Recommendation needed: Business ISP with good connectivity to South Korea

Can anyone recommend a business ISP with good connectivity to South Korea?

Mr Benn wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a business ISP with good connectivity to South Korea?
>
>
beyond the USA and Europe, most ISPs will share the same international
carriers.

Routing is likely asymmetric anyway to somewhere like that.


So really, it is not likely to make a lot of difference.

"The Natural Philosopher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Mr Benn wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend a business ISP with good connectivity to South
>> Korea?
> beyond the USA and Europe, most ISPs will share the same international
> carriers.
>
> Routing is likely asymmetric anyway to somewhere like that.
>
>
> So really, it is not likely to make a lot of difference.

Out of interest, why is it likely to be asymmetric?

"bod43" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 22 Jan, 12:09, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Mr Benn wrote:
>> > Can anyone recommend a business ISP with good connectivity to South
>> > Korea?
>>
>> beyond the USA and Europe, most ISPs will share the same international
>> carriers.
>>
>> Routing is likely asymmetric anyway to somewhere like that.
>>
>> So really, it is not likely to make a lot of difference.
>
> Doubt they have anything in South Korea but they do have
> high speed peering in UK, HK and maybe Tokyo now too.
>
> http://options-it.com/

I have to admit that as they seem to be targeting the financial services
sector, they sound as if they might be quite expensive!

I'm looking for an ISP that has reliable and decent bandwidth and latency
circuits to South Korea rather than a private, guaranteed QoS leased circuit
which is likely to be horrendously expensive and which my company probably
wouldn't be able to justify paying for.

Are there any comparison tables anywhere which compare ISPs connections to
different parts of the globe?

Mr Benn wrote:
> "The Natural Philosopher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:hjc4ha$b2n$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Mr Benn wrote:
>>> Can anyone recommend a business ISP with good connectivity to South
>>> Korea?
>> beyond the USA and Europe, most ISPs will share the same international
>> carriers.
>>
>> Routing is likely asymmetric anyway to somewhere like that.
>>
>>
>> So really, it is not likely to make a lot of difference.
>
> Out of interest, why is it likely to be asymmetric?
>
>
BECAUSE if ISP A and B BOTH have e.g. transatlantic links, and are
commercial operations, then any transatlantic traffic between them will
be handed over for the OTHER guy to pay for as soon as possible!

Its a natural consequence of having two or more peering points between
two ISPS of any size.

CF the prisoners paradox or whatever its called in game theory. you
might as well play dirty, even if the other guy plays nice, because both
playing dirty is no worse then both playing nice, but playing nice when
the other guy plays dirty is for losers.

Mr Benn wrote:
> "bod43" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:ea6bd13d-b248-4331-9c56-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On 22 Jan, 12:09, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> Mr Benn wrote:
>>>> Can anyone recommend a business ISP with good connectivity to South
>>>> Korea?
>>> beyond the USA and Europe, most ISPs will share the same international
>>> carriers.
>>>
>>> Routing is likely asymmetric anyway to somewhere like that.
>>>
>>> So really, it is not likely to make a lot of difference.
>> Doubt they have anything in South Korea but they do have
>> high speed peering in UK, HK and maybe Tokyo now too.
>>
>> http://options-it.com/
>
> I have to admit that as they seem to be targeting the financial services
> sector, they sound as if they might be quite expensive!
>
> I'm looking for an ISP that has reliable and decent bandwidth and latency
> circuits to South Korea rather than a private, guaranteed QoS leased circuit
> which is likely to be horrendously expensive and which my company probably
> wouldn't be able to justify paying for.
>

in which cases nearly ALL ISPS will be peering with someone who has a
link there.

You dint think there was one ISP that went everywhere did you?

This is the INTERNET.

There will a be a good ISP in S korea, who pers with the majors
somewhere. That's more important tan this end where everybody peers with
everybody in telehouse etc.



> Are there any comparison tables anywhere which compare ISPs connections to
> different parts of the globe?
>
>

No UK ISP goes to all parts of the globe.

very few have their own international links at all.


*shrug* as long as they are buying bandwidth of someone who has, and
has it in adequacy, its no big deal.

My knowledge is a few years out of date, but even top level UK ISP's
only had peerings in Mae East and West, Holland somewhere, and maybe a
few others.

In a way, you are actually better off buying space on a big fat pipe
that running your own thinner one.

you get better average transfers. When I was doing this, we simply did
the sums. If our total traffic was such that it justified a link to a
peering point, that was less than the cost of renting off someone else,
we did it. If not, we rented.