Problem with sockets

Hello,

I'd like to know if there is a way to know if one of the sides of a TCP
connection is down without sending any message, using some API (in UNIX)

Thanks

Andrea

On 2005-02-02, Andrea Sini <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to know if there is a way to know if one of the sides of a TCP
> connection is down without sending any message, using some API (in UNIX)
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrea

Simply evaluating the value returned by
both sides' connect() call?


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> On 2005-02-02, Andrea Sini <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'd like to know if there is a way to know if one of the sides of a TCP
> > connection is down without sending any message, using some API (in UNIX)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andrea
>
> Simply evaluating the value returned by
> both sides' connect() call?
>
>
> --
> - Pat Tongco
> 2.6.10-ck5.012105

If the connection is closed normally by the remote PC, you can receive a
message with NULL data.
If the connection is down for some link layer reason, (the network is down,
etc.), the OS can not detect it, I think
you can send keepalive message to detect it.
The connect() function can be used to setup a TCP/UDP connection, if you
want use this funtion to test a connected socket,
it is not so good. BTW, you can only get the return value asynchronous.

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Andrea Sini wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'd like to know if there is a way to know if one of the sides of a TCP
> connection is down without sending any message, using some API (in UNIX)

No, but if one end closed gracefully then the other end will get a '0' return
from recv() to signal end of stream.

> Thanks
>
> Andrea

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> I'd like to know if there is a way to know if one of the sides of a TCP
> connection is down without sending any message, using some API (in UNIX)

A moment's reflection should tell you that this is impossible in
principle. If the host disappears, how could you tell except by sending it a
message and noticing either its failure to respond or a resulting error?

DS

Hi Andrea.

> I'd like to know if there is a way to know if one of the sides of a
TCP
> connection is down without sending any message, using some API (in
UNIX)

It depends what you mean by "without sending any message". If you mean
from the application (so that you don't have to have a new message that
the remote will understand), then turn on TCP keepalives. A message is
sent, but it is sent by the stack and hidden from the apps.

For more details, search for "+so_keepalive +schefter" in google
groups.

Regards,
Steve

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(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Hi Andrea.
>
>>I'd like to know if there is a way to know if one of the sides of a
> TCP
>>connection is down without sending any message, using some API (in
> UNIX)
>
> It depends what you mean by "without sending any message". If you mean
> from the application (so that you don't have to have a new message that
> the remote will understand), then turn on TCP keepalives. A message is
> sent, but it is sent by the stack and hidden from the apps.
>
> For more details, search for "+so_keepalive +schefter" in google
> groups.

However, note that TCP keepalives are depreciated, and by default they have a
time-out of 2 hours! Yes, you can change the time-out to something shorter, down
to seconds if you wish, but on most OSs this is a global setting, so it will
effect ALL TCP connections.


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