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Andrew Bellamy
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      05-12-2007, 08:08 AM
I am currently with Zen but they have recently limited downloads. Can anyone
recommend an ISP that still has unlimited downloads, not too concerned about
speed. I am currently on a 1Mbs connection and i think the maximum i can get
is 2Mbs.

Andy.


 
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      05-12-2007, 08:55 AM
On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:08:32 +0100 Andrew Bellamy
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> I am currently with Zen but they have recently limited downloads. Can anyone
> recommend an ISP that still has unlimited downloads, not too concerned about
> speed. I am currently on a 1Mbs connection and i think the maximum i can get
> is 2Mbs.


If you aren't concerned about speed, don't Zen have an unlimited 256k
package? They used to i believe.


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      05-12-2007, 09:04 AM

"Andrew Bellamy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I am currently with Zen but they have recently limited downloads. Can
>anyone
> recommend an ISP that still has unlimited downloads, not too concerned
> about
> speed. I am currently on a 1Mbs connection and i think the maximum i can
> get
> is 2Mbs.
>
> Andy.


I think you're pissing in the wind. Virtually every ISP, including cable,
now has a Fair Usage Policy in place, even though they advertise themselves
as "unlimited". The simple fatc is, bandwidth costs money, and the more they
use, the more BT (and other bandwidth sellers) charge them.

Good luck with your search

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      05-12-2007, 09:23 AM

"Flyer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I think you're pissing in the wind. Virtually every ISP, including cable,
> now has a Fair Usage Policy in place, even though they advertise
> themselves as "unlimited". The simple fatc is, bandwidth costs money, and
> the more they use, the more BT (and other bandwidth sellers) charge them.


Thats not entirely true.
ISP's do not pay per GB for transfer they pay for size of pipe or Mbit.
I know that we under utilise the bandwidth we have access to so its possible
to let a few customers use more without it costing us anything.
The issue is not going too close to the available limit on average so that
there is enough headroom to prevent an unexpected bill.

In fact connectivity ISP's have stacks of spare capacity in the upstream
direction because most of their traffic is coming the other way.


 
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      05-12-2007, 09:30 AM

"Gordon Hudson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Flyer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> I think you're pissing in the wind. Virtually every ISP, including cable,
>> now has a Fair Usage Policy in place, even though they advertise
>> themselves as "unlimited". The simple fatc is, bandwidth costs money, and
>> the more they use, the more BT (and other bandwidth sellers) charge them.

>
> Thats not entirely true.
> ISP's do not pay per GB for transfer they pay for size of pipe or Mbit.
> I know that we under utilise the bandwidth we have access to so its
> possible to let a few customers use more without it costing us anything.
> The issue is not going too close to the available limit on average so that
> there is enough headroom to prevent an unexpected bill.
>
> In fact connectivity ISP's have stacks of spare capacity in the upstream
> direction because most of their traffic is coming the other way.



What about Bt Total broadband option 3 which is unlimited and there is
nothing in the
fair use article about a limit just a reduction in speed at peak times.

Andy.


 
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      05-12-2007, 10:04 AM

"Andrew Bellamy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Gordon Hudson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "Flyer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>> I think you're pissing in the wind. Virtually every ISP, including
>>> cable, now has a Fair Usage Policy in place, even though they advertise
>>> themselves as "unlimited". The simple fatc is, bandwidth costs money,
>>> and the more they use, the more BT (and other bandwidth sellers) charge
>>> them.

>>
>> Thats not entirely true.
>> ISP's do not pay per GB for transfer they pay for size of pipe or Mbit.
>> I know that we under utilise the bandwidth we have access to so its
>> possible to let a few customers use more without it costing us anything.
>> The issue is not going too close to the available limit on average so
>> that there is enough headroom to prevent an unexpected bill.
>>
>> In fact connectivity ISP's have stacks of spare capacity in the upstream
>> direction because most of their traffic is coming the other way.

>
>
> What about Bt Total broadband option 3 which is unlimited and there is
> nothing in the
> fair use article about a limit just a reduction in speed at peak times.
>
> Andy.
>Also how about Tesco 2mb "unlimited" what restrictions are on this?.



 
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      05-12-2007, 10:45 AM
Am Sat, 12 May 2007 09:08:32 +0100 schrieb Andrew Bellamy:

> I am currently with Zen but they have recently limited downloads. Can anyone
> recommend an ISP that still has unlimited downloads, not too concerned about
> speed. I am currently on a 1Mbs connection and i think the maximum i can get
> is 2Mbs.


I switched to a small ISP called EFH broadband some months ago.
They offer an umlimited 512K service for 17.99 a month:
http://www.efhbroadband.com/broadband.asp
So far so good - the only problem was that the connection was cut off for a
while when they became part of 186k. Since then the service runs fine.
Andreas
 
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      05-12-2007, 11:00 AM

"Andrew Bellamy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> What about Bt Total broadband option 3 which is unlimited and there is
> nothing in the
> fair use article about a limit just a reduction in speed at peak times.


I don't know but it may be they restrict the amount you can download by
throttling the connection or by using strict contention of some sort.
This sometimes happens in Web hosting where you get a dedicated server with
unlimited downloads but on a port that can only pass a small amount of data.
Therefore its not really unlimited as there is only so much it can transfer.
You would need to check with the ISP.


 
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      05-12-2007, 11:37 AM
Gordon Hudson wrote:

>> I think you're pissing in the wind. Virtually every ISP, including cable,
>> now has a Fair Usage Policy in place, even though they advertise
>> themselves as "unlimited". The simple fatc is, bandwidth costs money, and
>> the more they use, the more BT (and other bandwidth sellers) charge them.


> Thats not entirely true.
> ISP's do not pay per GB for transfer they pay for size of pipe or Mbit.


While it's true that the ISP rents BT's network at fixed size pipes,
transit is normally paid at a per-data rate (95th percentile is most
common, which will rise with increased usage).

Higher usage translates directly into higher costs for the ISP unless
you're mowing purely over peering.

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      05-12-2007, 12:36 PM
"Andrew Bellamy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I am currently with Zen but they have recently limited downloads. Can
>anyone
> recommend an ISP that still has unlimited downloads, not too concerned
> about
> speed. I am currently on a 1Mbs connection and i think the maximum i can
> get
> is 2Mbs.


Just out of curiosity, what have Zen changed?


 
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