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Terry
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      08-16-2004, 03:09 PM
What are the best ways to be able to manage the server from another desktop?
Do I need a KVM over Cat5 for instance? or is there another way?
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Miha Pihler
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      08-16-2004, 03:24 PM
Depending on operating system and other requirements, you could probably use
Terminal Service. Terminal Services work on Windows 2000 Server or newer
operating system (Windows XP, Windows 2003). In Windows 2003 Microsoft added
support for console logon.

If you are looking for 3rd party tools that will also work on older
operating systems, look at VNC. http://www.realvnc.com/

I hope this helps,

Mike

"Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> What are the best ways to be able to manage the server from another

desktop?
> Do I need a KVM over Cat5 for instance? or is there another way?
> Regards
>
>



 
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      08-16-2004, 04:05 PM
Thanks Mike,
I need to manage the server from an XP client. Anyspecial considerations to
use Terminal Services? I have used VNC before, works quite well on Win98.
Regards

"Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Depending on operating system and other requirements, you could probably

use
> Terminal Service. Terminal Services work on Windows 2000 Server or newer
> operating system (Windows XP, Windows 2003). In Windows 2003 Microsoft

added
> support for console logon.
>
> If you are looking for 3rd party tools that will also work on older
> operating systems, look at VNC. http://www.realvnc.com/
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Mike
>
> "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > What are the best ways to be able to manage the server from another

> desktop?
> > Do I need a KVM over Cat5 for instance? or is there another way?
> > Regards
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Miha Pihler
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      08-16-2004, 05:07 PM
I use terminal service daily to access and manage servers at remote sites. I
do it all from my Windows XP. In Windows 2003 TS is installed by default it
is just not enabled. In Windows 2000 you have to select it when installing
server.

TS Client that comes with Windows XP is better (faster) then the one that
comes with Windows 2000. You can even install it on Windows 98 and manage
server from there.

TS is also much faster then VNC.

Anything special that you would like to know? Any special requirements?

Mike

"Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Mike,
> I need to manage the server from an XP client. Anyspecial considerations

to
> use Terminal Services? I have used VNC before, works quite well on Win98.
> Regards
>
> "Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Depending on operating system and other requirements, you could probably

> use
> > Terminal Service. Terminal Services work on Windows 2000 Server or newer
> > operating system (Windows XP, Windows 2003). In Windows 2003 Microsoft

> added
> > support for console logon.
> >
> > If you are looking for 3rd party tools that will also work on older
> > operating systems, look at VNC. http://www.realvnc.com/
> >
> > I hope this helps,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > What are the best ways to be able to manage the server from another

> > desktop?
> > > Do I need a KVM over Cat5 for instance? or is there another way?
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Terry
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      08-17-2004, 08:19 AM
Hello Mike,
I have spotted an old webcast I could watch to give me an overview, I
suppose what I need to know is some basic setup requirements for the server
and XP client. Any HOWTO docs on this please?
Regards

"Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I use terminal service daily to access and manage servers at remote sites.

I
> do it all from my Windows XP. In Windows 2003 TS is installed by default

it
> is just not enabled. In Windows 2000 you have to select it when installing
> server.
>
> TS Client that comes with Windows XP is better (faster) then the one that
> comes with Windows 2000. You can even install it on Windows 98 and manage
> server from there.
>
> TS is also much faster then VNC.
>
> Anything special that you would like to know? Any special requirements?
>
> Mike
>
> "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks Mike,
> > I need to manage the server from an XP client. Anyspecial considerations

> to
> > use Terminal Services? I have used VNC before, works quite well on

Win98.
> > Regards
> >
> > "Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Depending on operating system and other requirements, you could

probably
> > use
> > > Terminal Service. Terminal Services work on Windows 2000 Server or

newer
> > > operating system (Windows XP, Windows 2003). In Windows 2003 Microsoft

> > added
> > > support for console logon.
> > >
> > > If you are looking for 3rd party tools that will also work on older
> > > operating systems, look at VNC. http://www.realvnc.com/
> > >
> > > I hope this helps,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > What are the best ways to be able to manage the server from another
> > > desktop?
> > > > Do I need a KVM over Cat5 for instance? or is there another way?
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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      08-17-2004, 08:44 AM
Hello Mike,
Just one Q. At the moment I am using a user account that has admin rights
but only to certain shares. What do I need to put into place regarding a
user account to be able to manage all of the server with TS? The server has
a raid 5 configured as a C: that has the OS and D: that has all the user
data. Currently there are shares on the D: drive that user login scripts map
to drive letters.
Regards

"Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I use terminal service daily to access and manage servers at remote sites.

I
> do it all from my Windows XP. In Windows 2003 TS is installed by default

it
> is just not enabled. In Windows 2000 you have to select it when installing
> server.
>
> TS Client that comes with Windows XP is better (faster) then the one that
> comes with Windows 2000. You can even install it on Windows 98 and manage
> server from there.
>
> TS is also much faster then VNC.
>
> Anything special that you would like to know? Any special requirements?
>
> Mike
>
> "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks Mike,
> > I need to manage the server from an XP client. Anyspecial considerations

> to
> > use Terminal Services? I have used VNC before, works quite well on

Win98.
> > Regards
> >
> > "Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Depending on operating system and other requirements, you could

probably
> > use
> > > Terminal Service. Terminal Services work on Windows 2000 Server or

newer
> > > operating system (Windows XP, Windows 2003). In Windows 2003 Microsoft

> > added
> > > support for console logon.
> > >
> > > If you are looking for 3rd party tools that will also work on older
> > > operating systems, look at VNC. http://www.realvnc.com/
> > >
> > > I hope this helps,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > What are the best ways to be able to manage the server from another
> > > desktop?
> > > > Do I need a KVM over Cat5 for instance? or is there another way?
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Miha Pihler
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      08-17-2004, 09:30 AM
Hi Terry,

First, user must be able to logon to the server, just like he would be
behind the console. He doesn't need to be a domain administrator -- but this
will require some additional work for user to be able to logon to servers
that are domain controllers. By default only domain administrators are
allowed to logon to domain controllers. It is not recommended that you alow
users that you don't trust, logon to domain controllers.

Terminal Services in Windows Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...l/default.mspx

Mike

"Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:u$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello Mike,
> Just one Q. At the moment I am using a user account that has admin rights
> but only to certain shares. What do I need to put into place regarding a
> user account to be able to manage all of the server with TS? The server

has
> a raid 5 configured as a C: that has the OS and D: that has all the user
> data. Currently there are shares on the D: drive that user login scripts

map
> to drive letters.
> Regards
>
> "Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I use terminal service daily to access and manage servers at remote

sites.
> I
> > do it all from my Windows XP. In Windows 2003 TS is installed by default

> it
> > is just not enabled. In Windows 2000 you have to select it when

installing
> > server.
> >
> > TS Client that comes with Windows XP is better (faster) then the one

that
> > comes with Windows 2000. You can even install it on Windows 98 and

manage
> > server from there.
> >
> > TS is also much faster then VNC.
> >
> > Anything special that you would like to know? Any special requirements?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Thanks Mike,
> > > I need to manage the server from an XP client. Anyspecial

considerations
> > to
> > > use Terminal Services? I have used VNC before, works quite well on

> Win98.
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > "Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Depending on operating system and other requirements, you could

> probably
> > > use
> > > > Terminal Service. Terminal Services work on Windows 2000 Server or

> newer
> > > > operating system (Windows XP, Windows 2003). In Windows 2003

Microsoft
> > > added
> > > > support for console logon.
> > > >
> > > > If you are looking for 3rd party tools that will also work on older
> > > > operating systems, look at VNC. http://www.realvnc.com/
> > > >
> > > > I hope this helps,
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > What are the best ways to be able to manage the server from

another
> > > > desktop?
> > > > > Do I need a KVM over Cat5 for instance? or is there another way?
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Mario
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      08-18-2004, 09:07 PM
I am looking for a way to manage my Windows Server 2003
remotely. Do you have detailed instructions on how to
configure TS to allow me to do that from my XP pro system?

I would really appreciate your information.

Thank you,

Mario Hernandez
(E-Mail Removed)


>-----Original Message-----
>Hello Mike,
>I have spotted an old webcast I could watch to give me

an overview, I
>suppose what I need to know is some basic setup

requirements for the server
>and XP client. Any HOWTO docs on this please?
>Regards
>
>"Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I use terminal service daily to access and manage

servers at remote sites.
>I
>> do it all from my Windows XP. In Windows 2003 TS is

installed by default
>it
>> is just not enabled. In Windows 2000 you have to

select it when installing
>> server.
>>
>> TS Client that comes with Windows XP is better

(faster) then the one that
>> comes with Windows 2000. You can even install it on

Windows 98 and manage
>> server from there.
>>
>> TS is also much faster then VNC.
>>
>> Anything special that you would like to know? Any

special requirements?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Thanks Mike,
>> > I need to manage the server from an XP client.

Anyspecial considerations
>> to
>> > use Terminal Services? I have used VNC before, works

quite well on
>Win98.
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > "Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > Depending on operating system and other

requirements, you could
>probably
>> > use
>> > > Terminal Service. Terminal Services work on

Windows 2000 Server or
>newer
>> > > operating system (Windows XP, Windows 2003). In

Windows 2003 Microsoft
>> > added
>> > > support for console logon.
>> > >
>> > > If you are looking for 3rd party tools that will

also work on older
>> > > operating systems, look at VNC.

http://www.realvnc.com/
>> > >
>> > > I hope this helps,
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > >
>> > > "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

in message
>> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > > What are the best ways to be able to manage the

server from another
>> > > desktop?
>> > > > Do I need a KVM over Cat5 for instance? or is

there another way?
>> > > > Regards
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>
>.
>

 
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      08-18-2004, 09:52 PM
Hi Mario,

Windows 2003 by default installs RDP which you can use to administer
servers. You can have up to two concurrent connections to one server (two
administrators can work on server at a time using TS).
Even with TS installed, they are disabled by default. To enable it right
click My Computer on server and click Remote tab. Select the option where is
says "Allow users to connect remotely to this computer". Here you can also
add any non administrator users that will use TS to access it. Apply the
settings and close all the windows.

On your windows XP click on Start > Run > mstsc and click OK. Enter name of
IP of server and click OK. Well from here there should be no problems.

If you need to access remote server or other network make sure that TCP port
3389 is not blocked.

Mike

"Mario" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:174d01c48567$5af0e940$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I am looking for a way to manage my Windows Server 2003
> remotely. Do you have detailed instructions on how to
> configure TS to allow me to do that from my XP pro system?
>
> I would really appreciate your information.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mario Hernandez
> (E-Mail Removed)
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hello Mike,
> >I have spotted an old webcast I could watch to give me

> an overview, I
> >suppose what I need to know is some basic setup

> requirements for the server
> >and XP client. Any HOWTO docs on this please?
> >Regards
> >
> >"Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I use terminal service daily to access and manage

> servers at remote sites.
> >I
> >> do it all from my Windows XP. In Windows 2003 TS is

> installed by default
> >it
> >> is just not enabled. In Windows 2000 you have to

> select it when installing
> >> server.
> >>
> >> TS Client that comes with Windows XP is better

> (faster) then the one that
> >> comes with Windows 2000. You can even install it on

> Windows 98 and manage
> >> server from there.
> >>
> >> TS is also much faster then VNC.
> >>
> >> Anything special that you would like to know? Any

> special requirements?
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Thanks Mike,
> >> > I need to manage the server from an XP client.

> Anyspecial considerations
> >> to
> >> > use Terminal Services? I have used VNC before, works

> quite well on
> >Win98.
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > "Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > > Depending on operating system and other

> requirements, you could
> >probably
> >> > use
> >> > > Terminal Service. Terminal Services work on

> Windows 2000 Server or
> >newer
> >> > > operating system (Windows XP, Windows 2003). In

> Windows 2003 Microsoft
> >> > added
> >> > > support for console logon.
> >> > >
> >> > > If you are looking for 3rd party tools that will

> also work on older
> >> > > operating systems, look at VNC.

> http://www.realvnc.com/
> >> > >
> >> > > I hope this helps,
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike
> >> > >
> >> > > "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

> in message
> >> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > > > What are the best ways to be able to manage the

> server from another
> >> > > desktop?
> >> > > > Do I need a KVM over Cat5 for instance? or is

> there another way?
> >> > > > Regards
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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      08-19-2004, 04:43 AM
Hi Mike,
thank you for your response.

This is my scenario. I have a windows server 2003 server
sitting behind a SMC broadband router. I want to be able
to connect to the server from home using TS. What
exactly do I need to do in the router configuration page
to allow my connection through the sever?
You mentioned port 3389 to be open for TCP/IP is that
correct?
Also, you said to enter the name or IP address of the
server, does that mean the PRIMARY DNS IP address?
because my server is getting an ip address from my router
(i.e. 192.168.1.x)

Let me see if I have the correct: After setting up
remote desktop on both, the server and the home pc with
th especific user account, forwarding the 3389 port to
TCP/IP and specifying the server's IP addres I open up
the remote desktop connection window at home and the as
an example: 192.168.1.x:3389 (where the IP address is the
PRIMARY DNS IP ADDRESS) and click connect?

I woud really appreciate it if you can confirm my theory
or if you can correct my procedures.

Mario Hernandez

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Mario,
>
>Windows 2003 by default installs RDP which you can use

to administer
>servers. You can have up to two concurrent connections

to one server (two
>administrators can work on server at a time using TS).
>Even with TS installed, they are disabled by default. To

enable it right
>click My Computer on server and click Remote tab. Select

the option where is
>says "Allow users to connect remotely to this computer".

Here you can also
>add any non administrator users that will use TS to

access it. Apply the
>settings and close all the windows.
>
>On your windows XP click on Start > Run > mstsc and

click OK. Enter name of
>IP of server and click OK. Well from here there should

be no problems.
>
>If you need to access remote server or other network

make sure that TCP port
>3389 is not blocked.
>
>Mike
>
>"Mario" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:174d01c48567$5af0e940$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I am looking for a way to manage my Windows Server 2003
>> remotely. Do you have detailed instructions on how to
>> configure TS to allow me to do that from my XP pro

system?
>>
>> I would really appreciate your information.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Mario Hernandez
>> (E-Mail Removed)
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hello Mike,
>> >I have spotted an old webcast I could watch to give me

>> an overview, I
>> >suppose what I need to know is some basic setup

>> requirements for the server
>> >and XP client. Any HOWTO docs on this please?
>> >Regards
>> >
>> >"Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> I use terminal service daily to access and manage

>> servers at remote sites.
>> >I
>> >> do it all from my Windows XP. In Windows 2003 TS is

>> installed by default
>> >it
>> >> is just not enabled. In Windows 2000 you have to

>> select it when installing
>> >> server.
>> >>
>> >> TS Client that comes with Windows XP is better

>> (faster) then the one that
>> >> comes with Windows 2000. You can even install it on

>> Windows 98 and manage
>> >> server from there.
>> >>
>> >> TS is also much faster then VNC.
>> >>
>> >> Anything special that you would like to know? Any

>> special requirements?
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

>> message
>> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Thanks Mike,
>> >> > I need to manage the server from an XP client.

>> Anyspecial considerations
>> >> to
>> >> > use Terminal Services? I have used VNC before,

works
>> quite well on
>> >Win98.
>> >> > Regards
>> >> >
>> >> > "Miha Pihler" <mihap-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

>> message
>> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > > Depending on operating system and other

>> requirements, you could
>> >probably
>> >> > use
>> >> > > Terminal Service. Terminal Services work on

>> Windows 2000 Server or
>> >newer
>> >> > > operating system (Windows XP, Windows 2003). In

>> Windows 2003 Microsoft
>> >> > added
>> >> > > support for console logon.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > If you are looking for 3rd party tools that will

>> also work on older
>> >> > > operating systems, look at VNC.

>> http://www.realvnc.com/
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I hope this helps,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Mike
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Terry" <(E-Mail Removed)>

wrote
>> in message
>> >> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > > > What are the best ways to be able to manage

the
>> server from another
>> >> > > desktop?
>> >> > > > Do I need a KVM over Cat5 for instance? or is

>> there another way?
>> >> > > > Regards
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

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