Recommend 'Switch' to expand Netgear DG834PN

Hi - I've recently purchased a Netgear DG834PN. However, I have used
up all the available LAN ports! I've done some research and discovered
that I could add a separate 'switch' to this setup, thus increasing the
number of LAN Ports.

Can anyone suggest a good 'switch' to use with this router? Also, does
anyone foresee a problem with using a 'netgear switch' where both
devices would have assigned IP addresses of 192.168.0.1 as default?

Thanks.

On 23 Oct 2006 08:35:21 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Hi - I've recently purchased a Netgear DG834PN. However, I have used
>up all the available LAN ports! I've done some research and discovered
>that I could add a separate 'switch' to this setup, thus increasing the
>number of LAN Ports.
>
>Can anyone suggest a good 'switch' to use with this router? Also, does
>anyone foresee a problem with using a 'netgear switch' where both
>devices would have assigned IP addresses of 192.168.0.1 as default?

Switches are much of a muchness, just get a cheap one, I doubt you
would get any operational differences between any switch. I don't
understand you question about IP addresses, switches don't have IP
addresses assigned to them.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a good 'switch' to use with this router? Also, does
> anyone foresee a problem with using a 'netgear switch' where both
> devices would have assigned IP addresses of 192.168.0.1 as default?

A switch is a switch. Netgear, D-Link, mystery-brand, whatever. Most of the
low end devices are based around the same components anyway.

Switches do introduce a minimal delay; they have to inspect the target ethernet
address in order to determine which port(s) to send the packet out on. However
this difference is rarely noticeable in real terms.

Switches do not have IP addresses, unless it is some kind of expensive managed
switch that speaks IP. The vast majority of switches are layer two ethernet
devices, and consequently do no packet filtering based on IP, NetBEUI, DECnet,
Appletalk, or whatever protocol you happen to hurl around your internal network.

"Steve Pearce" <*(E-Mail Removed)*> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 23 Oct 2006 08:35:21 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>>Hi - I've recently purchased a Netgear DG834PN. However, I have used
>>up all the available LAN ports! I've done some research and discovered
>>that I could add a separate 'switch' to this setup, thus increasing the
>>number of LAN Ports.
>>
>>Can anyone suggest a good 'switch' to use with this router? Also, does
>>anyone foresee a problem with using a 'netgear switch' where both
>>devices would have assigned IP addresses of 192.168.0.1 as default?
>
> Switches are much of a muchness, just get a cheap one, I doubt you
> would get any operational differences between any switch. I don't
> understand you question about IP addresses, switches don't have IP
> addresses assigned to them.

To expand on Steve's response, switches are dumb and don't assign IP
addresses, or have firewalls, or have NAT or DHCP etc - unless you buy a
very fancy and expensive one!

The simple Netgear 5-port switches (FS605 for example) would gain you 3
extra ports (1 is required for the uplink to your existing router and you
lose 1 on the existing router as the downlink to the switch). Other
manufacturer's switches are all similar.

BTW, you may hear about "hubs" - these are normally switches unless you buy
really old kit. There is a difference between a "real" hub and a switch but
I won't bore you about it. Linxsys for one mis-lable their switches as
hubs.

Paul DS.

Steve Pearce wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2006 08:35:21 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
> >Hi - I've recently purchased a Netgear DG834PN. However, I have used
> >up all the available LAN ports! I've done some research and discovered
> >that I could add a separate 'switch' to this setup, thus increasing the
> >number of LAN Ports.
> >
> >Can anyone suggest a good 'switch' to use with this router? Also, does
> >anyone foresee a problem with using a 'netgear switch' where both
> >devices would have assigned IP addresses of 192.168.0.1 as default?
>
> Switches are much of a muchness, just get a cheap one, I doubt you
> would get any operational differences between any switch. I don't
> understand you question about IP addresses, switches don't have IP
> addresses assigned to them.

Thanks everyone for your for your responses

The 'IP' issue was that the DG834 uses 192.168.0.1 IP address to access
the routers management console - I assume a switch wouldn't have this
(Such as the FS605 mentioned by Paul)

I think i will go for the Netgear FS608 switch (giving me 8 extra ports
so I dont run out again!)

Thanks again.

"Jim Howes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ehip4j$vt$1$(E-Mail Removed)...
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest a good 'switch' to use with this router? Also, does
>> anyone foresee a problem with using a 'netgear switch' where both
>> devices would have assigned IP addresses of 192.168.0.1 as default?
>
> A switch is a switch. Netgear, D-Link, mystery-brand, whatever. Most of
> the
> low end devices are based around the same components anyway.
>
> Switches do introduce a minimal delay; they have to inspect the target
> ethernet
> address in order to determine which port(s) to send the packet out on.
> However
> this difference is rarely noticeable in real terms.
>
> Switches do not have IP addresses, unless it is some kind of expensive
> managed
> switch that speaks IP. The vast majority of switches are layer two
> ethernet
> devices, and consequently do no packet filtering based on IP, NetBEUI,
> DECnet,
> Appletalk, or whatever protocol you happen to hurl around your internal
> network.

Switches with an IP address are the "managed" variety such as HP2524 -
typically £250 -ish. You can do clever things like trunking, setting fixed
half-duplex connections, and monitoring ports for errors. All very useful -
but only if you know you need such facilities.

--
Graham

Steve Pearce wrote:
> I don't
> understand you question about IP addresses, switches don't have IP
> addresses assigned to them.

Good switches do.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Also, does
> anyone foresee a problem with using a 'netgear switch' where both
> devices would have assigned IP addresses of 192.168.0.1 as default?

No, just change the default IP.

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:03:21 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband , Paul
Cupis <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Steve Pearce wrote:
>> I don't
>> understand you question about IP addresses, switches don't have IP
>> addresses assigned to them.
>
>Good switches do.

Correction: managed switches and routers do. Ordinary switches do not.
--
Mark McIntyre

>> I don't
>> understand you question about IP addresses, switches don't have IP
>> addresses assigned to them.
>
> Good switches do.

But not the ones the OP is interested in.

Peter Crosland