problems with WPA | Linksys 802..11b wireless

Greetings -

I've been happily using my LinkSys 802.11b wireless router (BEFW11S4),
with my laptop (running WinXP SP1), which has a WPC11 v4 wireless card
- but, using WEP encryption.

Fora bunch of reasons (most having to do with a desire to increase my
system security), I decided to try 'upgrading' to WPA (using PSK).
However, I've had no luck at all - if I set up the router for DHCP, my
laptop doesn't pick up an IP number. If I try a fixed IP address, I
can connect to the router, but I can't get out to the internet.

I've done all the usual things (upgrade drivers, confirm WPA patch for
WinXP installed, etc), but no luck.

What I find really puzzling is that WEP works perfectly. I've followed
the WPA instructions step for step, based on a lot of articles I've
read, and yet I'm still having no luck with it.

I'm guessing this is a fairly common problem, and am hoping there are
some common fixes out there.

Suggestions?

On 3 Jun 2004 18:19:51 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) (Johnny Canuck)
wrote:

>Greetings -
>
>I've been happily using my LinkSys 802.11b wireless router (BEFW11S4),
>with my laptop (running WinXP SP1), which has a WPC11 v4 wireless card
>- but, using WEP encryption.
>
>Fora bunch of reasons (most having to do with a desire to increase my
>system security), I decided to try 'upgrading' to WPA (using PSK).
>However, I've had no luck at all - if I set up the router for DHCP, my
>laptop doesn't pick up an IP number. If I try a fixed IP address, I
>can connect to the router, but I can't get out to the internet.
>
>I've done all the usual things (upgrade drivers, confirm WPA patch for
>WinXP installed, etc), but no luck.
>
>What I find really puzzling is that WEP works perfectly. I've followed
>the WPA instructions step for step, based on a lot of articles I've
>read, and yet I'm still having no luck with it.
>
>I'm guessing this is a fairly common problem, and am hoping there are
>some common fixes out there.
>
>Suggestions?

I'm using the exact same hardware and had the same problem. Iposted
here before you did and have had no responces. Hope you have better
luck than I have.

Kawliga

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 3 Jun 2004 18:19:51 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) (Johnny Canuck)
> wrote:
>
> >Greetings -
> >
> >I've been happily using my LinkSys 802.11b wireless router (BEFW11S4),
> >with my laptop (running WinXP SP1), which has a WPC11 v4 wireless card
> >- but, using WEP encryption.
> >
> >Fora bunch of reasons (most having to do with a desire to increase my
> >system security), I decided to try 'upgrading' to WPA (using PSK).
> >However, I've had no luck at all - if I set up the router for DHCP, my
> >laptop doesn't pick up an IP number. If I try a fixed IP address, I
> >can connect to the router, but I can't get out to the internet.
> >
> >I've done all the usual things (upgrade drivers, confirm WPA patch for
> >WinXP installed, etc), but no luck.
> >
> >What I find really puzzling is that WEP works perfectly. I've followed
> >the WPA instructions step for step, based on a lot of articles I've
> >read, and yet I'm still having no luck with it.
> >
> >I'm guessing this is a fairly common problem, and am hoping there are
> >some common fixes out there.
> >
> >Suggestions?
>
> I'm using the exact same hardware and had the same problem. Iposted
> here before you did and have had no responces. Hope you have better
> luck than I have.
>
> Kawliga

You may want to try switching network protocols over to NWlink IPX/SPX
instead of NetBEUI and see if that buys you anything.

It's a shot.

Duane

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:54:23 GMT, Duane Arnold spoketh

>
>You may want to try switching network protocols over to NWlink IPX/SPX
>instead of NetBEUI and see if that buys you anything.
>
>It's a shot.
>
>Duane
>

Since neither has anything to do with obtaining an IP address or getting
to the internet, I can't possibly see any reason for this ...


Lars M. Hansen
http://www.hansenonline.net
(replace 'badnews' with 'news' in e-mail address)

"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<3gTvc.42301$eY2.28144@attbi_s02>...

>
> You may want to try switching network protocols over to NWlink IPX/SPX
> instead of NetBEUI and see if that buys you anything.
>
> It's a shot.
>
> Duane

On the laptop, presumably?

>
> I'm using the exact same hardware and had the same problem. Iposted
> here before you did and have had no responces. Hope you have better
> luck than I have.
>

If I get anything helpful via private email, I'll post it here.

Of course, LinkSys 'tech support' was singularly unhelpfull -
everything 'works' at their end.

Of course ;-)

Actually, since NetBEUI and IPX don't use IP addresses they have a great
deal to do with obtaining an IP address and getting to the Internet. You
can use NetBEUI or IPX for your network-layer protocol to achieve
file-sharing, but they will not help you with Internet access; you must have
IP for that.

Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.

"Lars M. Hansen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:54:23 GMT, Duane Arnold spoketh
>
> >
> >You may want to try switching network protocols over to NWlink IPX/SPX
> >instead of NetBEUI and see if that buys you anything.
> >
> >It's a shot.
> >
> >Duane
> >
>
> Since neither has anything to do with obtaining an IP address or getting
> to the internet, I can't possibly see any reason for this ...
>
>
> Lars M. Hansen
> http://www.hansenonline.net
> (replace 'badnews' with 'news' in e-mail address)

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:22:35 GMT, Ron Bandes spoketh

>Actually, since NetBEUI and IPX don't use IP addresses they have a great
>deal to do with obtaining an IP address and getting to the Internet. You
>can use NetBEUI or IPX for your network-layer protocol to achieve
>file-sharing, but they will not help you with Internet access; you must have
>IP for that.
>
>Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.
>

I can see that NetBEUI and IPX will allow you to communicate on your LAN
without the need for an IP address, but none of these protocols are
involved in the process of obtaining an IP address. That is done with
broadcasts, which is just a simple ethernet frame.

Lars M. Hansen
http://www.hansenonline.net
(replace 'badnews' with 'news' in e-mail address)

You are certainly correct that NetBEUI and IPX are not involved with
obtaining an IP address. But obtaining one isn't an Ethernet function. An
Ethernet frame addressed to the broadcast MAC address (ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff)
carries an IP packet addressed to the limited broadcast address
(255.255.255.255), which carries a UDP segment addressed to the BOOTP port,
which carries a DHCP message containing the request for IP address
assignment.

Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.

"Lars M. Hansen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:22:35 GMT, Ron Bandes spoketh
>
> >Actually, since NetBEUI and IPX don't use IP addresses they have a great
> >deal to do with obtaining an IP address and getting to the Internet. You
> >can use NetBEUI or IPX for your network-layer protocol to achieve
> >file-sharing, but they will not help you with Internet access; you must
have
> >IP for that.
> >
> >Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.
> >
>
> I can see that NetBEUI and IPX will allow you to communicate on your LAN
> without the need for an IP address, but none of these protocols are
> involved in the process of obtaining an IP address. That is done with
> broadcasts, which is just a simple ethernet frame.
>
> Lars M. Hansen
> http://www.hansenonline.net
> (replace 'badnews' with 'news' in e-mail address)

Lars M. Hansen <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:54:23 GMT, Duane Arnold spoketh
>
>>
>>You may want to try switching network protocols over to NWlink IPX/SPX
>>instead of NetBEUI and see if that buys you anything.
>>
>>It's a shot.
>>
>>Duane
>>
>
> Since neither has anything to do with obtaining an IP address or
getting
> to the internet, I can't possibly see any reason for this ...
>

The operative words there are *buy you anything* and *it's a shot*.

Duane