Re: NEWS: iPad pitch to the Wall Street Journal laid bare

In message <hm6rkg$7ak$(E-Mail Removed)> alexd
<(E-Mail Removed)> was claimed to have wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:32:49 -0500, Warren Oates wrote:
>
>> In article <hm47md$h2t$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>> alexd <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> Let's hope HTML5 gets some traction and eliminates the need for Flash,
>>> Silverlight, &c.
>>
>> So you'd happily move to h264,
>
>I hadn't even thought about video, TBH. You say 'move to', but Youtube's
>Flash videos [the only Flash video I watch] already use H.264.

Not all of Youtube is in H.264 yet, although most of it is.

>I was more interested in the vector graphics capabilities of HTML5. I
>know SVG covers that, eg:
>
>http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/
>
>but so long as it requires a significant proportion of users to fanny
>about installing plugins,

Flash also requires a plugin, so SVG is no worse off. However, SVG
support already exists in most modern browsers, only IE users need a
plug-in at this time. Were SVG to take off (and it's starting to in
some circles) IE might end up with SVG support simply to try and retain
what is left of it's shrinking market share.

In article <EDFhn.32959$e%(E-Mail Removed)>, Todd Allcock
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> >> If I want to
> >> watch, say, the last episode of "Lost" on Hulu, I need flash, at least
> >> until Hulu decides to roll out an App For That(tm).
> >
> > and they're reportedly doing just that
>
> IIRC, they've been "reportedly doing just that" for well over a year.

good apps take time. or maybe they're just slow. i think the real
question is how they want to market it.

> >> I'm not a fan of
> >> flash- I just want content. If that content is wrapped in flash, I need
> >> flash, at least until that content is offered in an alternative form.
> >
> > transitions sometimes are tough.
>
> Only if you make them tough. There's no good reason not to support both
> flash and HTML5 now, then wean yourself off of one in favor of the other
> later.

if you support both, there's very little reason for providers to bother
having two formats. it only prolongs (or avoids) the transition.

the real push for html5 is the fact that the iphone doesn't support
flash.

> All the "buggy" and "battery eating" problems can and should be
> end-user decisions.

those same end users will then bitch that they get crappy battery life
or it keeps crashing.

> Someday,
> decades from now, when we control our PCs by sheer power of thought alone,
> we won't need keyboards or mice, either. Are you ready to ditch yours today
> in anticipation?

the ipad is halfway there - no mouse or keyboard. as for thought
control, perhaps someone will make a dock accessory for that.

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:15:18 -0700, Todd Allcock wrote:

> I agree. Hulu has been blocking certain platforms (mobiles,
> internet-connected gaming systems) based on the device's User Agent
> (easy enough to circumvent for those who really want to.) My poison-pen
> email to Hulu about that got a form-letter reply about how the content
> providers consider those platforms a separate medium than the computer
> and hadn't finalized distribution plans (read: decided whether/how much
> to charge for access!)

Ironic that, because the BBC only offers un-DRMed content to iPhones,
which is successfully exploited by get_iplayer sending an iPhone UA
string.

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"Todd Allcock" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:d1Hhn.317$(E-Mail Removed):

> Hulu has been blocking certain platforms (mobiles,
> internet-connected gaming systems) based on the device's User Agent
> (easy enough to circumvent for those who really want to.) My
> poison-pen email to Hulu about that got a form-letter reply about how
> the content providers consider those platforms a separate medium than
> the computer and hadn't finalized distribution plans (read: decided
> whether/how much to charge for access!)
>

When you connect to Hulu on the N800 Linux tablet, it refuses to let you
watch and directs you to adobe.com for a "new version" of Flash that
doesn't exist for the tablets. There aren't many Flash-based websites that
won't work on the Maemo Linux tablets, but this is one of them.....dammit.



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