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Mike
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      06-18-2008, 06:32 AM
My profile was reduced from 7000 to 4000 on the 11th June. For the last 6
months I have always got between 6400 &7200 on tests. Now get between 3800 &
just managed 4200 this morning. Could uploading a small amount of data
(about 22kb) every 10 seconds 24/7 have caused or be responsible for the
profile remaining low?. Would it help to shut the router down overnight as I
understand that is when sync tests take place.

TIA Mick


 
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      06-18-2008, 07:23 AM


Mike wrote:

> My profile was reduced from 7000 to 4000 on the 11th June. For the last 6
> months I have always got between 6400 &7200 on tests. Now get between 3800 &
> just managed 4200 this morning. Could uploading a small amount of data
> (about 22kb) every 10 seconds 24/7 have caused or be responsible for the
> profile remaining low?. Would it help to shut the router down overnight as I
> understand that is when sync tests take place.


What provider ? LLU or not ?

Graaham

 
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      06-18-2008, 07:38 AM

"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My profile was reduced from 7000 to 4000 on the 11th June. For the last 6
> months I have always got between 6400 &7200 on tests. Now get between 3800
> & just managed 4200 this morning. Could uploading a small amount of data
> (about 22kb) every 10 seconds 24/7 have caused or be responsible for the
> profile remaining low?. Would it help to shut the router down overnight as
> I understand that is when sync tests take place.


My connection has done the same ... at about the same date.
Went from the usual 6.5Mb to 4Mb.
I've sent Demon a couple of emails, but their only response is for me to
call their inbred cretin in "technical support".


 
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      06-18-2008, 08:36 AM

"Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Mike wrote:
>
>> My profile was reduced from 7000 to 4000 on the 11th June. For the last 6
>> months I have always got between 6400 &7200 on tests. Now get between
>> 3800 &
>> just managed 4200 this morning. Could uploading a small amount of data
>> (about 22kb) every 10 seconds 24/7 have caused or be responsible for the
>> profile remaining low?. Would it help to shut the router down overnight
>> as I
>> understand that is when sync tests take place.

>
> What provider ? LLU or not ?
>
> Graaham
>
>

Sorry for lack of info - no LLU - Plusnet, who responded quickly and say it
should go up in a few days or if it is stuck then get back to them. The
question I was interested in was if the data upload could be having an
affect as the problem appeared round about the same time I tried uploading
every 10 seconds. . If it is I could knock it down to daytime only or
increase the periods to 2 minutes. The data currently is 20kb every 20 secs
and 2 other lots of data every 120 secs all to different address's.

Mick


 
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      06-18-2008, 08:43 AM
> > My profile was reduced from 7000 to 4000 on the 11th June. For the last
> > 6
> > months I have always got between 6400 &7200 on tests. Now get between
> > 3800
> > & just managed 4200 this morning.


My experience has been that a short burst of noise can severely
degrade your sync speed.I look at my ADSL spectrum display
and it is as it's always been. It can take the best part of a week
before whatever algorithm they use sees that the noise has gone,
and sync spped suddenly jumps up to its former value, often a bit
higher, stays like that for a while, then drops back one step
to as you were originally, having found its preferred SNR figure.
Suspected, but not fully proven, if I swap in a different, spare,
ADSL modem, it sees a different box amy end, so forcing
a retrain. Then put the original box back, forcing another retrain,
and the sync speed is much better, but still takes a little while
before you get your highest sync speed back.
There are different makes of DSLAM so I can't say if they all
act the same, and their algorithms are a mystery, why does
it take so long to recover after a noise burst, yet it is quick
to respond to the burst.?
 
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      06-18-2008, 08:50 AM

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>> > My profile was reduced from 7000 to 4000 on the 11th June. For the last
>> > 6
>> > months I have always got between 6400 &7200 on tests. Now get between
>> > 3800
>> > & just managed 4200 this morning.

>
> My experience has been that a short burst of noise can severely
> degrade your sync speed.I look at my ADSL spectrum display
> and it is as it's always been. It can take the best part of a week
> before whatever algorithm they use sees that the noise has gone,
> and sync spped suddenly jumps up to its former value, often a bit
> higher, stays like that for a while, then drops back one step
> to as you were originally, having found its preferred SNR figure.
> Suspected, but not fully proven, if I swap in a different, spare,
> ADSL modem, it sees a different box amy end, so forcing
> a retrain. Then put the original box back, forcing another retrain,
> and the sync speed is much better, but still takes a little while
> before you get your highest sync speed back.
> There are different makes of DSLAM so I can't say if they all
> act the same, and their algorithms are a mystery, why does
> it take so long to recover after a noise burst, yet it is quick
> to respond to the burst.?
>

I've got a spare modem/router so if it doesn't go up by the weekend I'll try
swapping them and see what happens - thanks for that.

Mick


 
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      06-18-2008, 10:58 AM


Mike wrote:

> "Eeyore" wrote
> >
> >> My profile was reduced from 7000 to 4000 on the 11th June. For the last 6
> >> months I have always got between 6400 &7200 on tests. Now get between
> >> 3800 &
> >> just managed 4200 this morning. Could uploading a small amount of data
> >> (about 22kb) every 10 seconds 24/7 have caused or be responsible for the
> >> profile remaining low?. Would it help to shut the router down overnight
> >> as I understand that is when sync tests take place.

> >
> > What provider ? LLU or not ?

>
>
> Sorry for lack of info - no LLU - Plusnet, who responded quickly and say it
> should go up in a few days or if it is stuck then get back to them. The
> question I was interested in was if the data upload could be having an
> affect as the problem appeared round about the same time I tried uploading
> every 10 seconds.


Not remotely likely AFAIK.


> . If it is I could knock it down to daytime only or
> increase the periods to 2 minutes. The data currently is 20kb every 20 secs
> and 2 other lots of data every 120 secs all to different address's.


That's what it's supposed to be able to do. Hah, it's not P2P traffic is it ?

Graham

 
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      06-18-2008, 10:59 AM


"Gizmo." wrote:

> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
> > My profile was reduced from 7000 to 4000 on the 11th June. For the last 6
> > months I have always got between 6400 &7200 on tests. Now get between 3800
> > & just managed 4200 this morning. Could uploading a small amount of data
> > (about 22kb) every 10 seconds 24/7 have caused or be responsible for the
> > profile remaining low?. Would it help to shut the router down overnight as
> > I understand that is when sync tests take place.

>
> My connection has done the same ... at about the same date.
> Went from the usual 6.5Mb to 4Mb.
> I've sent Demon a couple of emails, but their only response is for me to
> call their inbred cretin in "technical support".


New ISP time ! Demon went to hell ages back.

Graham


 
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      06-18-2008, 11:53 AM

"Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Gizmo." wrote:
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>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>>
>> > My profile was reduced from 7000 to 4000 on the 11th June. For the last
>> > 6
>> > months I have always got between 6400 &7200 on tests. Now get between
>> > 3800
>> > & just managed 4200 this morning. Could uploading a small amount of
>> > data
>> > (about 22kb) every 10 seconds 24/7 have caused or be responsible for
>> > the
>> > profile remaining low?. Would it help to shut the router down overnight
>> > as
>> > I understand that is when sync tests take place.

>>
>> My connection has done the same ... at about the same date.
>> Went from the usual 6.5Mb to 4Mb.
>> I've sent Demon a couple of emails, but their only response is for me to
>> call their inbred cretin in "technical support".

>
> New ISP time ! Demon went to hell ages back.


Agreed. It's one of those jobs I "keep meaning to do" /

Demon went down the shitter when they moved tech support from Southend to
India.


 
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      06-18-2008, 12:03 PM

"Gizmo." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "Gizmo." wrote:
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>>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>>>
>>> > My profile was reduced from 7000 to 4000 on the 11th June. For the
>>> > last 6
>>> > months I have always got between 6400 &7200 on tests. Now get between
>>> > 3800
>>> > & just managed 4200 this morning. Could uploading a small amount of
>>> > data
>>> > (about 22kb) every 10 seconds 24/7 have caused or be responsible for
>>> > the
>>> > profile remaining low?. Would it help to shut the router down
>>> > overnight as
>>> > I understand that is when sync tests take place.
>>>
>>> My connection has done the same ... at about the same date.
>>> Went from the usual 6.5Mb to 4Mb.
>>> I've sent Demon a couple of emails, but their only response is for me to
>>> call their inbred cretin in "technical support".

>>
>> New ISP time ! Demon went to hell ages back.

>
> Agreed. It's one of those jobs I "keep meaning to do" /
>
> Demon went down the shitter when they moved tech support from Southend to
> India.
>

Even though I have the problem just now I cannot fault Plusnet for their
tech support - I left NTL/Virgin after being with them 8 years due to
support with extremely low speeds (quite often a low as a few hundred kbps)
and have had extremely quick responses to any queeries. They even got me
migrated in about 4 days just coming up to Christams eve when I was having
trouble migrating to the Post office broadband who had a software problem
with their ordering system and were going to take at least 7 weeks with no
promises even then. I have only had a couple of dropped connections in the 6
months and no drop in speed until now so as long as the support stays in the
UK then I will be staying with Plusnet.

Mick


 
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