Question about sending emails at work and at home

I am self-employed and access my email both at home and at work. My ISP is
Demon.

When I had a dial-up connection at home and at work, I was able to send and
receive emails at both sites using the one account.

Earlier this year I changed to Broadband at home. I am still able to
retrieve my emails at work using another ISP (Force 9) but the only way I
can send them using my normal email address is to use Demon Dial-up
companion which charges me 5p for every minute I'm on line.

I now want to change to Broadband at work, but if I understand the situation
corrrectly, even if I stick with Demon, I will need to set up a completely
separate account, and therefore will have to use a different host name.
Presumably I will still be able to receive emails addressed to my original
account, but what happens if I want to send emails? Won't I be sending
emails with a different address which is going to confuse recipients? I.e.
currently my email address is [my name]@[old host name].demon.co.uk. I
assume that to send emails from work I would need to use [my name]@[new host
name].demon.co.uk

Am I right in this? If so, is there any solution?

[Apologies if I'm being particularly thick]
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"Hungerdunger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
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> I am self-employed and access my email both at home and
> at work. My ISP is Demon.
>
> When I had a dial-up connection at home and at work, I
> was able to send and receive emails at both sites using
> the one account.
>
> Earlier this year I changed to Broadband at home. I am
> still able to retrieve my emails at work using another
> ISP (Force 9) but the only way I can send them using my
> normal email address is to use Demon Dial-up companion
> which charges me 5p for every minute I'm on line.
>
> I now want to change to Broadband at work, but if I
> understand the situation corrrectly, even if I stick with
> Demon, I will need to set up a completely separate
> account, and therefore will have to use a different host
> name. Presumably I will still be able to receive emails
> addressed to my original account, but what happens if I
> want to send emails? Won't I be sending emails with a
> different address which is going to confuse recipients?
> I.e. currently my email address is [my name]@[old host
> name].demon.co.uk. I assume that to send emails from
> work I would need to use [my name]@[new host
> name].demon.co.uk
>
> Am I right in this? If so, is there any solution?
>
> [Apologies if I'm being particularly thick]

Can't see why you'd have a problem. I've used my Orange email and
Freeserve accounts in the UK, Germany and the USA, all on broadband
connections, all with no problems.

Ivor

In article <449d5332$0$3532$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Hungerdunger says...
> I am self-employed and access my email both at home and at work. My ISP is
> Demon.
>
> When I had a dial-up connection at home and at work, I was able to send and
> receive emails at both sites using the one account.
>
> Earlier this year I changed to Broadband at home. I am still able to
> retrieve my emails at work using another ISP (Force 9) but the only way I
> can send them using my normal email address is to use Demon Dial-up
> companion which charges me 5p for every minute I'm on line.
>
> I now want to change to Broadband at work, but if I understand the situation
> corrrectly, even if I stick with Demon, I will need to set up a completely
> separate account, and therefore will have to use a different host name.
> Presumably I will still be able to receive emails addressed to my original
> account, but what happens if I want to send emails? Won't I be sending
> emails with a different address which is going to confuse recipients? I.e.
> currently my email address is [my name]@[old host name].demon.co.uk. I
> assume that to send emails from work I would need to use [my name]@[new host
> name].demon.co.uk
>
> Am I right in this? If so, is there any solution?
>
> [Apologies if I'm being particularly thick]
>
smtp servers should accept outgoing mail from an IP address in their
pool without any difficulty.

So to use the Demon smtp server you would need to be connected via a
Demon IP address. Unless they employ some strange
authentication/filtering you should be fine. It is the IP address which
matters, it has to be in the access list for the server to accept the
connection.

That is what authenticates you to their server as an authorised user,
and why you can't send email through their server when you are using a
Force9/Pusnet IP.

It helps prevent spam and abuse. If a user misbehaves, then Demon will
be able to track who it was from their logs and terminate them easily.
Only Demon account holders can obtain and use a Demon IP address.

FR

Hungerdunger wrote:
> I am self-employed and access my email both at home and at work. My ISP is
> Demon.
>
> When I had a dial-up connection at home and at work, I was able to send and
> receive emails at both sites using the one account.
>
> Earlier this year I changed to Broadband at home. I am still able to
> retrieve my emails at work using another ISP (Force 9) but the only way I
> can send them using my normal email address is to use Demon Dial-up
> companion which charges me 5p for every minute I'm on line.
>
> I now want to change to Broadband at work, but if I understand the situation
> corrrectly, even if I stick with Demon, I will need to set up a completely
> separate account, and therefore will have to use a different host name.
> Presumably I will still be able to receive emails addressed to my original
> account, but what happens if I want to send emails? Won't I be sending
> emails with a different address which is going to confuse recipients? I.e.
> currently my email address is [my name]@[old host name].demon.co.uk. I
> assume that to send emails from work I would need to use [my name]@[new host
> name].demon.co.uk
>
> Am I right in this? If so, is there any solution?
>
The easiest thing to do is set up a machine with an IMAP server at one
location and arrange that it collects all your email. Then you can log
on from anywhere with an IMAP client (Thunderbird is cross-platform,
even OE can do it) and collect mail from the central point. Because the
mail sits on your server you're able to get to all of it from anywhere.
You'll still need a second account at work unless there's some other
form of net access already there.

For outgoing, some ISPs don't care what you've got in the From: field
so you might still be able to claim to be at your proper address. If not,
just set up an SMTP server on the same machine as the IMAP server and
use it with one of the SMTP authentication methods to validate that it's
you connecting so it will relay the mail. (Get this bit right though, or
you'll end up being used for spamming!). It should be trivial to get
Linux running on an old PC with IMAP and SMTP, it wouldn't even need a
monitor and keyboard most of the time.

--
Dave
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http://www.llondel.org
So many gadgets, so little time

Hungerdunger wrote:
> I am self-employed and access my email both at home and at work. My ISP is
> Demon.
>
> When I had a dial-up connection at home and at work, I was able to send and
> receive emails at both sites using the one account.
>
> Earlier this year I changed to Broadband at home. I am still able to
> retrieve my emails at work using another ISP (Force 9) but the only way I
> can send them using my normal email address is to use Demon Dial-up
> companion which charges me 5p for every minute I'm on line.

Your default SMTP server needs to be the one belonging to the ISP
service who you are using at that time, i.e. at work default needs to be
smtp.force9.xxxxx When your at home default smtp server needs to be
smtp.demon.xxxxxx

It doesn't matter what pop server you use at home or work as they are
called up individually, however ISP's will not allow you access to their
smtp server when you are not logged on to them (the ISP whose smtp
server you want to use).

> I now want to change to Broadband at work, but if I understand the situation
> corrrectly, even if I stick with Demon, I will need to set up a completely
> separate account, and therefore will have to use a different host name.
> Presumably I will still be able to receive emails addressed to my original
> account, but what happens if I want to send emails? Won't I be sending
> emails with a different address which is going to confuse recipients? I.e.
> currently my email address is [my name]@[old host name].demon.co.uk. I
> assume that to send emails from work I would need to use [my name]@[new host
> name].demon.co.uk
>
> Am I right in this? If so, is there any solution?

Again it's all down to the smtp settings, as long as the smtp server
you're using to send emails is the same as the ISP you are logged onto
then it does not matter what email addy you are sending from. I don't
use Outlook Express so I cant tell you how to set the default smtp
server, I imagine it's by going to your user account and making sure the
smtp server set as 'default' matches the ISP service your logged onto
and of course the same at work.

So at work your default smtp server should belong to Force 9 and at home
your default smtp server should belong to Demon.

Charlie

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Ivor Jones
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

>> I.e. currently my email address is [my name]@[old host
>> name].demon.co.uk. I assume that to send emails from
>> work I would need to use [my name]@[new host
>> name].demon.co.uk
>>
>> Am I right in this? If so, is there any solution?

It the configuration on your own machine that sets the 'from' and 'reply
to' addresses for any email that you send.

Just configure your email program to pretend to be [my name]@[old
hostname].demon.co.uk when connected via another ISP or a different
account.

Any return email will be sent back to your original Demon account.



--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

"Alan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Ivor Jones
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
> > > I.e. currently my email address is [my name]@[old host
> > > name].demon.co.uk. I assume that to send emails from
> > > work I would need to use [my name]@[new host
> > > name].demon.co.uk
> > >
> > > Am I right in this? If so, is there any solution?

Actually I didn't write that, the OP did. Please trim correctly.

Ivor

On 24-Jun-2006, "Hungerdunger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Am I right in this? If so, is there any solution?

Most "providers of connections" be they hotels, businesses, or ISP's,
only allow you to send emails where the bit that comes after the @
is in their domain.
So I can send emails from {my-tesco name}@tesco.net when connected to Tesco.net
I can send emails from {my-freeserve name-1}@(myusername-1}.freeserve.co.uk when
connected to Freeserve
I can send emails from {my-freeserve name-2}@(myusername-2}.fsnet.co.uk when connected
to Freeserve
Otherwise I get an "Unable to relay" error message.
It also hits if I read mail on Freeserve, and get a message directed to my Tesco
identity,
it trys to reply from my Tesco identity, and gets the "Unable to relay" because I'm
connected
to Freeserve and not Tesco.
It's so that ISP's can't be used as relays by junk mailers.
Things can/could be configured as what are called "Open relays" but often these open
relays are by accident, where a server hasn't been configured correctly to block
relaying.
There are sites, for spammers, that list open relays.
Often these only exist for a few days, otherwise you are funding someone elses
junk mail bandwidth charges.
I have several email accounts, partly for this reason, and partly some are used as
spam sinks. Some addresses I give out, keeping other email addresses for trusted
contacts.

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:59:07 +0100, "Hungerdunger"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I am self-employed and access my email both at home and at work. My ISP is
>Demon.
>
>When I had a dial-up connection at home and at work, I was able to send and
>receive emails at both sites using the one account.
>
>Earlier this year I changed to Broadband at home. I am still able to
>retrieve my emails at work using another ISP (Force 9) but the only way I
>can send them using my normal email address is to use Demon Dial-up
>companion which charges me 5p for every minute I'm on line.
>
>I now want to change to Broadband at work, but if I understand the situation
>corrrectly, even if I stick with Demon, I will need to set up a completely
>separate account, and therefore will have to use a different host name.
>Presumably I will still be able to receive emails addressed to my original
>account, but what happens if I want to send emails? Won't I be sending
>emails with a different address which is going to confuse recipients? I.e.
>currently my email address is [my name]@[old host name].demon.co.uk. I
>assume that to send emails from work I would need to use [my name]@[new host
>name].demon.co.uk
>
>Am I right in this? If so, is there any solution?
>
>[Apologies if I'm being particularly thick]


Would it be impractical to use the demon webmail service while at work

"Hungerdunger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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Many thanks to everyone for taking the time to reply and giving me some
useful advice.
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