Q: WPC11 128-bit WEP w/o Linksys utility?

Hi all,

I have a Linksys WPC11v3 running 128-bit WEP successfully under 98SE
.... but I'm unhappy with the way it works.

The card works in plain mode as configured by Windows, but in order to
enable WEP I have to run the Linksys utility program "wpc11cfg.exe"
whenever the hardware is (re)initialized or the signal is lost and AP
reassociation is necessary. The program tries to remain resident as a
monitor, but it consumes far too many resources to leave running and
it appears that once the card has been configured it can be safely
terminated without affecting WEP.

However, the program appears flaky and crashes immediately about 10%
of the time. The crash isn't fatal and doesn't take the whole machine
down but I do have to stop whatever I'm doing and reboot to restore
full functionality. I have no other problems with the machine - apart
from this one stupid program everything is quite stable.


I've tried unsuccessfully to configure WEP w/o the utility, using the
network CPA to set the SSID, channel, etc. and then entering hex WEP
hex directly into the registry. I've included the device entries from
the registry below (SSID and WEP key values are falsified).

Q: Are the WEP key values in the registry obfuscated in some way or
are they just the raw string of hex digits?



The computer is too old and limited to handle a newer OS, but works
fine as is for rolodex, note taking, light browsing, etc. It has all
the 98 OS updates, IE6 and the latest WPC11 drivers and software.

Is WEP simply impossible on 98SE without using additional software?
If so, is there some other, more stable, configuration utility I could
use instead of wpc11cfg?

Thanks,
George


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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Net\0001]
"DriverDesc"="Instant Wireless Network PC Card V3.0"
"NTMPDriver"="LSWLNDS.sys"
"DevLoader"="*ndis,*ntkern,*ndis"
"DeviceVxDs"="LSWLNDS.sys"
"EnumPropPages"="netdi.dll,EnumPropPages"
"BusType"="8"
"IOBaseAddress"=hex:02,00,00,00
"InterruptNumber"=hex:04,00,00,00
"EnableIRQSharing"=hex:01,00,00,00
"VendorDesc"="Instant Wireless Network PC Card V3.0"
"ListenInterval"="3"
"RTSThresh"="500"
"FragThresh"="1500"
"PreambleMode"="1"
"AuthentAlg"="2"
"PSMode"="1"
"APDensity"="1"
"SSID"="myssid"
"StationName"="Contura"
"DSChannel"="6"
"Encapsulation"="1"
"TxRate"="15"
"NetworkType"="1"
"WepReq"="6"
"EncryptInDriver"="1"
"DecryptInDriver"="1"
"WEPFactor"="3"
"Esarhpssap"=""
"IBSSInDriver"="0"
"WEP64_KEY_1"="0000000000"
"WEP64_KEY_2"="0000000000"
"WEP64_KEY_3"="0000000000"
"WEP64_KEY_4"="0000000000"
"WEP128_KEY_1"="0123456789ABCDEF0123456789"
"WEP128_KEY_2"="0123456789ABCDEF0123456789"
"WEP128_KEY_3"="0123456789ABCDEF0123456789"
"WEP128_KEY_4"="0123456789ABCDEF0123456789"
"CurProfile"="default"
"InfSection"="WPC11_2.ndi"
"InfPath"="LINKSY~1.INF"
"ProviderName"="Linksys"
"DriverDate"=" 5-16-2002"
"MatchingDeviceId"="PCMCIA\\THE_LINKSYS_GROUP__INC .-INSTANT_WIRELESS_NETWORK_PC_CARD-0C0B"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Net\0001\NDIS]
"LogDriverName"="WPC11"
"MajorNdisVersion"=hex:03
"MinorNdisVersion"=hex:0a

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Net\0001\NDI]
"CardType"="PCMCIA"
"DeviceID"="PCMCIA\\THE_LINKSYS_GROUP__INC.-INSTANT_WIRELESS_NETWORK_PC_CARD-0C0B"
"InstallInf"=""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Net\0001\NDI\Interfaces]
"DefUpper"="ndis3"
"DefLower"="ethernet"
"UpperRange"="ndis3"
"LowerRange"="ethernet"
"Upper"="ndis3"
"Lower"="ethernet"

----



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George Neuner <gneuner2/@comcast.net> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Hi all,
>
> I have a Linksys WPC11v3 running 128-bit WEP successfully under 98SE
> ... but I'm unhappy with the way it works.
>
> The card works in plain mode as configured by Windows, but in order to
> enable WEP I have to run the Linksys utility program "wpc11cfg.exe"
> whenever the hardware is (re)initialized or the signal is lost and AP
> reassociation is necessary. The program tries to remain resident as a
> monitor, but it consumes far too many resources to leave running and
> it appears that once the card has been configured it can be safely
> terminated without affecting WEP.
>
> However, the program appears flaky and crashes immediately about 10%
> of the time. The crash isn't fatal and doesn't take the whole machine
> down but I do have to stop whatever I'm doing and reboot to restore
> full functionality. I have no other problems with the machine - apart
> from this one stupid program everything is quite stable.

That may be true, but the crash prone Win 9'x O/S may be contributing to
it as well.

>
>
> I've tried unsuccessfully to configure WEP w/o the utility, using the
> network CPA to set the SSID, channel, etc. and then entering hex WEP
> hex directly into the registry. I've included the device entries from
> the registry below (SSID and WEP key values are falsified).
>
> Q: Are the WEP key values in the registry obfuscated in some way or
> are they just the raw string of hex digits?

I would think they are just hex digits but I couldn't say for sure.

>
>
>
> The computer is too old and limited to handle a newer OS, but works
> fine as is for rolodex, note taking, light browsing, etc. It has all
> the 98 OS updates, IE6 and the latest WPC11 drivers and software.

The machine may not be good enough for wireless technology either it
looks like. I had a Windows ME wireless laptop using the WPC11 V1 card
and the O/S crashed and burned when the wind blew on the frequencies. I
switched the machine to NT based technology and have not looked back.

>
> Is WEP simply impossible on 98SE without using additional software?
> If so, is there some other, more stable, configuration utility I could
> use instead of wpc11cfg?

There may be some other utility to set up the WPC11 V3 card, which you
can do all the setup on a NT based O/S without the card's utility with no
problems.

Duane

On Thu, 19 May 2005 06:36:07 GMT, Duane Arnold <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>George Neuner <gneuner2/@comcast.net> wrote in
>news:(E-Mail Removed) :
>
>> The computer is too old and limited to handle a newer OS, but works
>> fine as is for rolodex, note taking, light browsing, etc. It has all
>> the 98 OS updates, IE6 and the latest WPC11 drivers and software.
>
>The machine may not be good enough for wireless technology either it
>looks like. I had a Windows ME wireless laptop using the WPC11 V1 card
>and the O/S crashed and burned when the wind blew on the frequencies. I
>switched the machine to NT based technology and have not looked back.

I have no problems at all once I run the gauntlet of wpc11cfg. Once
the card is configured everything just works ... albiet a bit slowly.


>> Is WEP simply impossible on 98SE without using additional software?
>> If so, is there some other, more stable, configuration utility I could
>> use instead of wpc11cfg?
>
>There may be some other utility to set up the WPC11 V3 card, which you
>can do all the setup on a NT based O/S without the card's utility with no
>problems.

The machine is limited to 20MB of RAM ... I don't think I could even
install ME on it, never mind an NT based system.

George
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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, George Neuner
<gneuner2/@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I have a Linksys WPC11v3 running 128-bit WEP successfully under 98SE
>... but I'm unhappy with the way it works.
>
>The card works in plain mode as configured by Windows, but in order to
>enable WEP I have to run the Linksys utility program "wpc11cfg.exe"
>whenever the hardware is (re)initialized or the signal is lost and AP
>reassociation is necessary. The program tries to remain resident as a
>monitor, but it consumes far too many resources to leave running and
>it appears that once the card has been configured it can be safely
>terminated without affecting WEP.
>
>However, the program appears flaky and crashes immediately about 10%
>of the time. The crash isn't fatal and doesn't take the whole machine
>down but I do have to stop whatever I'm doing and reboot to restore
>full functionality. I have no other problems with the machine - apart
>from this one stupid program everything is quite stable.
>
>
>I've tried unsuccessfully to configure WEP w/o the utility, using the
>network CPA to set the SSID, channel, etc. and then entering hex WEP
>hex directly into the registry. I've included the device entries from
>the registry below (SSID and WEP key values are falsified).
>
>Q: Are the WEP key values in the registry obfuscated in some way or
>are they just the raw string of hex digits?
>
>The computer is too old and limited to handle a newer OS, but works
>fine as is for rolodex, note taking, light browsing, etc. It has all
>the 98 OS updates, IE6 and the latest WPC11 drivers and software.
>
>Is WEP simply impossible on 98SE without using additional software?
>If so, is there some other, more stable, configuration utility I could
>use instead of wpc11cfg?
>
>Thanks,
>George

I sympathize with you, George.

I've had so many problems trying to get Linksys wireless networking
hardware/software to work on several versions of Windows that I won't
buy it or recommend it to my consulting clients. If someone buys it
and asks me to install it, I state up front that I can't guarantee
that it will work.

Download and install the latest Win98SE driver and utility software
from the Linksys web site.

I recommend replacing the Linksys card. I've had good luck on Windows
98SE with wireless hardware from Motorola and Netgear.
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Go to the following link to find out why you should NOT use WEP!!!!!!!

http://www.tomshardware.com/column/20050518/index.html


"George Neuner" <gneuner2/@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Linksys WPC11v3 running 128-bit WEP successfully under 98SE
> ... but I'm unhappy with the way it works.
>
> The card works in plain mode as configured by Windows, but in order to
> enable WEP I have to run the Linksys utility program "wpc11cfg.exe"
> whenever the hardware is (re)initialized or the signal is lost and AP
> reassociation is necessary. The program tries to remain resident as a
> monitor, but it consumes far too many resources to leave running and
> it appears that once the card has been configured it can be safely
> terminated without affecting WEP.
>
> However, the program appears flaky and crashes immediately about 10%
> of the time. The crash isn't fatal and doesn't take the whole machine
> down but I do have to stop whatever I'm doing and reboot to restore
> full functionality. I have no other problems with the machine - apart
> from this one stupid program everything is quite stable.
>
>
> I've tried unsuccessfully to configure WEP w/o the utility, using the
> network CPA to set the SSID, channel, etc. and then entering hex WEP
> hex directly into the registry. I've included the device entries from
> the registry below (SSID and WEP key values are falsified).
>
> Q: Are the WEP key values in the registry obfuscated in some way or
> are they just the raw string of hex digits?
>
>
>
> The computer is too old and limited to handle a newer OS, but works
> fine as is for rolodex, note taking, light browsing, etc. It has all
> the 98 OS updates, IE6 and the latest WPC11 drivers and software.
>
> Is WEP simply impossible on 98SE without using additional software?
> If so, is there some other, more stable, configuration utility I could
> use instead of wpc11cfg?
>
> Thanks,
> George
>
>
> ----
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Net\0001]
> "DriverDesc"="Instant Wireless Network PC Card V3.0"
> "NTMPDriver"="LSWLNDS.sys"
> "DevLoader"="*ndis,*ntkern,*ndis"
> "DeviceVxDs"="LSWLNDS.sys"
> "EnumPropPages"="netdi.dll,EnumPropPages"
> "BusType"="8"
> "IOBaseAddress"=hex:02,00,00,00
> "InterruptNumber"=hex:04,00,00,00
> "EnableIRQSharing"=hex:01,00,00,00
> "VendorDesc"="Instant Wireless Network PC Card V3.0"
> "ListenInterval"="3"
> "RTSThresh"="500"
> "FragThresh"="1500"
> "PreambleMode"="1"
> "AuthentAlg"="2"
> "PSMode"="1"
> "APDensity"="1"
> "SSID"="myssid"
> "StationName"="Contura"
> "DSChannel"="6"
> "Encapsulation"="1"
> "TxRate"="15"
> "NetworkType"="1"
> "WepReq"="6"
> "EncryptInDriver"="1"
> "DecryptInDriver"="1"
> "WEPFactor"="3"
> "Esarhpssap"=""
> "IBSSInDriver"="0"
> "WEP64_KEY_1"="0000000000"
> "WEP64_KEY_2"="0000000000"
> "WEP64_KEY_3"="0000000000"
> "WEP64_KEY_4"="0000000000"
> "WEP128_KEY_1"="0123456789ABCDEF0123456789"
> "WEP128_KEY_2"="0123456789ABCDEF0123456789"
> "WEP128_KEY_3"="0123456789ABCDEF0123456789"
> "WEP128_KEY_4"="0123456789ABCDEF0123456789"
> "CurProfile"="default"
> "InfSection"="WPC11_2.ndi"
> "InfPath"="LINKSY~1.INF"
> "ProviderName"="Linksys"
> "DriverDate"=" 5-16-2002"
>
"MatchingDeviceId"="PCMCIA\\THE_LINKSYS_GROUP__INC .-INSTANT_WIRELESS_NETWORK
_PC_CARD-0C0B"
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Net\0001\NDIS]
> "LogDriverName"="WPC11"
> "MajorNdisVersion"=hex:03
> "MinorNdisVersion"=hex:0a
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Net\0001\NDI]
> "CardType"="PCMCIA"
>
"DeviceID"="PCMCIA\\THE_LINKSYS_GROUP__INC.-INSTANT_WIRELESS_NETWORK_PC_CARD
-0C0B"
> "InstallInf"=""
>
>
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Net\0001\NDI\Int
erfaces]
> "DefUpper"="ndis3"
> "DefLower"="ethernet"
> "UpperRange"="ndis3"
> "LowerRange"="ethernet"
> "Upper"="ndis3"
> "Lower"="ethernet"
>
> ----
>
>
>
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On Mon, 23 May 2005 03:39:07 -0400, "Chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"George Neuner" <gneuner2/@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a Linksys WPC11v3 running 128-bit WEP successfully under 98SE
>> ... but I'm unhappy with the way it works.
>
>Go to the following link to find out why you should NOT use WEP!!!!!!!
>
>http://www.tomshardware.com/column/20050518/index.html
>
>

It doesn't say don't use WEP it just advises to use something better.

But since the machine in question is win98 which doesn't come with
built in wireless support then the OP must use a linksys utility and
since this utility doesn't include support for anything better, then
WEP is as good as it gets without upgrading the operating system or
the hardware. By the sound of it, neither of these is an option for
the OP.

Although WEP is poor and a determined and knowledgable hacker could
break it, it is infinitely better than no encryption at all which
would leave the network at the mercy of any old jack the lad.


Jim.

> It doesn't say don't use WEP it just advises to use something better.
>
> But since the machine in question is win98 which doesn't come with
> built in wireless support then the OP must use a linksys utility and
> since this utility doesn't include support for anything better, then
> WEP is as good as it gets without upgrading the operating system or
> the hardware. By the sound of it, neither of these is an option for
> the OP.
>
> Although WEP is poor and a determined and knowledgable hacker could
> break it, it is infinitely better than no encryption at all which
> would leave the network at the mercy of any old jack the lad.
>
>

Anyone can hack WEP!

http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article118.php
http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article120.php




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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, James Egan
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 May 2005 03:39:07 -0400, "Chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>"George Neuner" <gneuner2/@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a Linksys WPC11v3 running 128-bit WEP successfully under 98SE
>>> ... but I'm unhappy with the way it works.
>>
>>Go to the following link to find out why you should NOT use WEP!!!!!!!
>>
>>http://www.tomshardware.com/column/20050518/index.html
>
>It doesn't say don't use WEP it just advises to use something better.
>
>But since the machine in question is win98 which doesn't come with
>built in wireless support then the OP must use a linksys utility and
>since this utility doesn't include support for anything better, then
>WEP is as good as it gets without upgrading the operating system or
>the hardware. By the sound of it, neither of these is an option for
>the OP.
>
>Although WEP is poor and a determined and knowledgable hacker could
>break it, it is infinitely better than no encryption at all which
>would leave the network at the mercy of any old jack the lad.
>
>
>Jim.

The easiest way I know of to get WPA on Windows 98 is with Motorola
wireless networking equipment:

http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...networking.asp

I've installed Motorola for myself and my clients. It's much easier
to set up and much more reliable than Linksys.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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On Mon, 23 May 2005 15:22:45 -0400, "Chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Anyone can hack WEP!

Nonsense!

Yes it's hackable. By anyone, no.

If joining someone else's network is your aim, there are enough
completely unencrypted networks around to make cracking a wep network
not worthwhile.


Jim.
..