Redeemer of All

Jesu, the Father's only Son,
whose death for all redemption won,
before the worlds, of God most high,
begotten all ineffably.

The Father's Light and Splendor Thou
their endless Hope to Thee that bow:
accept the prayers and praise today
that through the world Thy servants pay.

Salvation's author, call to mind
how, taking the form of humankind,
born of a Virgin undefiled,
Thou in man's flesh becamest a Child.

Thus testifies the present day
Through every year in long array,
that Thou, salvation's source alone
proceedest from the Father's Throne.

Whence sky, and stars, and sea's abyss,
and earth, and all that therein is,
shall still, with laud and carol meet,
the Author of thine Advent greet.

And we who, by Thy precious Blood
from sin redeemed, are marked for God,
on this, the day that saw Thy Birth,
sing the new song of ransomed earth.

All honor, laud, and glory be,
O Jesu, Virgin-born, to Thee;
whom with the Father we adore,
and Holy Ghost forevermore.

Amen.

6th Century Hymn; tr: John Mason Neale

Claire Towny wrote:
> Jesu, the Father's only Son,
> whose death for all redemption won,
> before the worlds, of God most high,
> begotten all ineffably.
>
> The Father's Light and Splendor Thou
> their endless Hope to Thee that bow:
> accept the prayers and praise today
> that through the world Thy servants pay.
>
> Salvation's author, call to mind
> how, taking the form of humankind,
> born of a Virgin undefiled,
> Thou in man's flesh becamest a Child.
>
> Thus testifies the present day
> Through every year in long array,
> that Thou, salvation's source alone
> proceedest from the Father's Throne.
>
> Whence sky, and stars, and sea's abyss,
> and earth, and all that therein is,
> shall still, with laud and carol meet,
> the Author of thine Advent greet.
>
> And we who, by Thy precious Blood
> from sin redeemed, are marked for God,
> on this, the day that saw Thy Birth,
> sing the new song of ransomed earth.
>
> All honor, laud, and glory be,
> O Jesu, Virgin-born, to Thee;
> whom with the Father we adore,
> and Holy Ghost forevermore.
>
> Amen.
>
> 6th Century Hymn; tr: John Mason Neale
>
>
Jolly good dear, now have a glass of warm milk, and sit down and have a nap.

You will grow up one day, possibly.

Claire Towny wrote: ... of her invisible friend. Oh dear (

Hang on...

God himself created man and woman and placed them in a garden, in "his own
image", but got righteously angry at them when they ate, against his wish,
and after being tempted by a talking serpent that god himself had somehow
allowed to slither about in the garden, a tasty, beautiful fruit, though he
himself had placed it there but neglected to instill in his creations the
knowledge of good and evil so that they would know it was wrong to eat it.
Being omniscient, of course, he knew all this before he started, but was
apparently unable to do anything about it because he had planned it this way
from the beginning, and apparently god cannot change anything he already
knows, in spite of the fact that he's omnipotent, omniscient and
omnibenevolent.

Later, God himself impregnated a virgin so that he himself could be born a
human, a ManGod. This was necessary, apparently, because only his own ManGod
blood could appease himself and deliver humans, who he created, and who he
knew would muck things up by eating the fruit, from his own righteous anger.

Of course, he waited several thousand years to implement this divine plan,
in the meantime taking the righteous action of drowning every creature on
the planet except a few he could stuff on a boat. Not to mention handing
down a Law that served to further condemn every one of us, and in which Law
he himself had them frequently sacrifice animals to appease himself, though
he knew the blood of animals didn't really appease himself.

Much later, god, in a garden, prayed to himself to "take this cup" away from
himself, though he himself knew that he himself had planned the coming
events from the beginning and knew that not even he himself could save
himself, even though he was god and omnipotent, omniscient, etc. Accepting
this, he said, in effect, "Not my will, but my will."

God then sacrificed himself to himself to save us from himself. (or had
himself sacrificed; not much of a distinction between the two, really)
Before dying, he himself asked he himself why he had forsaken himself.

He himself, being dead, then raised himself from the dead less than 40 hours
later, though he himself had said he'd be dead for three days and three
nights, which he could do because he was still alive, and later he himself
pulled himself up into heaven where he himself apparently already was, and
where he himself is described as now sitting at the right hand of himself.

He himself then sent himself (or a ghost of himself, if you please) back to
earth to be a comfort to us, though he himself is still sitting at the right
hand of himself.

And, glory hallelujah, he himself promised that he himself will return
someday, though he himself is already here, and will still be there, to
snatch up those who believe the god blood sacrifice story he himself told
us, and kill the rest of us who don't believe the god blood sacrifice story,
no matter how nice we were otherwise. But, since killing us isn't enough to
appease his righteousness, he himself will then judge us, though according
to ManGod he himself will also not judge us, and being a god of love will
cast most of us into hell for an eternity of suffering. He has to, of
course, because he is a righteous, just god, and can't figure out a way to
save anyone who hasn't been redeemed by god-blood, even though he is
omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent, and loves us all.



.......... when you put it like that! Where do i sgin up? ;o)

"Les Hemmings" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Claire Towny wrote: ... of her invisible friend. Oh dear (
>
> Hang on...
>
> God himself created man and woman and placed them in a garden, in "his own
> image", but got righteously angry at them when they ate, against his wish,
> and after being tempted by a talking serpent that god himself had somehow
> allowed to slither about in the garden, a tasty, beautiful fruit, though
> he himself had placed it there but neglected to instill in his creations
> the knowledge of good and evil so that they would know it was wrong to eat
> it. Being omniscient, of course, he knew all this before he started, but
> was apparently unable to do anything about it because he had planned it
> this way from the beginning, and apparently god cannot change anything he
> already knows, in spite of the fact that he's omnipotent, omniscient and
> omnibenevolent.
>
> Later, God himself impregnated a virgin so that he himself could be born a
> human, a ManGod. This was necessary, apparently, because only his own
> ManGod blood could appease himself and deliver humans, who he created, and
> who he knew would muck things up by eating the fruit, from his own
> righteous anger.
>
> Of course, he waited several thousand years to implement this divine plan,
> in the meantime taking the righteous action of drowning every creature on
> the planet except a few he could stuff on a boat. Not to mention handing
> down a Law that served to further condemn every one of us, and in which
> Law he himself had them frequently sacrifice animals to appease himself,
> though he knew the blood of animals didn't really appease himself.
>
> Much later, god, in a garden, prayed to himself to "take this cup" away
> from himself, though he himself knew that he himself had planned the
> coming events from the beginning and knew that not even he himself could
> save himself, even though he was god and omnipotent, omniscient, etc.
> Accepting this, he said, in effect, "Not my will, but my will."
>
> God then sacrificed himself to himself to save us from himself. (or had
> himself sacrificed; not much of a distinction between the two, really)
> Before dying, he himself asked he himself why he had forsaken himself.
>
> He himself, being dead, then raised himself from the dead less than 40
> hours later, though he himself had said he'd be dead for three days and
> three nights, which he could do because he was still alive, and later he
> himself pulled himself up into heaven where he himself apparently already
> was, and where he himself is described as now sitting at the right hand of
> himself.
>
> He himself then sent himself (or a ghost of himself, if you please) back
> to earth to be a comfort to us, though he himself is still sitting at the
> right hand of himself.
>
> And, glory hallelujah, he himself promised that he himself will return
> someday, though he himself is already here, and will still be there, to
> snatch up those who believe the god blood sacrifice story he himself told
> us, and kill the rest of us who don't believe the god blood sacrifice
> story, no matter how nice we were otherwise. But, since killing us isn't
> enough to appease his righteousness, he himself will then judge us, though
> according to ManGod he himself will also not judge us, and being a god of
> love will cast most of us into hell for an eternity of suffering. He has
> to, of course, because he is a righteous, just god, and can't figure out a
> way to save anyone who hasn't been redeemed by god-blood, even though he
> is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent, and loves us all.
>
>
>
> ......... when you put it like that! Where do i sgin up? ;o)
>
>
>
And why did he take only seven days to create the earth?
If he had took eight, he could have welded the seams up.

Harry wrote:
>>>
> And why did he take only seven days to create the earth?
> If he had took eight, he could have welded the seams up.

And maybe left a makers stamp somewhere obvious! Would have saved a whole
lot of arguing!

Claire Towny wrote:
> Jesu, the Father's only Son,
> whose death for all redemption won,
> got his ass nailed to a cross,
> just to show us who's the boss