Re: Traffic shaping (newbie question)

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Scott
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:25:57 +0000, Plusnet Support Team
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On 01/03/2010 21:45, Scott wrote:
>>> My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
>>> infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
>>> by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?
>>
>>Have you any particular ISP's in mind? If you have, then we might be
>>able to advise further.
>
>Zen Internet is the one I am thinking of. I see they came as Best Buy
>in Which magazine this month.


Don't believe all the crap that Which? print. I'm finding Zen to be
rather slow at peak periods - but at least they don't block text only
newsgroups
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
>
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:26:36 +0000, Alan <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
> Is it not the case that all ISPs are slow at peak times (like the
> motorway network) but the argument is that Zen are slowed down less
> (1) because you are paying more and (2) because they have capacity for
> business customers which tends to be underutilised during the
> evenings?

Exactly - they are all hit by capacity bottlenecks in the core network.
I moved to Zen from BT about 2 years ago (because of the Phorm spying
thing, and the crap offshored "Help desk"). It's the best business
decision I've made in years.

Any slowing is minimal, and Zen doesn't throttle specific port traffic.
Overall, I spend about £2 more per month. A bargain, I think, in terms
of service. BT aren't to be trusted - their recent record of sneaky
dealing and aggressive marketing speaks for itself.

Gaius wrote:
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
>> On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:26:36 +0000, Alan <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>> Is it not the case that all ISPs are slow at peak times (like the
>> motorway network) but the argument is that Zen are slowed down less
>> (1) because you are paying more and (2) because they have capacity for
>> business customers which tends to be underutilised during the
>> evenings?
>
> Exactly - they are all hit by capacity bottlenecks in the core network.
> I moved to Zen from BT about 2 years ago (because of the Phorm spying
> thing, and the crap offshored "Help desk"). It's the best business
> decision I've made in years.
>
> Any slowing is minimal, and Zen doesn't throttle specific port traffic.
> Overall, I spend about £2 more per month. A bargain, I think, in terms
> of service. BT aren't to be trusted - their recent record of sneaky
> dealing and aggressive marketing speaks for itself.
>

I moved to IDnet and the experience is similar. Generally get about 80%
of the BRAS in the day and 95% or more evenings.

No shaping I am aware of. Just costs for exra bandwidth used, but they
upped the limit recently, and I enver exceed it now.

I like the fact they do phones as well. Yes its still a BT line, but I
pay less for it than with BT.