Re: wireless internet 1 third the speed of wired

Lord Kelvan wrote:

> hi i have just set up wireless in or place and what stumps me is that
> my connection is 1/3 the speed that it is when it is connected via a
> wire. my normal connection rate is ~16000kbps but it only transmits
> ~5000kbps. this does not matter how far the computer is away from the
> router. i am using a usb wireless transmitter my router is a di-624.
> my encryption is WEP 128bit
>
> please help.
>
> Regards
> Kelvan

Maybe the USB adapter is not getting sufficient DC power from the
connector.

Try running it from a powered hub.

A bad USB extension cable can also cause problems.

If the supplied power is not sufficient, the adapter speed will fall
back to USB1.

Lord Kelvan wrote:

> On Jan 31, 2:06*pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > > hi i have just set up wireless in or place and what stumps me is
> > > that my connection is 1/3 the speed that it is when it is
> > > connected via a wire. *my normal connection rate is ~16000kbps
> > > but it only transmits ~5000kbps. *this does not matter how far
> > > the computer is away from the router. *i am using a usb wireless
> > > transmitter my router is a di-624. my encryption is WEP 128bit
> >
> > > please help.
> >
> > > Regards
> > > Kelvan
> >
> > Maybe the USB adapter is not getting sufficient DC power from the
> > connector.
> >
> > Try running it from a powered hub.
> >
> > A bad USB extension cable can also cause problems.
> >
> > If the supplied power is not sufficient, the adapter speed will fall
> > back to USB1.
>
> tryed all different cables and even plugging it into the port
> directally still no difference
>
> as fior signal strength my strength at the moment is 54Mbps and the
> only other wireless transmitter is the cordless phone but that is on
> the 1.8GHz frequency and the router is on 2.4
>
> just ran a dsl speed report and this is the results if that helps
>
> down 399kbps
> up 799kbps
>
> normally when it is wired i get if the tester can manage to test it
> properly i get
>
> ~15000kbps down and the same as the wireless for up.
>
> what dosnt make sence to me is the up signal is very powerful but the
> down is weak.
>
> my data rate on my modem is
>
> down 15989 kbps
> up 944 kbps
>
> and i achieve thoes rates on a wired connection

What brand of USB adapter and chipset?

Are you using windows zero config nwetwork management for the adapter?

Lord Kelvan wrote:

> On Jan 31, 5:46*pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > > On Jan 31, 2:06 pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > > > > hi i have just set up wireless in or place and what stumps me
> > > > > is that my connection is 1/3 the speed that it is when it is
> > > > > connected via a wire. my normal connection rate is ~16000kbps
> > > > > but it only transmits ~5000kbps. this does not matter how far
> > > > > the computer is away from the router. i am using a usb
> > > > > wireless transmitter my router is a di-624. *my encryption is
> > > > > WEP 128bit
> >
> > > > > please help.
> >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Kelvan
> >
> > > > Maybe the USB adapter is not getting sufficient DC power from
> > > > the connector.
> >
> > > > Try running it from a powered hub.
> >
> > > > A bad USB extension cable can also cause problems.
> >
> > > > If the supplied power is not sufficient, the adapter speed will
> > > > fall back to USB1.
> >
> > > tryed all different cables and even plugging it into the port
> > > directally still no difference
> >
> > > as fior signal strength my strength at the moment is 54Mbps and
> > > the only other wireless transmitter is the cordless phone but
> > > that is on the 1.8GHz frequency and the router is on 2.4
> >
> > > just ran a dsl speed report and this is the results if that helps
> >
> > > down 399kbps
> > > up 799kbps
> >
> > > normally when it is wired i get if the tester can manage to test
> > > it properly i get
> >
> > > ~15000kbps down and the same as the wireless for up.
> >
> > > what dosnt make sence to me is the up signal is very powerful but
> > > the down is weak.
> >
> > > my data rate on my modem is
> >
> > > down 15989 kbps
> > > up *944 kbps
> >
> > > and i achieve thoes rates on a wired connection
> >
> > What brand of USB adapter and chipset?
> >
> > Are you using windows zero config nwetwork management for the
> > adapter?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> i am using an asus wl-167g usb adaptor. one of the few that works with
> windows xp sp3
>
> i am using asus's program for the connection but it makes no
> difference which one i use for the speed
>

> as for the chip set i am unsure which chip set you are referring to?


I wasn't aware of any problems with SP3 and XP with wifi adapters.

I use Realtek chipset USB adapters and they work fine with SP3 under XP.

The Asus wl-167g USB adapters use the Ralink chipset.

The Ralink driver should have it's own wifi management program.

It's always best to use the one supplied with the adapter, rather than
the Windows zero configuration option.

Sounds like you have that covered.

On 1/30/2010 7:01 PM, Lord Kelvan wrote:
> On Jan 31, 2:06 pm, "me here"<gloaming_ag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Lord Kelvan wrote:
>>> hi i have just set up wireless in or place and what stumps me is that
>>> my connection is 1/3 the speed that it is when it is connected via a
>>> wire. my normal connection rate is ~16000kbps but it only transmits
>>> ~5000kbps. this does not matter how far the computer is away from the
>>> router. i am using a usb wireless transmitter my router is a di-624.
>>> my encryption is WEP 128bit
>>
>>> please help.
>>
>>> Regards
>>> Kelvan
>>
>> Maybe the USB adapter is not getting sufficient DC power from the
>> connector.
>>
>> Try running it from a powered hub.
>>
>> A bad USB extension cable can also cause problems.
>>
>> If the supplied power is not sufficient, the adapter speed will fall
>> back to USB1.
>
> tryed all different cables and even plugging it into the port
> directally still no difference
>
> as fior signal strength my strength at the moment is 54Mbps and the
> only other wireless transmitter is the cordless phone but that is on
> the 1.8GHz frequency and the router is on 2.4
>
> just ran a dsl speed report and this is the results if that helps
>
> down 399kbps
> up 799kbps
>
> normally when it is wired i get if the tester can manage to test it
> properly i get
>
> ~15000kbps down and the same as the wireless for up.
>
> what dosnt make sence to me is the up signal is very powerful but the
> down is weak.
>
> my data rate on my modem is
>
> down 15989 kbps
> up 944 kbps
>
> and i achieve thoes rates on a wired connection
Just a thought, wireless entails encryption, wired is a straight through
connection. That takes overhead, and reduces your throughput.

Another thing is that wireless also take additional processing power
from the router. Again slowing the speed.

I had the same thing happen to me on a dlink unit. I switched to a new
unit with a faster processor and my speed went up. It is still slower
than wired, but much better.

"Lord Kelvan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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On Jan 31, 5:46 pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > On Jan 31, 2:06 pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > > > hi i have just set up wireless in or place and what stumps me is
> > > > that my connection is 1/3 the speed that it is when it is
> > > > connected via a wire. my normal connection rate is ~16000kbps
> > > > but it only transmits ~5000kbps. this does not matter how far
> > > > the computer is away from the router. i am using a usb wireless
> > > > transmitter my router is a di-624. my encryption is WEP 128bit
>
> > > > please help.
>
> > > > Regards
> > > > Kelvan
>
> > > Maybe the USB adapter is not getting sufficient DC power from the
> > > connector.
>
> > > Try running it from a powered hub.
>
> > > A bad USB extension cable can also cause problems.
>
> > > If the supplied power is not sufficient, the adapter speed will fall
> > > back to USB1.
>
> > tryed all different cables and even plugging it into the port
> > directally still no difference
>
> > as fior signal strength my strength at the moment is 54Mbps and the
> > only other wireless transmitter is the cordless phone but that is on
> > the 1.8GHz frequency and the router is on 2.4
>
> > just ran a dsl speed report and this is the results if that helps
>
> > down 399kbps
> > up 799kbps
>
> > normally when it is wired i get if the tester can manage to test it
> > properly i get
>
> > ~15000kbps down and the same as the wireless for up.
>
> > what dosnt make sence to me is the up signal is very powerful but the
> > down is weak.
>
> > my data rate on my modem is
>
> > down 15989 kbps
> > up 944 kbps
>
> > and i achieve thoes rates on a wired connection
>
> What brand of USB adapter and chipset?
>
> Are you using windows zero config nwetwork management for the adapter?-
> Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

i am using an asus wl-167g usb adaptor. one of the few that works with
windows xp sp3

i am using asus's program for the connection but it makes no
difference which one i use for the speed

as for the chip set i am unsure which chip set you are referring to?

----
what kind of computer & processor ?
I had a speed issue problem with a laptop and internal mini pci card
that "appeared" to be turning on & off frequently as "power saving".

I went into the hardware properties for the adapter,
and turned off the "power saving" feature,
and the speed issue seemed to go away....

Lord Kelvan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> i had a blekin wireless g adaptor it dosnt even install on windows xp
> sp3

I have two Belkin F5D7050 54G adapters on WinXP SP3 machines.
There have been no problems with drivers. One was installed on the PC
before SP3 came out, the other was installed this week, with SP3 already in
place.

As another poster mentioned, the cable that was supplied with the first
Belkin was thin, and I had problems with lockups that went away when I
substituted a commodity USB cable.

Belkin no longer supplies the little stand and wimpy cable. The
new adapter is plugged directly into a port on the back of the PC.

I installed the Belkin package, but elected to use Wireless Zero Config.
f5d7050v3_ww_03.00.07_w2.exe was downloaded from the Belkin site.
<http://en-us-support.belkin.com/app/product/list/q/network-adapters>

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
Product Type Belkin 54g Wireless USB Network Adapter

There are several variants of the same named adapter, with different
downloads for each. They might be completely different chipsets, requiring
different drivers, but that wouldn't be specific to SP3.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

On 1/31/2010 12:19 PM, Lord Kelvan wrote:
> On Feb 1, 6:28 am, Rich Johnson<ri...@remove.this.tairedd.com> wrote:
>> On 1/30/2010 7:01 PM, Lord Kelvan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2:06 pm, "me here"<gloaming_ag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Lord Kelvan wrote:
>>>>> hi i have just set up wireless in or place and what stumps me is that
>>>>> my connection is 1/3 the speed that it is when it is connected via a
>>>>> wire. my normal connection rate is ~16000kbps but it only transmits
>>>>> ~5000kbps. this does not matter how far the computer is away from the
>>>>> router. i am using a usb wireless transmitter my router is a di-624.
>>>>> my encryption is WEP 128bit
>>
>>>>> please help.
>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Kelvan
>>
>>>> Maybe the USB adapter is not getting sufficient DC power from the
>>>> connector.
>>
>>>> Try running it from a powered hub.
>>
>>>> A bad USB extension cable can also cause problems.
>>
>>>> If the supplied power is not sufficient, the adapter speed will fall
>>>> back to USB1.
>>
>>> tryed all different cables and even plugging it into the port
>>> directally still no difference
>>
>>> as fior signal strength my strength at the moment is 54Mbps and the
>>> only other wireless transmitter is the cordless phone but that is on
>>> the 1.8GHz frequency and the router is on 2.4
>>
>>> just ran a dsl speed report and this is the results if that helps
>>
>>> down 399kbps
>>> up 799kbps
>>
>>> normally when it is wired i get if the tester can manage to test it
>>> properly i get
>>
>>> ~15000kbps down and the same as the wireless for up.
>>
>>> what dosnt make sence to me is the up signal is very powerful but the
>>> down is weak.
>>
>>> my data rate on my modem is
>>
>>> down 15989 kbps
>>> up 944 kbps
>>
>>> and i achieve thoes rates on a wired connection
>>
>> Just a thought, wireless entails encryption, wired is a straight through
>> connection. That takes overhead, and reduces your throughput.
>>
>> Another thing is that wireless also take additional processing power
>> from the router. Again slowing the speed.
>>
>> I had the same thing happen to me on a dlink unit. I switched to a new
>> unit with a faster processor and my speed went up. It is still slower
>> than wired, but much better.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> but woudl that note why my up connection to the wireless is 700kbps
> and my down is 400kbps. or is it that there is no encryption on the
> up connection only on the down connection.
Maybe because the encryption on the upload happens in the computer? The
decryption would happen at the router though, but maybe it is a simpler
algorithm?

I really don't know, these are guesses. I do know when I went to a
newer type of router, my speed more than doubled.

Peter Pan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> fact that number is correct, that's about what 802.11 B does, I'd suspect
> you have something set to force it to B mode instead of b/g or g)

Weren't there some routers that dropped everybody to B if there was any B
connected?
Maybe forcing the router to G-only would be interesting.
A device might quit working that is only connecting at B for some reason.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5