rank newbie question

I just got my first wireless connection a few minutes back. Says it's
"excellent, 11.0 mbps." My browsers, however, just go searching for for
my broadband login, ignoring the wifi.

Do I need to configure the browser (i'm using Mozilla Tbird) and/or
email client to get it to work with wifi? Or is something else the
hangup here?

Appreciate your advice, will roll with any flames.

czyp

On Sun, 29 May 2005 01:58:17 GMT, czyp <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I just got my first wireless connection a few minutes back. Says it's
>"excellent, 11.0 mbps." My browsers, however, just go searching for for
>my broadband login, ignoring the wifi.

Control Panel -> Internet Options -> Internet Options

Check the box labeled "never dial a connection"

Also, go down to the "Lan Settings" button, and uncheck the
"Automatically Detect Settings" which is only used if you have a proxy
server.

If you are using a local PPPoE dialer (Enternet 300 or XP PPPoE) on
your computah, the setup is quite different.

>Do I need to configure the browser (i'm using Mozilla Tbird)

No. The browsers should all work without modification.

>and/or
>email client to get it to work with wifi?

Maybe. If you've changed ISP's between your previous dialup ISP and
your broadband ISP, the outgoing SMTP mail servers will probably
change.

>Or is something else the
>hangup here?

Hard to tell. You didn't supply the name of the operating system, the
make and model numbers of the hardware, your broadband setup, or any
background.


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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff - Thanks, and apologies for the skeletal description - I wanted to
keep it short. That was good information.

However, it's true, I'm using XP PPPoE. The hardware is a Dell Wireless
WLAN 1350 PC card. The connection is firewalled.

I've unchecked "never dial a connection" - "Automatically Detect
Settings" was not checked. Since I'm on XP PPPoE, which you tell me is
different, do you have any further counsel in this?

Thanks again ...

czyp

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> If you are using a local PPPoE dialer (Enternet 300 or XP PPPoE) on
> your computah, the setup is quite different.>



>
> Hard to tell. You didn't supply the name of the operating system, the
> make and model numbers of the hardware, your broadband setup, or any
> background.
>
>

Yikes, I mean, I have *checked* "never dial a connection," per your
instructions.

czyp wrote:
> Jeff - Thanks, and apologies for the skeletal description - I wanted to
> keep it short. That was good information.
>
> However, it's true, I'm using XP PPPoE. The hardware is a Dell Wireless
> WLAN 1350 PC card. The connection is firewalled.
>
> I've unchecked "never dial a connection" - "Automatically Detect
> Settings" was not checked. Since I'm on XP PPPoE, which you tell me is
> different, do you have any further counsel in this?
>
> Thanks again ...
>
> czyp
>
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>> If you are using a local PPPoE dialer (Enternet 300 or XP PPPoE) on
>> your computah, the setup is quite different.>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Hard to tell. You didn't supply the name of the operating system, the
>> make and model numbers of the hardware, your broadband setup, or any
>> background.
>>
>>

On Sun, 29 May 2005 03:29:22 GMT, czyp <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Jeff - Thanks, and apologies for the skeletal description - I wanted to
>keep it short.

Too short. Numbers are helpful.

>However, it's true, I'm using XP PPPoE. The hardware is a Dell Wireless
>WLAN 1350 PC card. The connection is firewalled.

Yeah, but you didn't supply the maker and model number of the wireless
router. Therefore, I can't offer specific suggestions.

>I've unchecked "never dial a connection" - "Automatically Detect
>Settings" was not checked. Since I'm on XP PPPoE, which you tell me is
>different, do you have any further counsel in this?

I still don't know what equipment you're working with. My guess(tm)
is that you have a wireless router of some sorts. The router should
be doing the PPPoE login to your ISP, not the XP desktop. Dive into
the web based router configuration and setup the WAN (internet)
configuration for PPPoE with your account name and password. If setup
that way, you don't have to do anything on the workstation and you can
uninstall or ignore the XP PPPoE client.

There's also a small chance that you only have a DSL modem and a
wireless access point (no router). If this is the case, your existing
PPPoE client is required to connect to the internet. If you have more
than one computah, this is a bad idea as only one machine can connect
to the internet at a time (unless you have multiple accounts and your
ISP can supply more than one routeable IP address).

So, what do you have for hardware, how many computahs, and how do you
have it all derranged?


--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Small chance but that's how it is - one computer, one wireless card, a
dsl modem (thru which I'm i'm talking to you here) and a non-secure link
to a network called 'airporthru.' No router. I'm just trying to access
the web through a wap, like everyone else in the world, so it seems from
passing the local coffee shops.
>
>
>
>>However, it's true, I'm using XP PPPoE. The hardware is a Dell Wireless
>>WLAN 1350 PC card. The connection is firewalled.
>
>
> There's also a small chance that you only have a DSL modem and a
> wireless access point (no router). If this is the case, your existing
> PPPoE client is required to connect to the internet. If you have more
> than one computah, this is a bad idea as only one machine can connect
> to the internet at a time (unless you have multiple accounts and your
> ISP can supply more than one routeable IP address).
>
> So, what do you have for hardware, how many computahs, and how do you
> have it all derranged?
>
>

On Sun, 29 May 2005 15:35:25 GMT, czyp <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>Small chance but that's how it is - one computer, one wireless card, a
>dsl modem (thru which I'm i'm talking to you here) and a non-secure link
>to a network called 'airporthru.' No router. I'm just trying to access
>the web through a wap, like everyone else in the world, so it seems from
>passing the local coffee shops.

There are three differences between your derrangement and a coffee
shop hot spot.

1. ALL coffee shops have NAT routers. This allows connection of more
than one computah and possibly client to client isolation.

2. If a PPPoE DSL line is involved, then the router does the PPPoE
login, not the client computer.

3. Most coffee shops do not use encryption on their wireless link.
You should to keep hackers like me out of your system.

As long as you don't have a router to do the PPPoE login cerimony,
you're client will need to do it. Every time you run a program that
needs internet access, it will bring up the PPPoE client (dialer) and
try to dial out. It will be going up and down all the time.

In addition, I vaguely recall that XP has a weird concept of "default
network connection" or something like that. Go to:
Control Panel -> Network
and right click on the PPPoE connection icon. I think there's a
"default connection" setting, but I'm not sure (no XP box in front of
me right now).

My (free) advice is to spend the money on an an ethernet router or
possibly a wireless router. Since you already have a wireless access
point, either will work. Let the router do the PPPoE login. You'll
also be able to connect more than one computer, and get some security
from attack via the internet.

I'm not sure who "airporthru" is, but I would get permission from the
owner before using their connection.

Good luck.

--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Thanks for your (free)work in this - looks to me as if I need to just go
to the internet cafe's or libraries or wherever the routers are. You've
given me a fair amount of context to work with, though, and I appreciate it.

cheers




> On Sun, 29 May 2005 15:35:25 GMT, czyp <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>
>>Small chance but that's how it is - one computer, one wireless card, a
>>dsl modem (thru which I'm i'm talking to you here) and a non-secure link
>>to a network called 'airporthru.' No router. I'm just trying to access
>>the web through a wap, like everyone else in the world, so it seems from
>>passing the local coffee shops.
>
>
> There are three differences between your derrangement and a coffee
> shop hot spot.
>
> 1. ALL coffee shops have NAT routers. This allows connection of more
> than one computah and possibly client to client isolation.
>
> 2. If a PPPoE DSL line is involved, then the router does the PPPoE
> login, not the client computer.
>
> 3. Most coffee shops do not use encryption on their wireless link.
> You should to keep hackers like me out of your system.
>
> As long as you don't have a router to do the PPPoE login cerimony,
> you're client will need to do it. Every time you run a program that
> needs internet access, it will bring up the PPPoE client (dialer) and
> try to dial out. It will be going up and down all the time.
>
> In addition, I vaguely recall that XP has a weird concept of "default
> network connection" or something like that. Go to:
> Control Panel -> Network
> and right click on the PPPoE connection icon. I think there's a
> "default connection" setting, but I'm not sure (no XP box in front of
> me right now).
>
> My (free) advice is to spend the money on an an ethernet router or
> possibly a wireless router. Since you already have a wireless access
> point, either will work. Let the router do the PPPoE login. You'll
> also be able to connect more than one computer, and get some security
> from attack via the internet.
>
> I'm not sure who "airporthru" is, but I would get permission from the
> owner before using their connection.
>
> Good luck.
>

Possably an "Apple Airport" defualt SID ???


"Jeff Liebermann" wrote

> I'm not sure who "airporthru" is,

On Mon, 30 May 2005 12:50:26 GMT, "Will-Lee-Cue" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Possably an "Apple Airport" defualt SID ???

Or Herington Regional airport near Kansas City, KS.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/HRU

Drivel: One of my friends was war driving through Beverly Hills while
bumming money from his relatives and thought it might be possible to
publish a book such as "SSID's of the Rich and Famous". However, when
he tried it, he found that most of the SSID's were set to the usual
defaults.

>"Jeff Liebermann" wrote
>
>> I'm not sure who "airporthru" is,
>

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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558