Problem networking ME to XPProSP3

Here's the breakdown.

1 computer running ME. Wired to a Dlink Wireless hub(wireless is for my
laptop).
1 computer running XPPro. Wired to the Dlink hub.
Dlink hub running DHCP

XP and Norton firewall turned OFF.

XP sees the ME computer in Network Places/View workgroup computers, however,
XP cannot ping the ME computer.

ME CAN ping the XP computer but cannot see it in Network places.
I have even gone so far as to switchout the Dlink for a plain hub and
hard-code the IP addresses into each computer. NO GO

I have exhausted my personal knowledge base.

Your help is MOST appreciated.

BulldawgKenny schrieb:
> Here's the breakdown.
>
> 1 computer running ME. Wired to a Dlink Wireless hub(wireless is for my
> laptop).
> 1 computer running XPPro. Wired to the Dlink hub.
> Dlink hub running DHCP
>
> XP and Norton firewall turned OFF.
>
> XP sees the ME computer in Network Places/View workgroup computers, however,
> XP cannot ping the ME computer.
>
> ME CAN ping the XP computer but cannot see it in Network places.
> I have even gone so far as to switchout the Dlink for a plain hub and
> hard-code the IP addresses into each computer. NO GO
>
> I have exhausted my personal knowledge base.
>
> Your help is MOST appreciated.
Try removin IPX and installing TCP/IP and NetBEUI,.

On Sun, 29 May 2005 19:49:26 -0700, BulldawgKenny wrote:

> Here's the breakdown.
>
> 1 computer running ME. Wired to a Dlink Wireless hub(wireless is for my
> laptop).
> 1 computer running XPPro. Wired to the Dlink hub.
> Dlink hub running DHCP

Hubs don't run DHCP, but routers do. You apparently have a D-Link router
with a built in switch (not hub).

> XP and Norton firewall turned OFF.
>
> XP sees the ME computer in Network Places/View workgroup computers, however,
> XP cannot ping the ME computer.
>
> ME CAN ping the XP computer but cannot see it in Network places.
> I have even gone so far as to switchout the Dlink for a plain hub and
> hard-code the IP addresses into each computer. NO GO
>
> I have exhausted my personal knowledge base.
>
> Your help is MOST appreciated.

As old as this message is (hey! Dominik! Why'd you set me onto this one?),
maybe you have already sorted it out?

All that I can think of is to make sure that nothing is configured for
using WINS resolution. I once some somebody with a computer on the LAN
configured for WINS resolution; but there was no WINS service on the LAN,
so that computer couldn't find out what other computers were on the LAN. If
the Windows XP computer is on more often than the Windows ME computer,
maybe you need to turn off the Browse Master setting in the Windows ME
computer; let the Windows XP computer act as the Browse Master.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:18:07 +0200, Dominik George wrote:

> BulldawgKenny schrieb:
>> Here's the breakdown.
>>
>> 1 computer running ME. Wired to a Dlink Wireless hub(wireless is for my
>> laptop).
>> 1 computer running XPPro. Wired to the Dlink hub.
>> Dlink hub running DHCP
>>
>> XP and Norton firewall turned OFF.
>>
>> XP sees the ME computer in Network Places/View workgroup computers, however,
>> XP cannot ping the ME computer.
>>
>> ME CAN ping the XP computer but cannot see it in Network places.
>> I have even gone so far as to switchout the Dlink for a plain hub and
>> hard-code the IP addresses into each computer. NO GO
>>
>> I have exhausted my personal knowledge base.
>>
>> Your help is MOST appreciated.
> Try removin IPX and installing TCP/IP and NetBEUI,.

Where, in all of that, does the poster assert that he is using IPX/SPX? Or
anything other than the default protocol (TCP/IP)?

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Actually I was able to figure it out. Stupid me forgot that the ME computer
was running Norton Internet Security and needed to be reconfigured for the
home network.

Thanks Though.

"N. Miller" wrote:

> On Sun, 29 May 2005 19:49:26 -0700, BulldawgKenny wrote:
>
> > Here's the breakdown.
> >
> > 1 computer running ME. Wired to a Dlink Wireless hub(wireless is for my
> > laptop).
> > 1 computer running XPPro. Wired to the Dlink hub.
> > Dlink hub running DHCP
>
> Hubs don't run DHCP, but routers do. You apparently have a D-Link router
> with a built in switch (not hub).
>
> > XP and Norton firewall turned OFF.
> >
> > XP sees the ME computer in Network Places/View workgroup computers, however,
> > XP cannot ping the ME computer.
> >
> > ME CAN ping the XP computer but cannot see it in Network places.
> > I have even gone so far as to switchout the Dlink for a plain hub and
> > hard-code the IP addresses into each computer. NO GO
> >
> > I have exhausted my personal knowledge base.
> >
> > Your help is MOST appreciated.
>
> As old as this message is (hey! Dominik! Why'd you set me onto this one?),
> maybe you have already sorted it out?
>
> All that I can think of is to make sure that nothing is configured for
> using WINS resolution. I once some somebody with a computer on the LAN
> configured for WINS resolution; but there was no WINS service on the LAN,
> so that computer couldn't find out what other computers were on the LAN. If
> the Windows XP computer is on more often than the Windows ME computer,
> maybe you need to turn off the Browse Master setting in the Windows ME
> computer; let the Windows XP computer act as the Browse Master.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:25:08 -0700, bulldawgkenny wrote:

> Actually I was able to figure it out. Stupid me forgot that the ME computer
> was running Norton Internet Security and needed to be reconfigured for the
> home network.
>
> Thanks Though.

Any time. I was just a bit surprised that I got involved in an ancient (by
the time standards of this newsgroup) issue!
--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

N. Miller schrieb:
> On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:18:07 +0200, Dominik George wrote:
>
>
>>BulldawgKenny schrieb:
>>
>>>Here's the breakdown.
>>>
>>>1 computer running ME. Wired to a Dlink Wireless hub(wireless is for my
>>>laptop).
>>>1 computer running XPPro. Wired to the Dlink hub.
>>>Dlink hub running DHCP
>>>
>>>XP and Norton firewall turned OFF.
>>>
>>>XP sees the ME computer in Network Places/View workgroup computers, however,
>>>XP cannot ping the ME computer.
>>>
>>>ME CAN ping the XP computer but cannot see it in Network places.
>>>I have even gone so far as to switchout the Dlink for a plain hub and
>>>hard-code the IP addresses into each computer. NO GO
>>>
>>>I have exhausted my personal knowledge base.
>>>
>>>Your help is MOST appreciated.
>>
>>Try removin IPX and installing TCP/IP and NetBEUI,.
>
>
> Where, in all of that, does the poster assert that he is using IPX/SPX? Or
> anything other than the default protocol (TCP/IP)?
>

It was just a suggestion because Norton will in some cases switch to IPX
for security reasons. The point is to have TCP/IP and NetBEUI installed,
that's more important than removing IPX. NetBEUI is used by older
Norton versions to verify CIFS access.

N. Miller schrieb:
> On Sun, 29 May 2005 19:49:26 -0700, BulldawgKenny wrote:
>
>
>>Here's the breakdown.
>>
>>1 computer running ME. Wired to a Dlink Wireless hub(wireless is for my
>>laptop).
>>1 computer running XPPro. Wired to the Dlink hub.
>>Dlink hub running DHCP
>
>
> Hubs don't run DHCP, but routers do. You apparently have a D-Link router
> with a built in switch (not hub).
>
>
>>XP and Norton firewall turned OFF.
>>
>>XP sees the ME computer in Network Places/View workgroup computers, however,
>>XP cannot ping the ME computer.
>>
>>ME CAN ping the XP computer but cannot see it in Network places.
>>I have even gone so far as to switchout the Dlink for a plain hub and
>>hard-code the IP addresses into each computer. NO GO
>>
>>I have exhausted my personal knowledge base.
>>
>>Your help is MOST appreciated.
>
>
> As old as this message is (hey! Dominik! Why'd you set me onto this one?),
> maybe you have already sorted it out?
>
> All that I can think of is to make sure that nothing is configured for
> using WINS resolution. I once some somebody with a computer on the LAN
> configured for WINS resolution; but there was no WINS service on the LAN,
> so that computer couldn't find out what other computers were on the LAN. If
> the Windows XP computer is on more often than the Windows ME computer,
> maybe you need to turn off the Browse Master setting in the Windows ME
> computer; let the Windows XP computer act as the Browse Master.
>

WINS resolution should NOT be switched of, it rather should be
configured to use DHCP for WINS resolution. Otherwise, on a new client
connect, a WINS server is named by voting for the computer with the
highest OS level. In your case, that would be either the router (if it
does WINS resolution), or, which is more likely, the XP machine.

In article <dc7fhs$ugl$02$(E-Mail Removed)>, Dominik George
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>Here's the breakdown.
>>>
>>>1 computer running ME. Wired to a Dlink Wireless hub(wireless is for my
>>>laptop).
>>>1 computer running XPPro. Wired to the Dlink hub.
>>>Dlink hub running DHCP
>>
>> Hubs don't run DHCP, but routers do. You apparently have a D-Link router
>> with a built in switch (not hub).
>>
>>>XP and Norton firewall turned OFF.
>>>
>>>XP sees the ME computer in Network Places/View workgroup computers, however,
>>>XP cannot ping the ME computer.
>>>
>>>ME CAN ping the XP computer but cannot see it in Network places.
>>>I have even gone so far as to switchout the Dlink for a plain hub and
>>>hard-code the IP addresses into each computer. NO GO
>>>
>>>I have exhausted my personal knowledge base.
>>>
>>>Your help is MOST appreciated.
>>
>> As old as this message is (hey! Dominik! Why'd you set me onto this one?),
>> maybe you have already sorted it out?
>>
>> All that I can think of is to make sure that nothing is configured for
>> using WINS resolution. I once some somebody with a computer on the LAN
>> configured for WINS resolution; but there was no WINS service on the LAN,
>> so that computer couldn't find out what other computers were on the LAN. If
>> the Windows XP computer is on more often than the Windows ME computer,
>> maybe you need to turn off the Browse Master setting in the Windows ME
>> computer; let the Windows XP computer act as the Browse Master.
>
>WINS resolution should NOT be switched of, it rather should be
>configured to use DHCP for WINS resolution. Otherwise, on a new client
>connect, a WINS server is named by voting for the computer with the
>highest OS level. In your case, that would be either the router (if it
>does WINS resolution), or, which is more likely, the XP machine.

I think that you're confusing WINS and "browse master". That's easy
to do, because they're both pretty confusing in their own right.

A network with computers running only Windows Me and XP uses NetBIOS
broadcasts, not a WINS server, for name resolution. One of the
computers is elected to be the "browse master". That computer listens
to NetBIOS broadcasts from all of the computers, maintains the list of
computers and shared resources, and provides that list to other
computers to display in My Network Places.

"Use DHCP for WINS resolution" doesn't mean that the DHCP server acts
as a WINS server. It means that the client computer asks the DHCP
server to give it the address of a WINS server on the network. A
network consisting of just Windows Me and XP doesn't have a WINS
server, so the DHCP server can't provide such an address.

To have a WINS server, a network needs a computer with a server
operating system: Windows NT Server, Windows 2000 Server, Windows
Server 2003, a Unix variant running Samba, etc.
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"Dominik George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:dc7fbg$ugl$02$(E-Mail Removed)...
> N. Miller schrieb:
>> On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:18:07 +0200, Dominik George wrote:
>>
>>
>>>BulldawgKenny schrieb:
>>>
>>>>Here's the breakdown.
>>>>
>>>>1 computer running ME. Wired to a Dlink Wireless hub(wireless is for my
>>>>laptop).
>>>>1 computer running XPPro. Wired to the Dlink hub.
>>>>Dlink hub running DHCP
>>>>
>>>>XP and Norton firewall turned OFF.
>>>>
>>>>XP sees the ME computer in Network Places/View workgroup computers,
>>>>however, XP cannot ping the ME computer.
>>>>
>>>>ME CAN ping the XP computer but cannot see it in Network places.
>>>>I have even gone so far as to switchout the Dlink for a plain hub and
>>>>hard-code the IP addresses into each computer. NO GO
>>>>
>>>>I have exhausted my personal knowledge base.
>>>>
>>>>Your help is MOST appreciated.
>>>
>>>Try removin IPX and installing TCP/IP and NetBEUI,.
>>
>>
>> Where, in all of that, does the poster assert that he is using IPX/SPX?
>> Or
>> anything other than the default protocol (TCP/IP)?
>>
>
> It was just a suggestion because Norton will in some cases switch to IPX
> for security reasons. The point is to have TCP/IP and NetBEUI installed,
> that's more important than removing IPX. NetBEUI is used by older Norton
> versions to verify CIFS access.

Even Norton doesn't have the absolute gall to change these settings, AFAIK -
if they've been changed, then it's by user-intervention.

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