use to demote old server and cut over to the new server?
> Thanks for any pointers. -- tom c
>
>

So maybe it would be a good idea to do the global catalog xfer BEFORE he
dcpromo's down the original DC? Member servers can't hold the GC.

Joshua,
Can you be specific as to what steps are suggesting to change, using
Phillip's step numbers if possible? Very much appreciated. -- tom c

"Joshua Bolton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> So maybe it would be a good idea to do the global catalog xfer BEFORE he
> dcpromo's down the original DC? Member servers can't hold the GC.

That's what I usually do anyway. But I don't think the GC is
"transfered",..it is just simply "created",...so it doesn't matter. You can
even make all DC to be GCS's all at the same time and it works,...the GC
isn't "replicated" or anything, as far as I know.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
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Understanding the ISA 2004 Access Rule Processing
http://www.isaserver.org/articles/IS...cessRules.html

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Guidance
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2004.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2000.asp

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/default.asp

Deployment Guidelines for ISA Server 2004 Enterprise Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...isaserver.mspx
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"Joshua Bolton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> So maybe it would be a good idea to do the global catalog xfer BEFORE he
> dcpromo's down the original DC? Member servers can't hold the GC.

He's just sayinf that you would make the new DC a Global Catalog Server even
while the old one still also a Global Catalog Server. It doesn't change
anything I suggested.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com


"Tom C." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Joshua,
> Can you be specific as to what steps are suggesting to change, using
> Phillip's step numbers if possible? Very much appreciated. -- tom c
>
> "Joshua Bolton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:435B12E7-C837-4886-9AC3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > So maybe it would be a good idea to do the global catalog xfer BEFORE he
> > dcpromo's down the original DC? Member servers can't hold the GC.
>
>

Got it. Many thanks!!!

"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
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> He's just sayinf that you would make the new DC a Global Catalog Server
> even
> while the old one still also a Global Catalog Server. It doesn't change
> anything I suggested.
>
> --
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
>
> "Tom C." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Joshua,
>> Can you be specific as to what steps are suggesting to change, using
>> Phillip's step numbers if possible? Very much appreciated. -- tom c
>>
>> "Joshua Bolton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:435B12E7-C837-4886-9AC3-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > So maybe it would be a good idea to do the global catalog xfer BEFORE
>> > he
>> > dcpromo's down the original DC? Member servers can't hold the GC.
>>
>>
>
>

I'm actually in the process of working through these instructions and ran
into this problem. dcpromo failed because i had not prepped the Win2000
domain for Win2003 AD. The error pointed me to adprep, so I ran adprep
/forestPrep on the Win2000 DC. adprep fails with this message:

ERROR: Failed to transfer the schema FSMO role: 52 (Unavailable). If the
error code is "Insufficient Rights", make sure you are logged in as a member
of the schema admin group. Adprep was unable to upgrade the schema on the
schema master.

I'm stuck as to what to do next. Your suggestion? I'm in a pickle because
I'm on site for only a couple days to get this working. Thanks for any help
you can provide. -- tom c

Hmmm......

Can you use DC Promo to reverse the new machine and get back to where you
started with only the one original old DC? If you can do that,...then do an
inplace upgrade of the old DC to bring it up to 2003,...then add the new DC
accoriding to the steps I gave, and roll the old one back to a member
server.

Actually I think you better get a second opinion from other guys in
here,...or call PSS and get someone who specializes in AD migrations. It is
kinda hard to fix AD once you thourghly screw it up.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
-----------------------------------------------------
Understanding the ISA 2004 Access Rule Processing
http://www.isaserver.org/articles/IS...cessRules.html

Troubleshooting Client Authentication on Access Rules in ISA Server 2004
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...7/ts_rules.doc

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Guidance
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2004.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2000.asp

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/default.asp

Deployment Guidelines for ISA Server 2004 Enterprise Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...isaserver.mspx
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"Tom C." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eLawIr%(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm actually in the process of working through these instructions and ran
> into this problem. dcpromo failed because i had not prepped the Win2000
> domain for Win2003 AD. The error pointed me to adprep, so I ran adprep
> /forestPrep on the Win2000 DC. adprep fails with this message:
>
> ERROR: Failed to transfer the schema FSMO role: 52 (Unavailable). If the
> error code is "Insufficient Rights", make sure you are logged in as a
member
> of the schema admin group. Adprep was unable to upgrade the schema on the
> schema master.
>
> I'm stuck as to what to do next. Your suggestion? I'm in a pickle because
> I'm on site for only a couple days to get this working. Thanks for any
help
> you can provide. -- tom c
>
>