Re: NEWS: Apple sued over hot iPad shutdowns

On 2010-08-10 08:28:06 +0200, ZnU said:

> I also have a 3G iPad and haven't activated service yet; when I'm in my
> usual routine, I have WiFi 99% of the time I'd want Internet access on
> the iPad. But if I'm going out of town or I'm on-set for a couple of
> weeks (we do video production work), _then_ it becomes really useful.
> That's why the fact that the plans are month-to-month is so nice.

I just think your (as in, all you americans, not you specifically)
cellular plans are fucked up. I pay $80/month (VAT included) for
flatrate data and flatrate calls for my plan and twin card that share
the same flatrate data plan is included in the price, and I just went
to my providers home page and clicked "order micro-sim" and it was
posted to me free of charge as my twin card.

Unfortunately, the iPad hasn't been released here yet But when it
is, I'll be getting the 3G version (I have imported the wifi version
already) and have free data for it.




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Sandman[.net]

On 2010-08-10 11:58:15 +0200, ed said:

>> I just think your (as in, all you americans, not you specifically)
>> cellular plans are fucked up. I pay $80/month (VAT included) for
>> flatrate data and flatrate calls for my plan and twin card that share
>> the same flatrate data plan is included in the price, and I just went
>> to my providers home page and clicked "order micro-sim" and it was
>> posted to me free of charge as my twin card.
>
> unlimited (voice, data, txt) plans in the u.s. currently start in the
> $45-$50 range. on att, the ipad data plans were $30 unlimited when
> they existed ($25 for 2 gigs now); no shared extra-card plans, but
> unlimited data plans on other carriers start at about $40 (though i
> don't think anyone else has a micro sim at this point). so you're not
> really talking about a whole lot of difference in cost when it comes
> to the actual plans themselves.

And those numbers are VAT included and no commitment time? I can get
lower monthly if I commit to a 12/24/48 month plan, but I would never
do that...

VAT in Sweden is 25%. So if your prices are excluded VAT you'd have to
remove 25% from my price to compare (I don't pay VAT since I'm a
business, so...)


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Sandman[.net]

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:29:00 +0200, in
<(E-Mail Removed)>, Sandman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On 2010-08-10 08:28:06 +0200, ZnU said:
>
>> I also have a 3G iPad and haven't activated service yet; when I'm in my
>> usual routine, I have WiFi 99% of the time I'd want Internet access on
>> the iPad. But if I'm going out of town or I'm on-set for a couple of
>> weeks (we do video production work), _then_ it becomes really useful.
>> That's why the fact that the plans are month-to-month is so nice.
>
>I just think your (as in, all you americans, not you specifically)
>cellular plans are fucked up. I pay $80/month (VAT included) for
>flatrate data and flatrate calls for my plan and twin card that share
>the same flatrate data plan is included in the price, and I just went
>to my providers home page and clicked "order micro-sim" and it was
>posted to me free of charge as my twin card.

But not all US residents -- I pay less than you for unlimited data, free
nights and weekends, more anytime minutes than I'll ever need, and more,
with no contract.

(I presume you mean US residents, not "Americans" in other countries.)

>Unfortunately, the iPad hasn't been released here yet But when it
>is, I'll be getting the 3G version (I have imported the wifi version
>already) and have free data for it.

I use my Android mobile to tether notebook and netbook computers, which
better serve my needs than the iPad.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:28:35 +0200, in
<(E-Mail Removed)>, Sandman <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On 2010-08-10 11:58:15 +0200, ed said:
>
>>> I just think your (as in, all you americans, not you specifically)
>>> cellular plans are fucked up. I pay $80/month (VAT included) for
>>> flatrate data and flatrate calls for my plan and twin card that share
>>> the same flatrate data plan is included in the price, and I just went
>>> to my providers home page and clicked "order micro-sim" and it was
>>> posted to me free of charge as my twin card.
>>
>> unlimited (voice, data, txt) plans in the u.s. currently start in the
>> $45-$50 range. on att, the ipad data plans were $30 unlimited when
>> they existed ($25 for 2 gigs now); no shared extra-card plans, but
>> unlimited data plans on other carriers start at about $40 (though i
>> don't think anyone else has a micro sim at this point). so you're not
>> really talking about a whole lot of difference in cost when it comes
>> to the actual plans themselves.
>
>And those numbers are VAT included and no commitment time? ...

Yes.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]

On 10/08/10 2:58 AM, ed wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2:29 am, Sandman<m...@sandman.net> wrote:
>> On 2010-08-10 08:28:06 +0200, ZnU said:
>>> I also have a 3G iPad and haven't activated service yet; when I'm in my
>>> usual routine, I have WiFi 99% of the time I'd want Internet access on
>>> the iPad. But if I'm going out of town or I'm on-set for a couple of
>>> weeks (we do video production work), _then_ it becomes really useful.
>>> That's why the fact that the plans are month-to-month is so nice.
>>
>> I just think your (as in, all you americans, not you specifically)
>> cellular plans are fucked up. I pay $80/month (VAT included) for
>> flatrate data and flatrate calls for my plan and twin card that share
>> the same flatrate data plan is included in the price, and I just went
>> to my providers home page and clicked "order micro-sim" and it was
>> posted to me free of charge as my twin card.
>
> unlimited (voice, data, txt) plans in the u.s. currently start in the
> $45-$50 range.

This is true, but there are definite limitations on those low cost
voice/data/text plans. No tethering, a very limited selection of
handsets, and limited coverage.

On 10/08/10 9:32 AM, ZnU wrote:

<snip>

> MetroPCS has plans in that range, but 1) they only have coverage in
> major cities and 2) they're on CDMA, which limits device choice.

You can get unlimited on Verizon/Straight Talk for $45 a month and it
works in all native Verizon areas, but no roaming, even for voice, onto
other systems.

You can get Boost Mobile on CDMA for $50/month and it works in all
native Sprint areas, but no roaming, even for voice, onto other systems.
Virgin has the same thing for $60 a month.

On the Boost CDMA (not iDEN) plan, people have reported being able to
get customer service to switch their service to Sprint CDMA handsets
other than the ones that are offered with the Boost plan, and tethering
apparently does work.