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      12-03-2009, 02:49 AM
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:01:33 -0800 (PST), Robert Jacobs
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>On Dec 2, 2:47*pm, Aaron Leonard <Aa...@Cisco.COM> wrote:
>> ~ Thank you in advance for your help, experts.
>> ~
>> ~ I have a family friend that owns a small company with 2 locations (10
>> ~ pcs on one end, and 5 on the other). *They have static IP addresses -
>> ~ their internet connection is a Wireless connection (DSL and Cable not
>> ~ available).
>> ~
>> ~ He would like to setup some way for the PCs at both locations to be
>> ~ able to talk to each other. *I am thinking about purchasing 2 x Cisco
>> ~ 1811 routers, connecting them to the ethernet connection provided by
>> ~ the wireless devices located at each location, and setting up a site-
>> ~ to-site VPN connection using these devices.
>> ~
>> ~ First of all, does this sound like something that's workable/doable?
>> ~ Second, if it is doable, does anybody know these routers well enough
>> ~ to tell me if it is something that I should be able to do within the
>> ~ SDM (GUI), or if there will be a lot of command line configuration
>> ~ required. *And, finally, can anybody give me the steps I would have to
>> ~ perform to get this to work properly - or a website I can go to that
>> ~ will give me a step-by-step procedure to complete this task with these
>> ~ routers.
>> ~
>> ~ We don't have a ton of money, just enough for the equipment, and want
>> ~ to make sure it's something that will even be possible if the
>> ~ equipment is purchased in this scenario - before delving head first
>> ~ into it. *And if it is possible, we want to make sure it's something
>> ~ that we'll be able to actually do ourselves - hence the step-by-step
>> ~ procedures requested.
>> ~
>> ~ I am very tech savy, and actually had my CCNA quite a few years ago,
>> ~ so I know my way around most routers (for the most part). *However,
>> ~ things have changed, and I want to make sure I can handle this before
>> ~ commiting to him.
>> ~
>> ~ Thanks a bunch, experts - you're my saving grace...
>>
>> What kind of wireless are you talking about? *3G (CDMA/GSM)?
>>
>> That would be doable with a pair of pair of 3G-equipped 881s (or, more
>> expensively, with higher end routers with 3G HWICs - but not the 1811,
>> which doesn't have 3G.)http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/coll...0/ps10082/data...
>>
>> Set up the 3G cellular interface on each router to access your provider.
>> Then configure the IPsec tunnel between the sites. *Should work fine.
>>
>> I don't know whether or not SDM can configure the whole shebang. *In any
>> case, the routers should come with tech support to help you get it
>> set up.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Aaron

>
>Aaron, thanks. It's a wireless provider, not a cellular (3g)
>provider. It is basically radio waves that come into the building
>through a wireless receiver - and they basically give us an ethernet
>port. It's practially the same thing as DSL/Cable - except it's
>wireless... No cell phone cards or anything like that.
>
>I would also like to know how to "Then configure the IPsec tunnel
>between the sites. Should work fine.". That's the part I'm not sure
>on, and wondering if there's maybe a step-by-step procedure? Thanks
>again.


Robert,

My $.02 worth:

Having worked with Cisco routers in the past and also having setup
dozens and dozens of branch locations (mostly bank branches) we
eventually switched to low cost routers that offer VPN ability and
used the Netopia 33xx series. While they have a command line with
syntax quite similar to Cisco, they default to a telnet formatted
interface which allows full configuration including one or many VPN's.
They support all the features of most low-mid level Cisco's with the
exception of the proprietary options.

They tech support and online technical database is one of the best
I've seen. And, unlike Cisco, you don't have to pay an arm and a leg
every year. You could look at some at Netopia.com (now owned by
Motorola) and check out pricing at provantage.com. Look specifically
at the 3346-ENT models (or spend more on the 4622XL models - but these
are overkill for your needs).

Good luck
 
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      12-03-2009, 06:37 AM
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:49:02 -0500, bobmct <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:01:33 -0800 (PST), Robert Jacobs
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 2, 2:47*pm, Aaron Leonard <Aa...@Cisco.COM> wrote:
>>> ~ Thank you in advance for your help, experts.
>>> ~
>>> ~ I have a family friend that owns a small company with 2 locations (10
>>> ~ pcs on one end, and 5 on the other). *They have static IP addresses -
>>> ~ their internet connection is a Wireless connection (DSL and Cable not
>>> ~ available).
>>> ~
>>> ~ He would like to setup some way for the PCs at both locations to be
>>> ~ able to talk to each other. *I am thinking about purchasing 2 x Cisco
>>> ~ 1811 routers, connecting them to the ethernet connection provided by
>>> ~ the wireless devices located at each location, and setting up a site-
>>> ~ to-site VPN connection using these devices.
>>> ~
>>> ~ First of all, does this sound like something that's workable/doable?
>>> ~ Second, if it is doable, does anybody know these routers well enough
>>> ~ to tell me if it is something that I should be able to do within the
>>> ~ SDM (GUI), or if there will be a lot of command line configuration
>>> ~ required. *And, finally, can anybody give me the steps I would have to
>>> ~ perform to get this to work properly - or a website I can go to that
>>> ~ will give me a step-by-step procedure to complete this task with these
>>> ~ routers.
>>> ~
>>> ~ We don't have a ton of money, just enough for the equipment, and want
>>> ~ to make sure it's something that will even be possible if the
>>> ~ equipment is purchased in this scenario - before delving head first
>>> ~ into it. *And if it is possible, we want to make sure it's something
>>> ~ that we'll be able to actually do ourselves - hence the step-by-step
>>> ~ procedures requested.
>>> ~
>>> ~ I am very tech savy, and actually had my CCNA quite a few years ago,
>>> ~ so I know my way around most routers (for the most part). *However,
>>> ~ things have changed, and I want to make sure I can handle this before
>>> ~ commiting to him.
>>> ~
>>> ~ Thanks a bunch, experts - you're my saving grace...
>>>
>>> What kind of wireless are you talking about? *3G (CDMA/GSM)?
>>>
>>> That would be doable with a pair of pair of 3G-equipped 881s (or, more
>>> expensively, with higher end routers with 3G HWICs - but not the 1811,
>>> which doesn't have 3G.)http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/coll...0/ps10082/data...
>>>
>>> Set up the 3G cellular interface on each router to access your provider.
>>> Then configure the IPsec tunnel between the sites. *Should work fine.
>>>
>>> I don't know whether or not SDM can configure the whole shebang. *In any
>>> case, the routers should come with tech support to help you get it
>>> set up.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Aaron

>>
>>Aaron, thanks. It's a wireless provider, not a cellular (3g)
>>provider. It is basically radio waves that come into the building
>>through a wireless receiver - and they basically give us an ethernet
>>port. It's practially the same thing as DSL/Cable - except it's
>>wireless... No cell phone cards or anything like that.
>>
>>I would also like to know how to "Then configure the IPsec tunnel
>>between the sites. Should work fine.". That's the part I'm not sure
>>on, and wondering if there's maybe a step-by-step procedure? Thanks
>>again.

>
>Robert,
>
>My $.02 worth:
>
>Having worked with Cisco routers in the past and also having setup
>dozens and dozens of branch locations (mostly bank branches) we
>eventually switched to low cost routers that offer VPN ability and
>used the Netopia 33xx series. While they have a command line with
>syntax quite similar to Cisco, they default to a telnet formatted
>interface which allows full configuration including one or many VPN's.
>They support all the features of most low-mid level Cisco's with the
>exception of the proprietary options.
>
>They tech support and online technical database is one of the best
>I've seen. And, unlike Cisco, you don't have to pay an arm and a leg
>every year. You could look at some at Netopia.com (now owned by
>Motorola) and check out pricing at provantage.com. Look specifically
>at the 3346-ENT models (or spend more on the 4622XL models - but these
>are overkill for your needs).
>
>Good luck


He says he doesn't have DSL (or cable) available at these locations,
so I'll be curious to see how the 3346-ENT will work.

 
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