Re: File sharing?

On 23/02/2010 16:23, Geoff Mills wrote:
> When using advanced file sharing on an XP (pro) network, does a remote
> user need to also have a user account on the computer they want to
> access?

Yes, unless the computer is configured with guest access to shares.

Have a look online (google, youtube, ebooks, eBay) for any study
materials covering the Microsoft MCDST exam 70-271 (Supporting users and
troubleshooting a Microsoft Windows XP Operating System).

The subject of XP user network permissions and folder permissions is
covered quite throughly (has to be!), and although you are probably not
putting yourself in for the exam (something which I should be doing
instead of wibbling about here) I think you'll the material useful.

Hmmm, Anyone reading this got a hot link to an online study guide?

In theory MS should have this on their website somewhere, or in the
'Help and Support' resource on the computer. Not everyone who is a
'computer user' should be looking at course books to find out how to use
a machine!!

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Adrian C

On 24/02/2010 09:23, Geoff Mills wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:02:33 +0000, Adrian C<(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>> On 23/02/2010 16:23, Geoff Mills wrote:
>>> When using advanced file sharing on an XP (pro) network, does a remote
>>> user need to also have a user account on the computer they want to
>>> access?
>>
>> Yes, unless the computer is configured with guest access to shares.
>
> Of the variations I've been trying the most frequently used is:
> "Everyone" (which I understand includes Guest) Full Control as a
> share. Then "Everyone" with just read and write access in the NTFS
> permissions. This along with fuller access to some individual users
> and groups in the same NTFS permissions.
>
>> Have a look online (google, youtube, ebooks, eBay) for any study
>> materials covering the Microsoft MCDST exam 70-271 (Supporting users and
>> troubleshooting a Microsoft Windows XP Operating System).
>
> Thanks, I'll go in search of that one.
>
>> The subject of XP user network permissions and folder permissions is
>> covered quite throughly (has to be!), and although you are probably not
>> putting yourself in for the exam (something which I should be doing
>> instead of wibbling about here) I think you'll the material useful.
>
> As some of the more general sources of info often seem contradictory,
> I'm relying more than usual on MS for this purpose.
>
>> Hmmm, Anyone reading this got a hot link to an online study guide?
>>
>> In theory MS should have this on their website somewhere, or in the
>> 'Help and Support' resource on the computer. Not everyone who is a
>> 'computer user' should be looking at course books to find out how to use
>> a machine!!
>
> In this household, that great liberator, the PC, has always demanded
> massively more attention for itself than has been allocated to all
> other subjects put together, so far.
Hit and Miss with XP Pro is my experience, I have 4 PCs with identical
setups , account names and passwords.
However to share a folder and/or a printer the admin password is
required ( I have ended up using a .bat file with Net use commands in
Startup).
However none of the PCs have any problems accessing a share on another
PC with no matching accounts.

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:58:16 +0000
Geoff Mills <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> At least you seem to have some sort of working relationship with AFS.
> I've had to revert to SFS just so I can get some work done.
> Still, frequently running into folder access problems as a result,
> which usually require me to keep going back to AFS, take ownership,
> redo permissions and back out again.
> I've learnt a lot from the experience. Pity that so far, it hasn't
> been enough to benefit from Advanced File Sharing.

There are alternative file sharing/transfer methods you might want to
consider. I'd be inclined to try the NFS client and server that comes
in Windows Services for Unix (free download from MS), but I've never
played with them so I don't know how practical that might be. Otherwise
there's always plain FTP, or the SSH File Transfer Protocol, and
probably a few others that are open and freely available.

On 27/02/2010 08:20, Geoff Mills wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:13:48 +0000, Rob Morley<(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:58:16 +0000
>> Geoff Mills<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> At least you seem to have some sort of working relationship with AFS.
>>> I've had to revert to SFS just so I can get some work done.
>>> Still, frequently running into folder access problems as a result,
>>> which usually require me to keep going back to AFS, take ownership,
>>> redo permissions and back out again.
>>> I've learnt a lot from the experience. Pity that so far, it hasn't
>>> been enough to benefit from Advanced File Sharing.
>>
>> There are alternative file sharing/transfer methods you might want to
>> consider. I'd be inclined to try the NFS client and server that comes
>> in Windows Services for Unix (free download from MS), but I've never
>> played with them so I don't know how practical that might be. Otherwise
>> there's always plain FTP, or the SSH File Transfer Protocol, and
>> probably a few others that are open and freely available.
>
> Thanks, that'll be a nice little project.:-)
I had always used Samba running under Sun Solaris for file and printer
sharing in my previous "job" and found it very robust, reliable and very
flexible in controlling access by machine, user especially if changes to
passwords are not frequently required.

On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:07:58 +0000
robert <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I had always used Samba running under Sun Solaris for file and
> printer sharing in my previous "job" and found it very robust,
> reliable and very flexible in controlling access by machine, user
> especially if changes to passwords are not frequently required.

That's great for providing compatibility with Windows file and printer
sharing for Unix-like operating systems, but what do you do when the
Windows file sharing is screwed?

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:26:21 +0000
robert <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On 28/02/2010 03:28, Rob Morley wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:07:58 +0000
> > robert<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> I had always used Samba running under Sun Solaris for file and
> >> printer sharing in my previous "job" and found it very robust,
> >> reliable and very flexible in controlling access by machine, user
> >> especially if changes to passwords are not frequently required.
> >
> > That's great for providing compatibility with Windows file and
> > printer sharing for Unix-like operating systems, but what do you do
> > when the Windows file sharing is screwed?
> >
> True
> Samba is only any good if you are going to use a central file server.
> Windows file server problems seem to be at the " server" PC in my
> limited experience !

And when the machine providing the SMB service is a Windows workstation,
what are you going to tell the user when he finds you've turned it into
a Linux server?