redundant servers

hello,

i just have a little question,

my idea is: i have two Windows 2003 servers and want to redundant them. so
if one server fails the second server get`s in and takes over.

how can i make this happen? do i need a third server to make the routing? is
there a special program for?

regards stefan

Stefan,
Clustering does that. If you don't want to cluster, then you need to take
each service and figure out how to make it resilient:
- AD, DNS is automatic if you set up another DC with DNS
- DHCP: needs the same scope with an alternate exclusion range
- Files: Not quite as simple as it seems
- Print
- IIS
- SQL
etc. etc.
Hope that helps,
Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com



"Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> hello,
>
> i just have a little question,
>
> my idea is: i have two Windows 2003 servers and want to redundant them. so
> if one server fails the second server get`s in and takes over.
>
> how can i make this happen? do i need a third server to make the routing?
> is there a special program for?
>
> regards stefan

so if i cluster i don`t need a third server? or do i still need it?
and is there a manual or something to set this up?
because how does the incoming line now wich server it needs?

"Anthony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Stefan,
> Clustering does that. If you don't want to cluster, then you need to take
> each service and figure out how to make it resilient:
> - AD, DNS is automatic if you set up another DC with DNS
> - DHCP: needs the same scope with an alternate exclusion range
> - Files: Not quite as simple as it seems
> - Print
> - IIS
> - SQL
> etc. etc.
> Hope that helps,
> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com
>
>
>
> "Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> hello,
>>
>> i just have a little question,
>>
>> my idea is: i have two Windows 2003 servers and want to redundant them.
>> so if one server fails the second server get`s in and takes over.
>>
>> how can i make this happen? do i need a third server to make the routing?
>> is there a special program for?
>>
>> regards stefan
>
>

so if i cluster i don`t need a third server? or do i still need it?
and is there a manual or something to set this up?
because how does the incoming line now wich server it needs?

"Anthony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Stefan,
> Clustering does that. If you don't want to cluster, then you need to take
> each service and figure out how to make it resilient:
> - AD, DNS is automatic if you set up another DC with DNS
> - DHCP: needs the same scope with an alternate exclusion range
> - Files: Not quite as simple as it seems
> - Print
> - IIS
> - SQL
> etc. etc.
> Hope that helps,
> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com
>
>
>
> "Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> hello,
>>
>> i just have a little question,
>>
>> my idea is: i have two Windows 2003 servers and want to redundant them.
>> so if one server fails the second server get`s in and takes over.
>>
>> how can i make this happen? do i need a third server to make the routing?
>> is there a special program for?
>>
>> regards stefan
>
>

so if i cluster i don`t need a third server? or do i still need it?
and is there a manual or something to set this up?
because how does the incoming line now wich server it needs?

"Anthony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Stefan,
> Clustering does that. If you don't want to cluster, then you need to take
> each service and figure out how to make it resilient:
> - AD, DNS is automatic if you set up another DC with DNS
> - DHCP: needs the same scope with an alternate exclusion range
> - Files: Not quite as simple as it seems
> - Print
> - IIS
> - SQL
> etc. etc.
> Hope that helps,
> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com
>
>
>
> "Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> hello,
>>
>> i just have a little question,
>>
>> my idea is: i have two Windows 2003 servers and want to redundant them.
>> so if one server fails the second server get`s in and takes over.
>>
>> how can i make this happen? do i need a third server to make the routing?
>> is there a special program for?
>>
>> regards stefan
>
>

Hi Stefan,
You can cluster two servers. Clustering is a big powerful technology, so you
might want to start here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...lustering.mspx
then post again if you have any specific questions. Normally you would
cluster servers if you _need_ to achieve high availability, as it increases
your costs a lot. Otherwise you would be looking at resilience, or how fast
you can recover services if they fail.
Hope that helps,
Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk


"Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> so if i cluster i don`t need a third server? or do i still need it?
> and is there a manual or something to set this up?
> because how does the incoming line now wich server it needs?
>
> "Anthony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Stefan,
>> Clustering does that. If you don't want to cluster, then you need to take
>> each service and figure out how to make it resilient:
>> - AD, DNS is automatic if you set up another DC with DNS
>> - DHCP: needs the same scope with an alternate exclusion range
>> - Files: Not quite as simple as it seems
>> - Print
>> - IIS
>> - SQL
>> etc. etc.
>> Hope that helps,
>> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> i just have a little question,
>>>
>>> my idea is: i have two Windows 2003 servers and want to redundant them.
>>> so if one server fails the second server get`s in and takes over.
>>>
>>> how can i make this happen? do i need a third server to make the
>>> routing? is there a special program for?
>>>
>>> regards stefan
>>
>>
>

Stefan Reugebrink <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> hello,
>
> i just have a little question,
>
> my idea is: i have two Windows 2003 servers and want to redundant
> them. so if one server fails the second server get`s in and takes
> over.
> how can i make this happen? do i need a third server to make the
> routing? is there a special program for?
>
> regards stefan

Much depends on your definition of redundant, on what you're running on
these servers, and the size of your budget.
Clustering may not be the sensible choice, and may not accomplish what you
wish.
Try posting with a lot more detail and you're bound to get a lot of help.

hello,

i want to cluster IIS webserver that has multiple websites, they all have to
be availeble even when a server brakes down, now you all say clustering butt
is this really the best choiche?
also the link is very nice to read butt i need a sort of manual for
webservers.


"Anthony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:u0Gxz$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Stefan,
> You can cluster two servers. Clustering is a big powerful technology, so
> you might want to start here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...lustering.mspx
> then post again if you have any specific questions. Normally you would
> cluster servers if you _need_ to achieve high availability, as it
> increases your costs a lot. Otherwise you would be looking at resilience,
> or how fast you can recover services if they fail.
> Hope that helps,
> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>
>
> "Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> so if i cluster i don`t need a third server? or do i still need it?
>> and is there a manual or something to set this up?
>> because how does the incoming line now wich server it needs?
>>
>> "Anthony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Stefan,
>>> Clustering does that. If you don't want to cluster, then you need to
>>> take each service and figure out how to make it resilient:
>>> - AD, DNS is automatic if you set up another DC with DNS
>>> - DHCP: needs the same scope with an alternate exclusion range
>>> - Files: Not quite as simple as it seems
>>> - Print
>>> - IIS
>>> - SQL
>>> etc. etc.
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> hello,
>>>>
>>>> i just have a little question,
>>>>
>>>> my idea is: i have two Windows 2003 servers and want to redundant them.
>>>> so if one server fails the second server get`s in and takes over.
>>>>
>>>> how can i make this happen? do i need a third server to make the
>>>> routing? is there a special program for?
>>>>
>>>> regards stefan
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

hello,

my idea is: i have 2 servers that are installed the same, 1 harddrive where
SQL database is on and the other information. now is my question, do i need
a third server that shows the connection to go to what server? or is here
some kind of router for? so if the connection on port 1 (server 1)brakes
down, the signal automaticly goes to port 2?(server 2)

regards stefan

"Anthony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:u0Gxz$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Stefan,
> You can cluster two servers. Clustering is a big powerful technology, so
> you might want to start here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...lustering.mspx
> then post again if you have any specific questions. Normally you would
> cluster servers if you _need_ to achieve high availability, as it
> increases your costs a lot. Otherwise you would be looking at resilience,
> or how fast you can recover services if they fail.
> Hope that helps,
> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>
>
> "Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> so if i cluster i don`t need a third server? or do i still need it?
>> and is there a manual or something to set this up?
>> because how does the incoming line now wich server it needs?
>>
>> "Anthony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Stefan,
>>> Clustering does that. If you don't want to cluster, then you need to
>>> take each service and figure out how to make it resilient:
>>> - AD, DNS is automatic if you set up another DC with DNS
>>> - DHCP: needs the same scope with an alternate exclusion range
>>> - Files: Not quite as simple as it seems
>>> - Print
>>> - IIS
>>> - SQL
>>> etc. etc.
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> hello,
>>>>
>>>> i just have a little question,
>>>>
>>>> my idea is: i have two Windows 2003 servers and want to redundant them.
>>>> so if one server fails the second server get`s in and takes over.
>>>>
>>>> how can i make this happen? do i need a third server to make the
>>>> routing? is there a special program for?
>>>>
>>>> regards stefan
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Hi Stefan,
OK, you didn't mention web servers before.
You should look at load balancing for web servers:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/window....mspx?mfr=true
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro....mspx?mfr=true
http://technet2.microsoft.com/window....mspx?mfr=true
etc.
Hope that helps,
Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk



"Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> hello,
>
> i want to cluster IIS webserver that has multiple websites, they all have
> to be availeble even when a server brakes down, now you all say clustering
> butt is this really the best choiche?
> also the link is very nice to read butt i need a sort of manual for
> webservers.
>
>
> "Anthony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:u0Gxz$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi Stefan,
>> You can cluster two servers. Clustering is a big powerful technology, so
>> you might want to start here:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...lustering.mspx
>> then post again if you have any specific questions. Normally you would
>> cluster servers if you _need_ to achieve high availability, as it
>> increases your costs a lot. Otherwise you would be looking at resilience,
>> or how fast you can recover services if they fail.
>> Hope that helps,
>> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk
>>
>>
>> "Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> so if i cluster i don`t need a third server? or do i still need it?
>>> and is there a manual or something to set this up?
>>> because how does the incoming line now wich server it needs?
>>>
>>> "Anthony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Stefan,
>>>> Clustering does that. If you don't want to cluster, then you need to
>>>> take each service and figure out how to make it resilient:
>>>> - AD, DNS is automatic if you set up another DC with DNS
>>>> - DHCP: needs the same scope with an alternate exclusion range
>>>> - Files: Not quite as simple as it seems
>>>> - Print
>>>> - IIS
>>>> - SQL
>>>> etc. etc.
>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Stefan Reugebrink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> i just have a little question,
>>>>>
>>>>> my idea is: i have two Windows 2003 servers and want to redundant
>>>>> them. so if one server fails the second server get`s in and takes
>>>>> over.
>>>>>
>>>>> how can i make this happen? do i need a third server to make the
>>>>> routing? is there a special program for?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards stefan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>