Recommend router

Was going for the netgear834g but its been out over a year so might be
long in tooth and missing new features?. anything newer/better?.

Additionally can anyone tell what the use of VOIP on routers means. i know
its voice over ip but how does this working exactly?. i currently use
messenger to voice chat wondering if this voip would be any use to me?

Mike wrote:

> Was going for the netgear834g but its been out over a year so might be
> long in tooth and missing new features?. anything newer/better?.
>
> Additionally can anyone tell what the use of VOIP on routers means. i
> know
> its voice over ip but how does this working exactly?. i currently use
> messenger to voice chat wondering if this voip would be any use to me?


You want to get a router with QoS (Quality of Service) feature
and also built in VoIP.

VoIP means Voice over IP at least you know that already.
To use it, you get an account from people like
www.voipfone.co.uk or www.voipbuster.com (search google for more).
and then someone like voipfone (though not all) will give you a free
telephone number and an account.
You then program that number and account into your voip router
and then plug a phone socket into the router (i.e. into the phone socket
not ethernet socket on the router), and you can make outgoing
calls and get incoming calls through with a standard phone.
You use it just like a normal phone - except you don't pay line
rental for phone if you already have just a broadband connection.

In a family of 5, you could have 5 phones set up like this one
for each person without incurring line rental charges for everyone.
Your uplink speed will determine how many simulataneous calls you
can make however. So make sure you get broadband that features
higher uplink speeds.

This is where good reasons begin to exist for LLU companies
to ensure they are provisioning
circuits and investing in cheaper SDSL modems rather than the
more expensive ADSL modems. ADSL is dead technology in the changing
world as more people buy into VoIP and soon video phones
and other technologies where customers will need the
higher uplink speeds.

You can also set up other VoIP solutions. If you have
ADSL modem with router already but no VoIP features, then you can plug in
something like a PAP2 or a Sipura 3000 VoIP router to get 2 voice lines.
If you have WiFI router or ADSL WiFI router, then you can also buy
WiFI telephones with built in VoIP. That way, you can move around the
house and still use your VoIP handset. But currently the WiFI handsets are
just a tad too expensive! You are better off with a DECT phone and a PAP2
as far I can tell.

"7" <(E-Mail Removed)>


bbwwwaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
7 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> You use it just like a normal phone - except you don't pay line
> rental for phone if you already have just a broadband connection.
>
That presumably only applies to people with a cable connection - 'cos with
BT you have to pay line rental to get a line on which to have ADSL - even if
you don't make any calls on the voice part of the line.

It's also not a good idea to be without a phone which will still function
without mains power - in case of emergency.
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:19:21 GMT, 7 <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Mike wrote:
>
>> Was going for the netgear834g but its been out over a year so might be
>> long in tooth and missing new features?. anything newer/better?.
>>
>> Additionally can anyone tell what the use of VOIP on routers means. i
>> know
>> its voice over ip but how does this working exactly?. i currently use
>> messenger to voice chat wondering if this voip would be any use to me?
>
>
>You want to get a router with QoS (Quality of Service) feature
>and also built in VoIP.
>
[snip]

Do tell me more about this QoS feature, something that is in my Draytek router
but I can't quite see how I can use it to my advantage.

David Bradley

Thus spaketh David Bradley:
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:19:21 GMT, 7
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Mike wrote:
>>
>>> Was going for the netgear834g but its been out over a year so
>>> might be long in tooth and missing new features?. anything
>>> newer/better?.
>>
>>
>> You want to get a router with QoS (Quality of Service) feature
>> and also built in VoIP.
>>
> [snip]
>
> Do tell me more about this QoS feature, something that is in my
> Draytek router but I can't quite see how I can use it to my advantage.
>
> David Bradley


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/...os.htm#1020550


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Tiscali Tim wrote:

> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> 7 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> You use it just like a normal phone - except you don't pay line
>> rental for phone if you already have just a broadband connection.
>>
> That presumably only applies to people with a cable connection - 'cos with
> BT you have to pay line rental to get a line on which to have ADSL - even
> if you don't make any calls on the voice part of the line.

With cable you are paying the 'line rental fee' as well, its
just not called that. You can imagine its not free to provision
and maintain a cable into everybody's house.

> It's also not a good idea to be without a phone which will still function
> without mains power - in case of emergency.


Mobiles even better, in case your phone wire is eaten by a rat.
I mean we can go on like this.
VoIP is great on costs, but you should always have a backup solution.

@ wrote:

>
> "7" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>
>
> bbwwwaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

what?

David Bradley wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:19:21 GMT, 7
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Mike wrote:
>>
>>> Was going for the netgear834g but its been out over a year so might be
>>> long in tooth and missing new features?. anything newer/better?.
>>>
>>> Additionally can anyone tell what the use of VOIP on routers means. i
>>> know
>>> its voice over ip but how does this working exactly?. i currently use
>>> messenger to voice chat wondering if this voip would be any use to me?
>>
>>
>>You want to get a router with QoS (Quality of Service) feature
>>and also built in VoIP.
>>
> [snip]
>
> Do tell me more about this QoS feature, something that is in my Draytek
> router but I can't quite see how I can use it to my advantage.

Simply put, you could be downloading a big file, and the router
will share its time between that and your VoIP packets of data.
Obviously, if it could give your voice packets more attention, then you
won't get interference like noises on your handset.
The QoS (Quality of Service) protocol ensures that the router
gives priority to VoIP packets of data.

"7" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:CBLLe.88837$(E-Mail Removed) k
> @ wrote:
>
> >
> > "7" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> >
> >
> > bbwwwaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>
> what?

It's just Stefan rambling again, ignore him.

Ivor