Re: Android Mobile device in USA without a phone?

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:50:36 GMT, in
<Xns9DD37877029Darcademastergmailcom@69.16.186.8 >, SINNER
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I dont need a phone and I'd like to get a device to play with but of course
>I'd like one with 2.1 on it.
>
>All I want is wifi and the ability to use the google marketplace.
>
>Does such a device exist at a reasonable price and available in the USA?
>
>I would think a device like that could get a grip on some good market share
>for people that want the device but dont need a phone and dont want an i
>whatever.

There are low cost Chinese Android tablet iPad workalikes (e.g., aPad,
ePad, etc) available on eBay; e.g., <http://goo.gl/S4Hw>

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* John Navas wrote in misc.phone.mobile.android:

> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:50:36 GMT, in
> <Xns9DD37877029Darcademastergmailcom@69.16.186.8 >, SINNER
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I dont need a phone and I'd like to get a device to play with but of
>>course I'd like one with 2.1 on it.
>>
>>All I want is wifi and the ability to use the google marketplace.
>>
>>Does such a device exist at a reasonable price and available in the
>>USA?
>>
>>I would think a device like that could get a grip on some good market
>>share for people that want the device but dont need a phone and dont
>>want an i whatever.
>
> There are low cost Chinese Android tablet iPad workalikes (e.g., aPad,
> ePad, etc) available on eBay; e.g., <http://goo.gl/S4Hw>
>

Hmmm, many of those sellers have little or no history. I was hoping for a
reputable retailer. Guess Im stuck waiting. Thanks for the pointer.

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:37:37 GMT, in
<Xns9DD3806FB2FAEarcademastergmailcom@69.16.186.8> , SINNER
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>* John Navas wrote in misc.phone.mobile.android:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:50:36 GMT, in
>> <Xns9DD37877029Darcademastergmailcom@69.16.186.8 >, SINNER
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>I dont need a phone and I'd like to get a device to play with but of
>>>course I'd like one with 2.1 on it.
>>>
>>>All I want is wifi and the ability to use the google marketplace.
>>>
>>>Does such a device exist at a reasonable price and available in the
>>>USA?
>>>
>>>I would think a device like that could get a grip on some good market
>>>share for people that want the device but dont need a phone and dont
>>>want an i whatever.
>>
>> There are low cost Chinese Android tablet iPad workalikes (e.g., aPad,
>> ePad, etc) available on eBay; e.g., <http://goo.gl/S4Hw>
>>
>
>Hmmm, many of those sellers have little or no history. I was hoping for a
>reputable retailer. Guess Im stuck waiting. Thanks for the pointer.

Google is your friend: <http://www.google.com/products?q=android+tablet>

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* John Navas wrote in misc.phone.mobile.android:

> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:37:37 GMT, in
> <Xns9DD3806FB2FAEarcademastergmailcom@69.16.186.8> , SINNER
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>

[Devices available on Ebay]

>>Hmmm, many of those sellers have little or no history. I was hoping
>>for a reputable retailer. Guess Im stuck waiting. Thanks for the
>>pointer.
>
> Google is your friend:
> <http://www.google.com/products?q=android+tablet>
>

Damn, beaten at my own game

Any chance you have any personal experience with any of the recent
models. I see the Archos one is restricted from Google marketplace which
is a killer for my wish list.

I am sad that I missed a KMART special of the latest released on and see
that very same one on Ebay at a pretty prfit for a guy that bought 5 of
them.

I have been wanting a laptop for the living room but then the iPAD came
out and I was excited by what it would trigger in the market place but it
seems the market is slow to respond. Everyone seems to be releasing one
'soon', but im impatient and the forced phone tie in would also be a
killer for me since I dont need/want a phone.

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 20:22:52 GMT, in
<Xns9DD39C73B573Aarcademastergmailcom@69.16.186.8> , SINNER
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>* John Navas wrote in misc.phone.mobile.android:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:37:37 GMT, in
>> <Xns9DD3806FB2FAEarcademastergmailcom@69.16.186.8> , SINNER
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>[Devices available on Ebay]
>
>>>Hmmm, many of those sellers have little or no history. I was hoping
>>>for a reputable retailer. Guess Im stuck waiting. Thanks for the
>>>pointer.
>>
>> Google is your friend:
>> <http://www.google.com/products?q=android+tablet>
>
>Damn, beaten at my own game
>
>Any chance you have any personal experience with any of the recent
>models. ...

Not yet.

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* Peter Pan wrote in alt.internet.wireless:

> "SINNER" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns9DD39C73B573Aarcademastergmailcom@69.16.18 6.8...
>
>> Damn, beaten at my own game
>>
>> Any chance you have any personal experience with any of the recent
>> models. I see the Archos one is restricted from Google marketplace
>> which is a killer for my wish list.
>>
>> I am sad that I missed a KMART special of the latest released on and
>> see that very same one on Ebay at a pretty prfit for a guy that
>> bought 5 of them.
>>
>> I have been wanting a laptop for the living room but then the iPAD
>> came out and I was excited by what it would trigger in the market
>> place but it seems the market is slow to respond. Everyone seems to
>> be releasing one 'soon', but im impatient and the forced phone tie in
>> would also be a killer for me since I dont need/want a phone.
>>
>
>
> just out of curiosity, why an android? got an ipod at walmart on
> sale/no phone built in, (they sell droids online too, but all look
> like they have phones)... works with google and wifi, and i installed
> skype on it.... used skype on my nokia tablet, laptop, ipod, now
> ipod.... heck now i wonder if they have an app for a droid
>
>

Well, you asked. Im not here to start a flame war. I am not an Apple fan,
and I am a Linux fan. I have tossed around the idea of an ipod but Im
really looking for something larger in size comparable to the ipad. I
prefer a mor open system that dosent require me to hack it to do what I
want.

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* Peter Pan wrote in alt.internet.wireless:

> "SINNER" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns9DD65A3074A28arcademastergmailcom@69.16.18 6.8...
>
>>>
>>>
>>> just out of curiosity, why an android? got an ipod at walmart on
>>> sale/no phone built in, (they sell droids online too, but all look
>>> like they have phones)... works with google and wifi, and i
>>> installed skype on it.... used skype on my nokia tablet, laptop,
>>> ipod, now ipod.... heck now i wonder if they have an app for a droid
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, you asked. Im not here to start a flame war. I am not an Apple
>> fan, and I am a Linux fan. I have tossed around the idea of an ipod
>> but Im really looking for something larger in size comparable to the
>> ipad. I prefer a mor open system that dosent require me to hack it to
>> do what I want.
>>
>
>
> i'm confused, they have been making and selling linux tablets since
> 2003, they aren't ipads or droids, why not get one of them?
>

Sorry for the confusion. in 2003 they were nothing more than PC's in a
new form factor and per the subject, I want an android device which was
not around in 2003 either. The ones I am seeing now that are closer to
what I want seem to be mostly available from foreign sources, have very
few favorable reviews, dont run the latest Android 2.1 (now 2.2).

The ones available locally are older versions of the OS, seem to be
locked out of google market place and many require a cell phone contract
as well, I want wi-fi only.

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>

* Peter Pan wrote in alt.internet.wireless:

> so you want a tablet that has small display (ipod like), large display
> (ipad like) device, liteweight, that works with linux, and doesnt
> have a phone...

Uhm, your a bit over done. Perhaps rereading my original post might help.
I asked for an android tablet, without a phone that could connect to
google market place. iPOD/Pad was brought in later and not by me.

>
> point is do you want a small screen (like an ipod), or a big screen
> (like an ipad) (droid has a small screen)
> bigger check these out (bit pricey, but has pix), other manufacterers
> make many other similar, but couldn't find pix
> http://www.emperorlinux.com/systems/tablet/


I want an android device running 2.1 or greater without a phone that
connects to google marketplace that I can get from a reputable retailer.
Not Ebay, not some guy in China out of his basement.

>
> smaller i have and use these with my wifi at home (nokia n800 and
> n810 linux tablets, available from amazon, use skype and a headset for
> voice calls)
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Communic...phone-Navigato
> r/dp/B001VY9H1W/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1282415929&s r=8-1
> 4
>
> Nokia N810 Portable Personal Communicator/Internet Tablet/Wi-Fi Pocket
> PC/MP3/MP4/Audio/Video Player with 4.3" LCD Widescreen/Qwerty
> Keyboard/Webcam/Built-in Microphone/GPS Navigator

Looks like to get Android on those, you have to install it.

>
> bunch of other links, if curious, goto amazon and search on linux
> tablet (got 19 hits just on that)
>

[...]

> not sure why you think its only available if
> its at your local store on a shelf :?(..

I dont recall saying that either. I didnt think I was asking for
something so rare. 2 weeks ago apparenlty KMART had a tablet but it was
1.6 and could not connect to GM. I do see a guy sellinig that tablet on
EBAY after he scoffed 4 of them up and is now charging a nice premium.
The Dell Streak would be almost OK but it requires a contract with ATT or
its over priced for my need without one and it only has 1.6 currently.

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>

* Peter Pan wrote in alt.internet.wireless:

> I want an Android tablet ... but not Dell's
> Where is the large, slim and powerful competitor to the iPad?

That pretty much sums up my question.

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* John Navas wrote in alt.internet.wireless:

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:02:28 GMT, in
> <Xns9DDE51C21FFD5arcademastergmailcom@69.16.186.8> , SINNER
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>* Peter Pan wrote in alt.internet.wireless:
>>
>>> I want an Android tablet ... but not Dell's
>>> Where is the large, slim and powerful competitor to the iPad?
>>
>>That pretty much sums up my question.
>
> Perhaps this will be the answer:
> <http://www.reghardware.com/2010/08/24/samsung_galaxy_tab/>
>

I did see that as well today. Here is to hoping it doesnt require some cell
phone company tie in to make it 'affordable'

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