Problems with additional RAM aand NIC

X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was 2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some time so I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run with no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no data sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine II fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from the ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows. Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but did not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional RAM (no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in between the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan

"Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it
>hasn't
> appeared!
>
> I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was 2x256k
> and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
> spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some time so I
> added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run with no
> problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the Award
> BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that there
> was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no data
> sent
> to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine II
> fast
> Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from the
> ASUS
> and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows. Even
> turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but did
> not
> resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional RAM (no
> difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and hey
> presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in between
> the
> additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
> Alan
>
>

I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory ...but then
again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...

reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC (and any
other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in there...(control
panel>device manager

reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again ..

post back :>

"Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it
> >hasn't
> > appeared!
> >
> > I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was
2x256k
> > and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
> > spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some time so
I
> > added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run with
no
> > problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the Award
> > BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that
there
> > was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no data
> > sent
> > to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine II
> > fast
> > Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from the
> > ASUS
> > and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows. Even
> > turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but did
> > not
> > resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional RAM
(no
> > difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and hey
> > presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in between
> > the
> > additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
> > Alan
> >
> >
>
> I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory ...but
then
> again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...
>
> reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC (and any
> other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
there...(control
> panel>device manager
>
> reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again ..
>
> post back :>
>
>I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I will check
again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS and spent
time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do. One of
ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem depending on the
speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is set to
auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is running at
in terms of FSB.
The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max 3 GB
unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200 maximum
to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700 so am
limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of a bank
is?
In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB CPU, system
memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody explain
the significance.
Thanks
Alan
>

"Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it
>> >hasn't
>> > appeared!
>> >
>> > I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was
> 2x256k
>> > and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
>> > spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some time
>> > so
> I
>> > added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run with
> no
>> > problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the
>> > Award
>> > BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that
> there
>> > was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no data
>> > sent
>> > to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine II
>> > fast
>> > Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from the
>> > ASUS
>> > and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows. Even
>> > turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but
>> > did
>> > not
>> > resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional RAM
> (no
>> > difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and
>> > hey
>> > presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in between
>> > the
>> > additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
>> > Alan
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory ...but
> then
>> again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...
>>
>> reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC (and
>> any
>> other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
> there...(control
>> panel>device manager
>>
>> reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again ..
>>
>> post back :>
>>
>>I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I will
>>check
> again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS and
> spent
> time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do. One of
> ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem depending on
> the
> speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is set to
> auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is running
> at
> in terms of FSB.
> The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max 3 GB
> unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200
> maximum
> to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700 so am
> limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of a bank
> is?
> In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB CPU,
> system
> memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody explain
> the significance.
> Thanks
> Alan
>>
>
>

a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds ok
....did you try just the 512mb ?)

FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the motherboard/memory or
they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)

"Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it
> >> >hasn't
> >> > appeared!
> >> >
> >> > I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was
> > 2x256k
> >> > and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
> >> > spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some time
> >> > so
> > I
> >> > added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run
with
> > no
> >> > problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the
> >> > Award
> >> > BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that
> > there
> >> > was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no
data
> >> > sent
> >> > to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine
II
> >> > fast
> >> > Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from
the
> >> > ASUS
> >> > and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows.
Even
> >> > turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but
> >> > did
> >> > not
> >> > resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional
RAM
> > (no
> >> > difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and
> >> > hey
> >> > presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in
between
> >> > the
> >> > additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
> >> > Alan
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory ...but
> > then
> >> again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...
> >>
> >> reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC (and
> >> any
> >> other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
> > there...(control
> >> panel>device manager
> >>
> >> reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again ..
> >>
> >> post back :>
> >>
> >>I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I will
> >>check
> > again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS and
> > spent
> > time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do. One
of
> > ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem depending on
> > the
> > speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is set
to
> > auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is
running
> > at
> > in terms of FSB.
> > The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max 3
GB
> > unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200
> > maximum
> > to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700 so am
> > limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of a
bank
> > is?
> > In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB CPU,
> > system
> > memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody
explain
> > the significance.
> > Thanks
> > Alan
> >>
> >
> >
>
> a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds ok
> ...did you try just the 512mb ?)
>
> FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the motherboard/memory
or
> they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)
>
I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at. When I
check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings are auto.
The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
Alan

"Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:eg$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >
>> > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it
>> >> >hasn't
>> >> > appeared!
>> >> >
>> >> > I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was
>> > 2x256k
>> >> > and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
>> >> > spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some
>> >> > time
>> >> > so
>> > I
>> >> > added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run
> with
>> > no
>> >> > problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the
>> >> > Award
>> >> > BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that
>> > there
>> >> > was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no
> data
>> >> > sent
>> >> > to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine
> II
>> >> > fast
>> >> > Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from
> the
>> >> > ASUS
>> >> > and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows.
> Even
>> >> > turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but
>> >> > did
>> >> > not
>> >> > resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional
> RAM
>> > (no
>> >> > difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and
>> >> > hey
>> >> > presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in
> between
>> >> > the
>> >> > additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
>> >> > Alan
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory
>> >> ...but
>> > then
>> >> again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...
>> >>
>> >> reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC (and
>> >> any
>> >> other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
>> > there...(control
>> >> panel>device manager
>> >>
>> >> reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again ..
>> >>
>> >> post back :>
>> >>
>> >>I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I will
>> >>check
>> > again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS and
>> > spent
>> > time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do. One
> of
>> > ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem depending
>> > on
>> > the
>> > speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is set
> to
>> > auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is
> running
>> > at
>> > in terms of FSB.
>> > The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max 3
> GB
>> > unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200
>> > maximum
>> > to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700 so
>> > am
>> > limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of a
> bank
>> > is?
>> > In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB CPU,
>> > system
>> > memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody
> explain
>> > the significance.
>> > Thanks
>> > Alan
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds ok
>> ...did you try just the 512mb ?)
>>
>> FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the motherboard/memory
> or
>> they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)
>>
> I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at. When I
> check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings are
> auto.
> The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
> Alan
>
>

if hit "pause" quick enough at boot time , you should see the CPU speed and
stepping.(and IIRC you can see it in sysinfo under accessories/tools ..going
from memory here :>)

most motherboards will detect and automatically adjust bus speed to match
the CPU and Memory

"Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:eg$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >
> >> > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> >X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and
it
> >> >> >hasn't
> >> >> > appeared!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing
was
> >> > 2x256k
> >> >> > and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
> >> >> > spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some
> >> >> > time
> >> >> > so
> >> > I
> >> >> > added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run
> > with
> >> > no
> >> >> > problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the
> >> >> > Award
> >> >> > BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised
that
> >> > there
> >> >> > was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no
> > data
> >> >> > sent
> >> >> > to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA
Rhine
> > II
> >> >> > fast
> >> >> > Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from
> > the
> >> >> > ASUS
> >> >> > and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows.
> > Even
> >> >> > turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows
but
> >> >> > did
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional
> > RAM
> >> > (no
> >> >> > difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry
and
> >> >> > hey
> >> >> > presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in
> > between
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
> >> >> > Alan
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory
> >> >> ...but
> >> > then
> >> >> again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...
> >> >>
> >> >> reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC
(and
> >> >> any
> >> >> other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
> >> > there...(control
> >> >> panel>device manager
> >> >>
> >> >> reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again
...
> >> >>
> >> >> post back :>
> >> >>
> >> >>I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I will
> >> >>check
> >> > again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS and
> >> > spent
> >> > time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do.
One
> > of
> >> > ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem depending
> >> > on
> >> > the
> >> > speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is
set
> > to
> >> > auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is
> > running
> >> > at
> >> > in terms of FSB.
> >> > The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max
3
> > GB
> >> > unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200
> >> > maximum
> >> > to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700 so
> >> > am
> >> > limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of a
> > bank
> >> > is?
> >> > In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB CPU,
> >> > system
> >> > memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody
> > explain
> >> > the significance.
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Alan
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds ok
> >> ...did you try just the 512mb ?)
> >>
> >> FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the
motherboard/memory
> > or
> >> they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)
> >>
> > I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at. When I
> > check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings are
> > auto.
> > The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
> > Alan
> >
> >
>
> if hit "pause" quick enough at boot time , you should see the CPU speed
and
> stepping.(and IIRC you can see it in sysinfo under accessories/tools
...going
> from memory here :>)
>
> most motherboards will detect and automatically adjust bus speed to match
> the CPU and Memory
>
Thanks for your input. I don't appear to have a pause option during POST but
do confirm the correct speed of 1800 is being given. At present System Info
giving an IRQ of 3 for the Rhine LAN. I have been spending time checking
over everything - just to make sure. I found this little gem buried deep
down in the ASUS web page for the MOBO and it wasn't there a little while
ago when I last checked. Anyway what it says is concerning the memory banks
and according to ASUS, one single sided DIMM means one bank, one double
sided DIMM means two banks, two single sided DIMMs means two banks etc.
Banks doesn't mean slots in their logic! So in my case there are three slots
on the MOBO and using PC2700 I can use 4 banks, i.e. 2 doubles or as I have
one double and two singles. Why they don't put this in the user's manual is
beyond me.
I have had all the RAM out and checked it against the Samsung DDR SDRAM
Module Code Information and as I thought, it is all the same type. When I
was running the 2 x 256 modules I also logged onto www.crucial.com/uk to
check what they said and use their little routine to analyse the memory
options for my MOBO. Very useful and confirmed what I had done was correct
with the same option for upgrading to 1 Meg. Next step was to put the 512
into slot one and nothing else and see how it runs. At present all OK and no
failing devices! I shall then upgrade the system.ini again and try one 256
at a time and see what happens.
Alan

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> "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >
> > > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:eg$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> >
> > >> > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> >> >X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off
and
> it
> > >> >> >hasn't
> > >> >> > appeared!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing
> was
> > >> > 2x256k
> > >> >> > and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
> > >> >> > spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some
> > >> >> > time
> > >> >> > so
> > >> > I
> > >> >> > added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that
run
> > > with
> > >> > no
> > >> >> > problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which
the
> > >> >> > Award
> > >> >> > BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised
> that
> > >> > there
> > >> >> > was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but
no
> > > data
> > >> >> > sent
> > >> >> > to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA
> Rhine
> > > II
> > >> >> > fast
> > >> >> > Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software
from
> > > the
> > >> >> > ASUS
> > >> >> > and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by
Windows.
> > > Even
> > >> >> > turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows
> but
> > >> >> > did
> > >> >> > not
> > >> >> > resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the
additional
> > > RAM
> > >> > (no
> > >> >> > difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry
> and
> > >> >> > hey
> > >> >> > presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in
> > > between
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
> > >> >> > Alan
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory
> > >> >> ...but
> > >> > then
> > >> >> again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC
> (and
> > >> >> any
> > >> >> other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
> > >> > there...(control
> > >> >> panel>device manager
> > >> >>
> > >> >> reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again
> ..
> > >> >>
> > >> >> post back :>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I
will
> > >> >>check
> > >> > again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS
and
> > >> > spent
> > >> > time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do.
> One
> > > of
> > >> > ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem
depending
> > >> > on
> > >> > the
> > >> > speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is
> set
> > > to
> > >> > auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is
> > > running
> > >> > at
> > >> > in terms of FSB.
> > >> > The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets,
Max
> 3
> > > GB
> > >> > unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200
> > >> > maximum
> > >> > to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700
so
> > >> > am
> > >> > limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of
a
> > > bank
> > >> > is?
> > >> > In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB
CPU,
> > >> > system
> > >> > memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody
> > > explain
> > >> > the significance.
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> > Alan
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds
ok
> > >> ...did you try just the 512mb ?)
> > >>
> > >> FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the
> motherboard/memory
> > > or
> > >> they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)
> > >>
> > > I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at. When
I
> > > check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings are
> > > auto.
> > > The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> >
> > if hit "pause" quick enough at boot time , you should see the CPU speed
> and
> > stepping.(and IIRC you can see it in sysinfo under accessories/tools
> ..going
> > from memory here :>)
> >
> > most motherboards will detect and automatically adjust bus speed to
match
> > the CPU and Memory
> >
> Thanks for your input. I don't appear to have a pause option during POST
but
> do confirm the correct speed of 1800 is being given. At present System
Info
> giving an IRQ of 3 for the Rhine LAN. I have been spending time checking
> over everything - just to make sure. I found this little gem buried deep
> down in the ASUS web page for the MOBO and it wasn't there a little while
> ago when I last checked. Anyway what it says is concerning the memory
banks
> and according to ASUS, one single sided DIMM means one bank, one double
> sided DIMM means two banks, two single sided DIMMs means two banks etc.
> Banks doesn't mean slots in their logic! So in my case there are three
slots
> on the MOBO and using PC2700 I can use 4 banks, i.e. 2 doubles or as I
have
> one double and two singles. Why they don't put this in the user's manual
is
> beyond me.
> I have had all the RAM out and checked it against the Samsung DDR SDRAM
> Module Code Information and as I thought, it is all the same type. When I
> was running the 2 x 256 modules I also logged onto www.crucial.com/uk to
> check what they said and use their little routine to analyse the memory
> options for my MOBO. Very useful and confirmed what I had done was correct
> with the same option for upgrading to 1 Meg. Next step was to put the 512
> into slot one and nothing else and see how it runs. At present all OK and
no
> failing devices! I shall then upgrade the system.ini again and try one 256
> at a time and see what happens.
> Alan
> Now running 768 with no apparent problems.
Alan
>

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>>
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>> >
>> >
>> > "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >
>> > > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > > news:eg$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >> >> >X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off
> and
>> it
>> > >> >> >hasn't
>> > >> >> > appeared!
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing
>> was
>> > >> > 2x256k
>> > >> >> > and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
>> > >> >> > spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for
>> > >> >> > some
>> > >> >> > time
>> > >> >> > so
>> > >> > I
>> > >> >> > added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that
> run
>> > > with
>> > >> > no
>> > >> >> > problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which
> the
>> > >> >> > Award
>> > >> >> > BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised
>> that
>> > >> > there
>> > >> >> > was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but
> no
>> > > data
>> > >> >> > sent
>> > >> >> > to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA
>> Rhine
>> > > II
>> > >> >> > fast
>> > >> >> > Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software
> from
>> > > the
>> > >> >> > ASUS
>> > >> >> > and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by
> Windows.
>> > > Even
>> > >> >> > turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by
>> > >> >> > Windows
>> but
>> > >> >> > did
>> > >> >> > not
>> > >> >> > resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the
> additional
>> > > RAM
>> > >> > (no
>> > >> >> > difference) and then restored a previous version of the
>> > >> >> > Registry
>> and
>> > >> >> > hey
>> > >> >> > presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in
>> > > between
>> > >> >> > the
>> > >> >> > additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
>> > >> >> > Alan
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory
>> > >> >> ...but
>> > >> > then
>> > >> >> again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC
>> (and
>> > >> >> any
>> > >> >> other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
>> > >> > there...(control
>> > >> >> panel>device manager
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers
>> > >> >> again
>> ..
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> post back :>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I
> will
>> > >> >>check
>> > >> > again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS
> and
>> > >> > spent
>> > >> > time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot
>> > >> > do.
>> One
>> > > of
>> > >> > ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem
> depending
>> > >> > on
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS
>> > >> > is
>> set
>> > > to
>> > >> > auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is
>> > > running
>> > >> > at
>> > >> > in terms of FSB.
>> > >> > The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets,
> Max
>> 3
>> > > GB
>> > >> > unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:-
>> > >> > PC3200
>> > >> > maximum
>> > >> > to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700
> so
>> > >> > am
>> > >> > limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of
> a
>> > > bank
>> > >> > is?
>> > >> > In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB
> CPU,
>> > >> > system
>> > >> > memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody
>> > > explain
>> > >> > the significance.
>> > >> > Thanks
>> > >> > Alan
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds
> ok
>> > >> ...did you try just the 512mb ?)
>> > >>
>> > >> FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the
>> motherboard/memory
>> > > or
>> > >> they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)
>> > >>
>> > > I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at. When
> I
>> > > check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings
>> > > are
>> > > auto.
>> > > The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
>> > > Alan
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > if hit "pause" quick enough at boot time , you should see the CPU speed
>> and
>> > stepping.(and IIRC you can see it in sysinfo under accessories/tools
>> ..going
>> > from memory here :>)
>> >
>> > most motherboards will detect and automatically adjust bus speed to
> match
>> > the CPU and Memory
>> >
>> Thanks for your input. I don't appear to have a pause option during POST
> but
>> do confirm the correct speed of 1800 is being given. At present System
> Info
>> giving an IRQ of 3 for the Rhine LAN. I have been spending time checking
>> over everything - just to make sure. I found this little gem buried deep
>> down in the ASUS web page for the MOBO and it wasn't there a little while
>> ago when I last checked. Anyway what it says is concerning the memory
> banks
>> and according to ASUS, one single sided DIMM means one bank, one double
>> sided DIMM means two banks, two single sided DIMMs means two banks etc.
>> Banks doesn't mean slots in their logic! So in my case there are three
> slots
>> on the MOBO and using PC2700 I can use 4 banks, i.e. 2 doubles or as I
> have
>> one double and two singles. Why they don't put this in the user's manual
> is
>> beyond me.
>> I have had all the RAM out and checked it against the Samsung DDR SDRAM
>> Module Code Information and as I thought, it is all the same type. When I
>> was running the 2 x 256 modules I also logged onto www.crucial.com/uk to
>> check what they said and use their little routine to analyse the memory
>> options for my MOBO. Very useful and confirmed what I had done was
>> correct
>> with the same option for upgrading to 1 Meg. Next step was to put the 512
>> into slot one and nothing else and see how it runs. At present all OK and
> no
>> failing devices! I shall then upgrade the system.ini again and try one
>> 256
>> at a time and see what happens.
>> Alan
>> Now running 768 with no apparent problems.
> Alan
>>
>
>

good to hear :>

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>
>
> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>
> >> "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > >
> >> > > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > > news:eg$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > "Haggis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> "Alan" <alanguard2004-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > >> >> >X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off
> > and
> >> it
> >> > >> >> >hasn't
> >> > >> >> > appeared!
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The
existing
> >> was
> >> > >> > 2x256k
> >> > >> >> > and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
> >> > >> >> > spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for
> >> > >> >> > some
> >> > >> >> > time
> >> > >> >> > so
> >> > >> > I
> >> > >> >> > added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let
that
> > run
> >> > > with
> >> > >> > no
> >> > >> >> > problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM
which
> > the
> >> > >> >> > Award
> >> > >> >> > BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then
realised
> >> that
> >> > >> > there
> >> > >> >> > was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up
but
> > no
> >> > > data
> >> > >> >> > sent
> >> > >> >> > to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA
> >> Rhine
> >> > > II
> >> > >> >> > fast
> >> > >> >> > Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software
> > from
> >> > > the
> >> > >> >> > ASUS
> >> > >> >> > and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by
> > Windows.
> >> > > Even
> >> > >> >> > turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by
> >> > >> >> > Windows
> >> but
> >> > >> >> > did
> >> > >> >> > not
> >> > >> >> > resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the
> > additional
> >> > > RAM
> >> > >> > (no
> >> > >> >> > difference) and then restored a previous version of the
> >> > >> >> > Registry
> >> and
> >> > >> >> > hey
> >> > >> >> > presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie
in
> >> > > between
> >> > >> >> > the
> >> > >> >> > additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
> >> > >> >> > Alan
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding
memory
> >> > >> >> ...but
> >> > >> > then
> >> > >> >> again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your
NIC
> >> (and
> >> > >> >> any
> >> > >> >> other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
> >> > >> > there...(control
> >> > >> >> panel>device manager
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers
> >> > >> >> again
> >> ..
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> post back :>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I
> > will
> >> > >> >>check
> >> > >> > again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing
ASUS
> > and
> >> > >> > spent
> >> > >> > time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot
> >> > >> > do.
> >> One
> >> > > of
> >> > >> > ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem
> > depending
> >> > >> > on
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS
> >> > >> > is
> >> set
> >> > > to
> >> > >> > auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it
is
> >> > > running
> >> > >> > at
> >> > >> > in terms of FSB.
> >> > >> > The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets,
> > Max
> >> 3
> >> > > GB
> >> > >> > unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:-
> >> > >> > PC3200
> >> > >> > maximum
> >> > >> > to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using
PC2700
> > so
> >> > >> > am
> >> > >> > limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition
of
> > a
> >> > > bank
> >> > >> > is?
> >> > >> > In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB
> > CPU,
> >> > >> > system
> >> > >> > memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can
anybody
> >> > > explain
> >> > >> > the significance.
> >> > >> > Thanks
> >> > >> > Alan
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using
sounds
> > ok
> >> > >> ...did you try just the 512mb ?)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the
> >> motherboard/memory
> >> > > or
> >> > >> they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)
> >> > >>
> >> > > I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at.
When
> > I
> >> > > check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings
> >> > > are
> >> > > auto.
> >> > > The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
> >> > > Alan
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > if hit "pause" quick enough at boot time , you should see the CPU
speed
> >> and
> >> > stepping.(and IIRC you can see it in sysinfo under accessories/tools
> >> ..going
> >> > from memory here :>)
> >> >
> >> > most motherboards will detect and automatically adjust bus speed to
> > match
> >> > the CPU and Memory
> >> >
> >> Thanks for your input. I don't appear to have a pause option during
POST
> > but
> >> do confirm the correct speed of 1800 is being given. At present System
> > Info
> >> giving an IRQ of 3 for the Rhine LAN. I have been spending time
checking
> >> over everything - just to make sure. I found this little gem buried
deep
> >> down in the ASUS web page for the MOBO and it wasn't there a little
while
> >> ago when I last checked. Anyway what it says is concerning the memory
> > banks
> >> and according to ASUS, one single sided DIMM means one bank, one double
> >> sided DIMM means two banks, two single sided DIMMs means two banks etc.
> >> Banks doesn't mean slots in their logic! So in my case there are three
> > slots
> >> on the MOBO and using PC2700 I can use 4 banks, i.e. 2 doubles or as I
> > have
> >> one double and two singles. Why they don't put this in the user's
manual
> > is
> >> beyond me.
> >> I have had all the RAM out and checked it against the Samsung DDR SDRAM
> >> Module Code Information and as I thought, it is all the same type. When
I
> >> was running the 2 x 256 modules I also logged onto www.crucial.com/uk
to
> >> check what they said and use their little routine to analyse the memory
> >> options for my MOBO. Very useful and confirmed what I had done was
> >> correct
> >> with the same option for upgrading to 1 Meg. Next step was to put the
512
> >> into slot one and nothing else and see how it runs. At present all OK
and
> > no
> >> failing devices! I shall then upgrade the system.ini again and try one
> >> 256
> >> at a time and see what happens.
> >> Alan
> >> Now running 768 with no apparent problems.
> > Alan
> >>
> >
> >
>
> good to hear :>
>
Just tried the last of the RAM (256) to bring it up to 1Meg and again the
Device Manager reported problems with the Rhine adapter under NDIS and of
course no access to the internet via the onboard LAN interface. It said it
was either faulty or bad/incorrect drivers. It Control Panel/Network the
Rhine adapter properties didn't change. This time I didn't try reloading any
drivers but just powered down and removed the 256 RAM stick and powered up
again and all OK with 768. FYI whether 768 or 1Meg the POST says the RAM is
OK. Any clues?
Alan