Problem Networking via TCP/IP

I am attempting to network 3 computers in my home, a Gateway desktop, a
Toshiba laptop and a Dell WebPC; all run Win 98SE. I am using a US Robotics
8054 802.11g Wireless Router. In addition to wireless capability the 8054
has a 4-port Ethernet switch. The Gateway desktop and the Toshiba laptop are
to be hard wired to the 8054's switch ports. The Dell WebPC will connect
wirelessly via a US Robotics 5420 802.11g Wireless USB Adapter. The 5420
must network via TCP/IP - it cannot use NetBEUI. In fact, if NetBEUI is
loaded on the computer the 5420 is attached to it will fail to boot.

Therefore, I need to get the other two computers hard wired to the 8054
switch networked via TCP/IP. I have been unable to do this. The two
computers can network if NetBEUI is installed but not over TCP/IP. They
cannot Ping each other although they can Ping themselves and the 8054. It is
also possible to access the Internet from each computer through a DSL modem
attached to the 8054. This would seem to indicate that the hardware is
working OK. Nevertheless, I have replaced the 8054 with a hub and the
Gateway's PCI card and the Toshiba's plug-in PC card with alternate hardware
to no avail. The computers cannot Ping each other over TCP/IP, but they can
connect to the Internet and can network over NetBEUI with any of the
hardware.

I have searched the Web and have found a couple of articles about networking
over TCP/IP. I have tried all their suggestions to no avail. Does anybody
have any suggestions for me?

Ira B.

On all 3 PCs, open a MS-DOS prompt window and do an
IPCONFIG command. You might see 3 Ethernet adapters (if
all three PCs are attached to the network), two of them
will have zeros in the values, but the one for the PC
entering the command will have values. You'll see IP
address (the IP# for the PC), subnet mask (the numbers for
your LAN network), and default gateway (the IP for the
router). All 3 PCs should have the same value in Subnet
mask (usually 255.255.255.0) and the same value for
default gateway (the IP of the router). They should each
have a different IP. Right click Network Neighborhood and
choose properties. Make sure Client for Microsoft network
is installed and is the default network logon. Go to the
Network identification tab and make sure each PC has a
different 8-character (or less) name with no spaces, and
that they all have the same workgroup. Make sure file and
print sharing is enabled and make it share level (not user
level). Go into "TCP/IP ---> ethernet adapter" (whatever
the ethernet adapter is) and look at the tabs for each of
the values. In DNS, enter the IP of the router, enter the
PC network ID into HOST and add the router's IP to the
list of DNS entries. If the value criteria mentioned
above are wrong (like subnet mask are not all 3 the same,
or IPs are not all different, or default gateway is not
pointing to your router), change from automatically
getting settings to manually setting them. Add the router
to the list of default gateways (it should be the only one
in there then). DHCP should be disabled then because
you've done it manually. How do you configure your
router? Is it via your browser? However it's done, do it
and make sure all the values are like you've set them up
on the PCs. Finally, reboot the router and the PCs.
Anything I missed or didn't explain correctly? Let us
know how it all works out, OK?
>-----Original Message-----
>I am attempting to network 3 computers in my home, a
Gateway desktop, a
>Toshiba laptop and a Dell WebPC; all run Win 98SE. I am
using a US Robotics
>8054 802.11g Wireless Router. In addition to wireless
capability the 8054
>has a 4-port Ethernet switch. The Gateway desktop and the
Toshiba laptop are
>to be hard wired to the 8054's switch ports. The Dell
WebPC will connect
>wirelessly via a US Robotics 5420 802.11g Wireless USB
Adapter. The 5420
>must network via TCP/IP - it cannot use NetBEUI. In fact,
if NetBEUI is
>loaded on the computer the 5420 is attached to it will
fail to boot.
>
>Therefore, I need to get the other two computers hard
wired to the 8054
>switch networked via TCP/IP. I have been unable to do
this. The two
>computers can network if NetBEUI is installed but not
over TCP/IP. They
>cannot Ping each other although they can Ping themselves
and the 8054. It is
>also possible to access the Internet from each computer
through a DSL modem
>attached to the 8054. This would seem to indicate that
the hardware is
>working OK. Nevertheless, I have replaced the 8054 with a
hub and the
>Gateway's PCI card and the Toshiba's plug-in PC card with
alternate hardware
>to no avail. The computers cannot Ping each other over
TCP/IP, but they can
>connect to the Internet and can network over NetBEUI with
any of the
>hardware.
>
>I have searched the Web and have found a couple of
articles about networking
>over TCP/IP. I have tried all their suggestions to no
avail. Does anybody
>have any suggestions for me?
>
>Ira B.
>
>
>.
>

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Tip #1 on all PCs

Carey

"Ira Blumenthal" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:USh9d.16758$1g5.10836@trnddc07...
>I am attempting to network 3 computers in my home, a Gateway desktop, a
> Toshiba laptop and a Dell WebPC; all run Win 98SE. I am using a US
> Robotics
> 8054 802.11g Wireless Router. In addition to wireless capability the 8054
> has a 4-port Ethernet switch. The Gateway desktop and the Toshiba laptop
> are
> to be hard wired to the 8054's switch ports. The Dell WebPC will connect
> wirelessly via a US Robotics 5420 802.11g Wireless USB Adapter. The 5420
> must network via TCP/IP - it cannot use NetBEUI. In fact, if NetBEUI is
> loaded on the computer the 5420 is attached to it will fail to boot.
>
> Therefore, I need to get the other two computers hard wired to the 8054
> switch networked via TCP/IP. I have been unable to do this. The two
> computers can network if NetBEUI is installed but not over TCP/IP. They
> cannot Ping each other although they can Ping themselves and the 8054. It
> is
> also possible to access the Internet from each computer through a DSL
> modem
> attached to the 8054. This would seem to indicate that the hardware is
> working OK. Nevertheless, I have replaced the 8054 with a hub and the
> Gateway's PCI card and the Toshiba's plug-in PC card with alternate
> hardware
> to no avail. The computers cannot Ping each other over TCP/IP, but they
> can
> connect to the Internet and can network over NetBEUI with any of the
> hardware.
>
> I have searched the Web and have found a couple of articles about
> networking
> over TCP/IP. I have tried all their suggestions to no avail. Does anybody
> have any suggestions for me?
>
> Ira B.
>
>

Thanks to Don for his response and suggestions. I now know what my problem
was and it had nothing to do with configuring TCP/IP. The problem was the
firewall software I was using, the no-charge version of Zone Labs Zone
Alarm. The no-charge version of Zone Alarm blocks all TCP/IP access to the
computer it is installed on preventing all network access using TCP/IP. Thus
when I removed the TCP/IP protocol from my LAN adapters and bound them to
NetBEUI, I was able to share files across the network. However, when TCP/IP
was bound to the adapters, even though NetBEUI was still bound to them, the
firewall prevented access. Since TCP/IP is needed for DSL Internet access
this was no good at all.

It is really annoying that Zone Labs does not tell you that the no-charge
version of Zone Alarm is no good for a networked PC. You have to dig into
the support info on their web site to find it. The charge version, Zone
Alarm Pro, can be used for network access. However, they use the same
interface for the no-charge version so it appears at first that, it too, can
be used on a networked PC - very confusing.

Now I am looking for some inexpensive or no-charge firewall software that
will run on a networked PC. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Ira

"Don" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:232501c4ad3f$7578ea60$(E-Mail Removed)...
> On all 3 PCs, open a MS-DOS prompt window and do an
> IPCONFIG command. You might see 3 Ethernet adapters (if
> all three PCs are attached to the network), two of them
> will have zeros in the values, but the one for the PC
> entering the command will have values. You'll see IP
> address (the IP# for the PC), subnet mask (the numbers for
> your LAN network), and default gateway (the IP for the
> router). All 3 PCs should have the same value in Subnet
> mask (usually 255.255.255.0) and the same value for
> default gateway (the IP of the router). They should each
> have a different IP. Right click Network Neighborhood and
> choose properties. Make sure Client for Microsoft network
> is installed and is the default network logon. Go to the
> Network identification tab and make sure each PC has a
> different 8-character (or less) name with no spaces, and
> that they all have the same workgroup. Make sure file and
> print sharing is enabled and make it share level (not user
> level). Go into "TCP/IP ---> ethernet adapter" (whatever
> the ethernet adapter is) and look at the tabs for each of
> the values. In DNS, enter the IP of the router, enter the
> PC network ID into HOST and add the router's IP to the
> list of DNS entries. If the value criteria mentioned
> above are wrong (like subnet mask are not all 3 the same,
> or IPs are not all different, or default gateway is not
> pointing to your router), change from automatically
> getting settings to manually setting them. Add the router
> to the list of default gateways (it should be the only one
> in there then). DHCP should be disabled then because
> you've done it manually. How do you configure your
> router? Is it via your browser? However it's done, do it
> and make sure all the values are like you've set them up
> on the PCs. Finally, reboot the router and the PCs.
> Anything I missed or didn't explain correctly? Let us
> know how it all works out, OK?
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I am attempting to network 3 computers in my home, a
> Gateway desktop, a
> >Toshiba laptop and a Dell WebPC; all run Win 98SE. I am
> using a US Robotics
> >8054 802.11g Wireless Router. In addition to wireless
> capability the 8054
> >has a 4-port Ethernet switch. The Gateway desktop and the
> Toshiba laptop are
> >to be hard wired to the 8054's switch ports. The Dell
> WebPC will connect
> >wirelessly via a US Robotics 5420 802.11g Wireless USB
> Adapter. The 5420
> >must network via TCP/IP - it cannot use NetBEUI. In fact,
> if NetBEUI is
> >loaded on the computer the 5420 is attached to it will
> fail to boot.
> >
> >Therefore, I need to get the other two computers hard
> wired to the 8054
> >switch networked via TCP/IP. I have been unable to do
> this. The two
> >computers can network if NetBEUI is installed but not
> over TCP/IP. They
> >cannot Ping each other although they can Ping themselves
> and the 8054. It is
> >also possible to access the Internet from each computer
> through a DSL modem
> >attached to the 8054. This would seem to indicate that
> the hardware is
> >working OK. Nevertheless, I have replaced the 8054 with a
> hub and the
> >Gateway's PCI card and the Toshiba's plug-in PC card with
> alternate hardware
> >to no avail. The computers cannot Ping each other over
> TCP/IP, but they can
> >connect to the Internet and can network over NetBEUI with
> any of the
> >hardware.
> >
> >I have searched the Web and have found a couple of
> articles about networking
> >over TCP/IP. I have tried all their suggestions to no
> avail. Does anybody
> >have any suggestions for me?
> >
> >Ira B.
> >
> >
> >.
> >

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:01:15 GMT, Ira Blumenthal wrote:


> Now I am looking for some inexpensive or no-charge firewall software that
> will run on a networked PC. Does anyone have any recommendations?
>
> Ira
>
Sygate personal firewall
http://smb.sygate.com/products/spf_standard.htm

I have been using the free Zone Alarm for years on my LAN. Excellent
product.
Zone Alarm does block incoming TCP/IP packets, unless you configure it
properly.
Click the firewall tab on the left, then click on ADD in the lower right.
Click on subnet then add your subnet info e.g. 192.168.0.0 subnet mask
255.255.255.0
This will open the firewall to the subnet used by most entry level routers,
while still blocking anything from outside your routers


"BobC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:01:15 GMT, Ira Blumenthal wrote:
>
>
>> Now I am looking for some inexpensive or no-charge firewall software that
>> will run on a networked PC. Does anyone have any recommendations?
>>
>> Ira
>>
> Sygate personal firewall
> http://smb.sygate.com/products/spf_standard.htm

I am certain TW is correct for the version of Zone Alarm he is using.
However, the version that I have (just recently downloaded) does not have an
ADD on the firewall tab. BobC's suggestion was a big help. I downloaded and
installed Sygate Personal Firewall. Tools|Options|Network Neighborhood tab
permits you to select check boxes to Allow to browse Network Neighborhood
file and printer(s) and to allow others to share my files and printer(s).
When these check boxes are selected full network access is available

"TW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have been using the free Zone Alarm for years on my LAN. Excellent
> product.
> Zone Alarm does block incoming TCP/IP packets, unless you configure it
> properly.
> Click the firewall tab on the left, then click on ADD in the lower right.
> Click on subnet then add your subnet info e.g. 192.168.0.0 subnet mask
> 255.255.255.0
> This will open the firewall to the subnet used by most entry level
routers,
> while still blocking anything from outside your routers
>
>
> "BobC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:01:15 GMT, Ira Blumenthal wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Now I am looking for some inexpensive or no-charge firewall software
that
> >> will run on a networked PC. Does anyone have any recommendations?
> >>
> >> Ira
> >>
> > Sygate personal firewall
> > http://smb.sygate.com/products/spf_standard.htm
>
>