Problems with streaming through my router

I have a problem with my router when it comes to a program I use for
video streaming, Sopcast. When I start to stream, it works for 20
minutes and then my internet connection is shut down by the router, and
the router needs to be restarted to function again. This happens only
when I use the Sopcast program. I have disabled the router firewall. I
have read some places that it is best to open some ports on the router,
but since it works in 20 minutes, I am not sure whether the ports is the
problem or if there are other sources to my problem. Any ideas? I am not
that good at opening ports either. "Port forwarding" and "port opening",
any difference? I use Windows Vista Home Premium, and my router is a
wired Belkin F5D5230y4 router.

I would be thankful for any help!

PS.

Petter Solbu wrote:
> I have a problem with my router when it comes to a program I use for
> video streaming, Sopcast. When I start to stream, it works for 20
> minutes and then my internet connection is shut down by the router, and
> the router needs to be restarted to function again. This happens only
> when I use the Sopcast program. I have disabled the router firewall. I
> have read some places that it is best to open some ports on the router,
> but since it works in 20 minutes, I am not sure whether the ports is the
> problem or if there are other sources to my problem. Any ideas? I am not
> that good at opening ports either. "Port forwarding" and "port opening",
> any difference? I use Windows Vista Home Premium, and my router is a
> wired Belkin F5D5230y4 router.
>
> I would be thankful for any help!
>
> PS.


Hi Petter,

I had a similar problem with a router, and after months of bafflement, I
realised it felt a little warm to the touch.. So I turned it upside
down so that the ventilation holes were exposed upwards, and this seemed
to solve my problem.

A colleague has had a similar experience with a 3com Enterprise level
managed switch, in the end we found a 45degree inclination against a
wall seemed to provide a medium it was happy to work in.

its a bit of a long shot, but try changing the placement/position of
yours and see if helps (especially with regards to the air vents).

Cya!

CaptCrazy skrev:

> Hi Petter,
>
> I had a similar problem with a router, and after months of bafflement, I
> realised it felt a little warm to the touch.. So I turned it upside
> down so that the ventilation holes were exposed upwards, and this seemed
> to solve my problem.
>
> A colleague has had a similar experience with a 3com Enterprise level
> managed switch, in the end we found a 45degree inclination against a
> wall seemed to provide a medium it was happy to work in.
>
> its a bit of a long shot, but try changing the placement/position of
> yours and see if helps (especially with regards to the air vents).
>
> Cya!

Thanks! I will try that. But did your problem only occur with (P2P)
streaming as well? Why doesn't the router handle P2P streaming? You
don't think it has anything to do with the ports? Since it works
properly in 20 minutes, that sounds a bit odd, I think.

PS.

Petter Solbu skrev:

>> Hi Petter,
>>
>> I had a similar problem with a router, and after months of bafflement,
>> I realised it felt a little warm to the touch.. So I turned it upside
>> down so that the ventilation holes were exposed upwards, and this
>> seemed to solve my problem.
>>
>> A colleague has had a similar experience with a 3com Enterprise level
>> managed switch, in the end we found a 45degree inclination against a
>> wall seemed to provide a medium it was happy to work in.
>>
>> its a bit of a long shot, but try changing the placement/position of
>> yours and see if helps (especially with regards to the air vents).
>>
>> Cya!
>
> Thanks! I will try that. But did your problem only occur with (P2P)
> streaming as well? Why doesn't the router handle P2P streaming? You
> don't think it has anything to do with the ports? Since it works
> properly in 20 minutes, that sounds a bit odd, I think.

By the way, I tried to stream the same channel with a different
software, but with the same reaction from the router after half an hour.
Strange..

PS.

Hi Peter,

In my case it seemed to be just the constant barage of traffic caused
the router's processor to work harder, and in working harder over a
short but sustained period of time, it got too warm and started behaving
weirdly.

I dont think its to do with the ports - no.

BUT, it could be your ISP noticing the traffic and sending creating a
block to what is presumably your dynamically assigned IP address at the
given time.

Then, because you have to reconnect, you get a new IP address, you start
up P2P traffic and the ISP notice it again and shut it down on your
connection.

Anyway, let me know how the repositioning of the router goes.

Cya

Petter Solbu wrote:
> Petter Solbu skrev:
>
>>> Hi Petter,
>>>
>>> I had a similar problem with a router, and after months of
>>> bafflement, I realised it felt a little warm to the touch.. So I
>>> turned it upside down so that the ventilation holes were exposed
>>> upwards, and this seemed to solve my problem.
>>>
>>> A colleague has had a similar experience with a 3com Enterprise level
>>> managed switch, in the end we found a 45degree inclination against a
>>> wall seemed to provide a medium it was happy to work in.
>>>
>>> its a bit of a long shot, but try changing the placement/position of
>>> yours and see if helps (especially with regards to the air vents).
>>>
>>> Cya!
>>
>> Thanks! I will try that. But did your problem only occur with (P2P)
>> streaming as well? Why doesn't the router handle P2P streaming? You
>> don't think it has anything to do with the ports? Since it works
>> properly in 20 minutes, that sounds a bit odd, I think.
>
> By the way, I tried to stream the same channel with a different
> software, but with the same reaction from the router after half an hour.
> Strange..
>
> PS.

CaptCrazy skrev:
> Hi Peter,
>
> In my case it seemed to be just the constant barage of traffic caused
> the router's processor to work harder, and in working harder over a
> short but sustained period of time, it got too warm and started behaving
> weirdly.
>
> I dont think its to do with the ports - no.
>
> BUT, it could be your ISP noticing the traffic and sending creating a
> block to what is presumably your dynamically assigned IP address at the
> given time.
>
> Then, because you have to reconnect, you get a new IP address, you start
> up P2P traffic and the ISP notice it again and shut it down on your
> connection.
>
> Anyway, let me know how the repositioning of the router goes.
>
> Cya

Hi again! Well, my router is not that hot actually. And it doesn't seem
to help to change its position. This only happens when I use P2P
streaming software. I am going to try with a different PC now and see if
that changes things. I use Vista, so maybe that could be an issue here.
I have dynamic IP addressing, that's correct. But could it have anything
to do with my router configurations besides the port thing? I am not an
expert on router or network issues, not at all!:-) But how could my ISP
block my traffic automatically? I have used torrent software before, and
that is no problem. Hm, strange stuff..

PS.

Petter Solbu wrote:
> CaptCrazy skrev:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> In my case it seemed to be just the constant barage of traffic caused
>> the router's processor to work harder, and in working harder over a
>> short but sustained period of time, it got too warm and started
>> behaving weirdly.
>>
>> I dont think its to do with the ports - no.
>>
>> BUT, it could be your ISP noticing the traffic and sending creating a
>> block to what is presumably your dynamically assigned IP address at
>> the given time.
>>
>> Then, because you have to reconnect, you get a new IP address, you
>> start up P2P traffic and the ISP notice it again and shut it down on
>> your connection.
>>
>> Anyway, let me know how the repositioning of the router goes.
>>
>> Cya
>
> Hi again! Well, my router is not that hot actually. And it doesn't seem
> to help to change its position. This only happens when I use P2P
> streaming software. I am going to try with a different PC now and see if
> that changes things. I use Vista, so maybe that could be an issue here.
> I have dynamic IP addressing, that's correct. But could it have anything
> to do with my router configurations besides the port thing? I am not an

At the moment it would seem highly unlikely that your router is the
problem. If your router configuration was going to cause a problem, then
you shouldnt be able to achieve any P2P activity at all.

> expert on router or network issues, not at all!:-) But how could my ISP
> block my traffic automatically? I have used torrent software before, and
> that is no problem. Hm, strange stuff..

ISP's have hardware which constantly monitors internet traffic coming in
and out of their network. They can block whatever they want to block, at
any time. MOST of the time, ISP's are happy to let you go about doing
whatever you want to do. But some ISP's have been known to clamp down on
certain internet traffic.

Who is your ISP? and have you used BitTorrent P2P software on your
current ISP successfully ever?

Cya!

CaptCrazy skrev:

> Who is your ISP? and have you used BitTorrent P2P software on your
> current ISP successfully ever?

Hi again. I am Norwegian, my ISP is Canal Digital (www.canaldigital.no).
I guess that is what you mean by my ISP? The company which gives me
internet connection? And yes, I have used Utorrent several times with
this internet connection with no problems at all. My router hasn't
responded to that. The thing is that only my router needs to get
restarted here! So I can't understand that my ISP has anything to do
with this. If they had, wouldn't it make more sense that I needed to
restart the modem?

PS.

Petter Solbu wrote:
> CaptCrazy skrev:
>
>> Who is your ISP? and have you used BitTorrent P2P software on your
>> current ISP successfully ever?
>
> Hi again. I am Norwegian, my ISP is Canal Digital (www.canaldigital.no).
> I guess that is what you mean by my ISP? The company which gives me
> internet connection? And yes, I have used Utorrent several times with

Ok

> this internet connection with no problems at all. My router hasn't
> responded to that. The thing is that only my router needs to get
> restarted here! So I can't understand that my ISP has anything to do
> with this. If they had, wouldn't it make more sense that I needed to
> restart the modem?

Are your modem and router different devices then? Your router doesnt
have a built in modem?

If your modem IS a seperate device altogether, why not try connecting
one of your computers straight onto the modem (download the drivers
first of course).

Then you'd be able to see if the router really is the problem or not.

A quick scan of your ISP (Canal Digital) in Google didnt turn up
anything which might suggest they are known for blocking P2P traffic.

Your right - this is weird.

First of all I will say that I now have tried to P2P stream from a
different machine with XP Home Edition. Same response from the router
after half an hour or so. So my OS or machine for that matter has
nothing to do with this apparently.

CaptCrazy skrev:

> Are your modem and router different devices then? Your router doesnt
> have a built in modem?

They are different devices, yes. I don't think my router has any modem
inside. It is a quite regular router, not very expensive. Belkin 4-port
wired router, F5D5230y4 version.

> If your modem IS a seperate device altogether, why not try connecting
> one of your computers straight onto the modem (download the drivers
> first of course).

Due to the other machine(s) connected, that is not often possible, I am
afraid. But I am pretty sure that my modem has nothing to do with this.
I mean, how come I don't need to restart my modem? This has to do with
the router, I can't think of anything else..

> A quick scan of your ISP (Canal Digital) in Google didnt turn up
> anything which might suggest they are known for blocking P2P traffic.

Well, it is a Norwegian company. You probably won't find much about that
company on Google :-) But if my ISP is blocking this, it is going
automatical, I guess? Noone sits there and supervise me all the time??

> Your right - this is weird.

Yes, it sure is!

Thanks for help so far, by the way.

PS.