Remote sensor using a Wild Blue internet interface

http://www.lazygranch.com/tikroad.htm

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You will probably find it belongs to the University of Nevada.
Q330 Data loggers with a GPS Synchronized Clocks seem to be part and
parcel of seismic monitoring stations.

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I thought the Yagi pointed at a rubber duck
on the 2nd unit?

Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
www.lumpymusic.com

On Jun 29, 3:23 pm, "Lumpy" <l...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:
> m...@sushi.com wrote:
> >http://www.lazygranch.com/tikroad.htm
>
> I thought the Yagi pointed at a rubber duck
> on the 2nd unit?
>
> Lumpy
>
> In Your Ears for 40 Years
> www.lumpymusic.com

I don't recall a rubber duck on the 2nd unit. In any event, why would
someone set up a RF link for two setups about 50ft apart? Even if you
did, a yagi would be overkill for 50ft.

http://www.lazygranch.com/tikroad.htm

Lump:
> > I thought the Yagi pointed at a rubber duck
> > on the 2nd unit?

miso:
> I don't recall a rubber duck on the 2nd unit.
> In any event, why would someone set up a RF link
> for two setups about 50ft apart? Even if you
> did, a yagi would be overkill for 50ft.

I don't know why anyone would do that but it's
been a major topic of discussion on DLR ever
since Joerg first posted the photos.

Lumpy

You Played on Lawrence Welk?
Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.

www.lumpyguitar.net

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In case you missed the lengthy discussion,
here's the website that displays the
seismic measurements from that station -
http://rev.seis.sc.edu/stations/TA/T...tion_dbid=1586

There's another monitoring station SW of there
Code: TA.U11A
Name: Corn Creek, NV, USA
Location: 36.42 N, 115.38 W

And there's another on someone's property in Rach-town.
All curiously set up to monitor earth movement south
and east of a place where there may or may not be
a big boom test, if the politics ever work out.


Lumpy

You were the "OPERATION" game voice?
Yes. Take out wrenched ankle.

www.lumpyvoice.com

On Jun 29, 6:22 pm, "Lumpy" <l...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:
> http://www.lazygranch.com/tikroad.htm
>
> Lump:
>
> > > I thought the Yagi pointed at a rubber duck
> > > on the 2nd unit?
>
> miso:
>
> > I don't recall a rubber duck on the 2nd unit.
> > In any event, why would someone set up a RF link
> > for two setups about 50ft apart? Even if you
> > did, a yagi would be overkill for 50ft.
>
> I don't know why anyone would do that but it's
> been a major topic of discussion on DLR ever
> since Joerg first posted the photos.
>
> Lumpy
>
> You Played on Lawrence Welk?
> Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.
>
> www.lumpyguitar.net

I can't find that post, but I saw no rubber ducky in that site. You
can search the photo and verify there is no rubber ducky. There is a
GPS antenna for timing, which is quite common in networking.

There is a Yucca Mountain Project earthquake network, a Great Basin
network, one for Nevada, and probably a few more. You can't say for
sure which network this sensor is part of. Further, I see no reason to
assume both facilities are related. Different power sources,
different fencing,... this doesn't sound like the facilities are tied
together.

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:29:48 -0700, "Lumpy"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> http://www.lazygranch.com/tikroad.htm
>
>In case you missed the lengthy discussion,
>here's the website that displays the
>seismic measurements from that station -
>http://rev.seis.sc.edu/stations/TA/T...tion_dbid=1586
>
>There's another monitoring station SW of there
>Code: TA.U11A
>Name: Corn Creek, NV, USA
>Location: 36.42 N, 115.38 W
>
>And there's another on someone's property in Rach-town.
>All curiously set up to monitor earth movement south
>and east of a place where there may or may not be
>a big boom test, if the politics ever work out.
>
>
>Lumpy
>
>You were the "OPERATION" game voice?
>Yes. Take out wrenched ankle.
>
>www.lumpyvoice.com
>
>


Uh ...... wharze the geophones ?? can't see any geophones in either
of these pictures !

looks a LOT more like a geomagnetic setup of equipment ..... the white
cabinet box , is typical of USGS geomag units .

earthquake sites are usually ( huge ) spider webs of linked
geophones, on a splay of axis suitable for monitoring ground motion.
it takes numerous ( dozens , many dozens ) vertical and horizontal
arrays to accomplish this properly.

like this .........

http://www.grandunification.com/hype...g_System2.html

http://www.i-o.com/Land_Imaging/Geophones/

http://www.seismicnet.com/geophone/index.html

http://www.harbourdom.de/geophones.htm


even in my own personal system I have a grid of 11 sensors for both
vertical and horiz . this doesn't look like anything I have seen
before ( and I have seen tons of them ) for earthquake measurement.


it does , however , look a lot like the cabinet in the middle of this
page ...........
http://geomag.usgs.gov/observatories/fresno/


for this to " really " be useful for earth quakes it seems to be
missing a LOT of equipment that is standard for such stations.



maybe the one ( without the white cabinet ) is measuring ground water
radiation and has a single scint probe buried in the water table !!
dunno, but nothing there to suggest seismic measurements !!

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:29:48 -0700, "Lumpy"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> http://www.lazygranch.com/tikroad.htm
>
>In case you missed the lengthy discussion,
>here's the website that displays the
>seismic measurements from that station -
>http://rev.seis.sc.edu/stations/TA/T...tion_dbid=1586
>

hey lump ........

these so called seismic charts for that station you mentioned "
do not compute " . many of the traces show " high freq "
motion detection , like ( say ) a wind storm would produce on a
unfiltered sensor. sensors that detect wind ,
or ANY high frequency motions ( above 10hz , but often above even 4.5
hz ) are of absolutely NO use to monitor seismic earthquake
activities.

for example ...... push the " back " button
to page 2007-06-25 ... 2007-06-26 and look
there is NO such thing as a 24 hour earthquake.
all of these 2 hour traces are showing wind induced
sensor activity. go forward to the next day and it's a quieter day
with what looks like a little local truck / car traffic.
( 22:00 )

the next day shows almost no wind and
a couple of interesting trapezoidal
motion prints ....... VERY interesting . also not a natural
earth wave. there are also a few typical seismic events , but FAR too
few to be a real life earthquake record. a typical day
here has dozens of tiny quake events, never seen a quite day ever !





don't know what kind of info they are gathering at the sites,
but it's definitely not basic quake data....... it's something
totally different seismically speaking ! maybe those charts aren't
really what's happening at all. seems odd that someone would spend
all that money and time to sit and watch the wind blow their sensors
from some remote site !!!






>There's another monitoring station SW of there
>Code: TA.U11A
>Name: Corn Creek, NV, USA
>Location: 36.42 N, 115.38 W
>
>And there's another on someone's property in Rach-town.
>All curiously set up to monitor earth movement south
>and east of a place where there may or may not be
>a big boom test, if the politics ever work out.
>
>
>Lumpy
>
>You were the "OPERATION" game voice?
>Yes. Take out wrenched ankle.
>
>www.lumpyvoice.com
>
>

On Jun 29, 8:27 pm, krackula <krack...@i.am> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:29:48 -0700, "Lumpy"
>
>
>
> <l...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:
> >m...@sushi.com wrote:
> >>http://www.lazygranch.com/tikroad.htm
>
> >In case you missed the lengthy discussion,
> >here's the website that displays the
> >seismic measurements from that station -
> >http://rev.seis.sc.edu/stations/TA/T...tion_dbid=1586
>
> >There's another monitoring station SW of there
> >Code: TA.U11A
> >Name: Corn Creek, NV, USA
> >Location: 36.42 N, 115.38 W
>
> >And there's another on someone's property in Rach-town.
> >All curiously set up to monitor earth movement south
> >and east of a place where there may or may not be
> >a big boom test, if the politics ever work out.
>
> >Lumpy
>
> >You were the "OPERATION" game voice?
> >Yes. Take out wrenched ankle.
>
> >www.lumpyvoice.com
>
> Uh ...... wharze the geophones ?? can't see any geophones in either
> of these pictures !
>
> looks a LOT more like a geomagnetic setup of equipment ..... the white
> cabinet box , is typical of USGS geomag units .
>
> earthquake sites are usually ( huge ) spider webs of linked
> geophones, on a splay of axis suitable for monitoring ground motion.
> it takes numerous ( dozens , many dozens ) vertical and horizontal
> arrays to accomplish this properly.
>
> like this .........
>
> http://www.grandunification.com/hype...arning_System2....
>
> http://www.i-o.com/Land_Imaging/Geophones/
>
> http://www.seismicnet.com/geophone/index.html
>
> http://www.harbourdom.de/geophones.htm
>
> even in my own personal system I have a grid of 11 sensors for both
> vertical and horiz . this doesn't look like anything I have seen
> before ( and I have seen tons of them ) for earthquake measurement.
>
> it does , however , look a lot like the cabinet in the middle of this
> page ...........http://geomag.usgs.gov/observatories/fresno/
>
> for this to " really " be useful for earth quakes it seems to be
> missing a LOT of equipment that is standard for such stations.
>
> maybe the one ( without the white cabinet ) is measuring ground water
> radiation and has a single scint probe buried in the water table !!
> dunno, but nothing there to suggest seismic measurements !!

I don't have the links handy anymore, but everything is buried quite
deep in these installations. Multiple sensors are used, but across a
network. Google
q330 episensor