PPPoE and RRAS

Hi,

Our office just moved and we switched from a cable company
to ADSL company for Internet.

configuration:

WAN -- modem -- server 2003(NAT & VPN) -- LAN

I want to share the connection on my LAN through RRAS but
cannot find the sufficient info to do it...

It was easier when I had cable since the NIC connected to
the Internet had the IP given by our ISP but not for a
PPPoE connection...

Need help plz!!!

Sincerely,

Pierre-Charles

I'd avoid ICS if at all possible. Get a hardware firewall/router
appliance - it can do NAT for you instead of having your server do it. It
will handle the PPPoE connection and let you share out the Internet
connection with your entire network. Disable DHCP on the router and keep
your Windows server doing DHCP.

There are many options for such appliances - you can pick up a NetGear
FR114P for about $80 USD or check out www.sonicwall.com for some more
full-featured devices. I personally use Sonicwalls everywhere and use their
proprietary IPSec VPN instead of native Windows VPN...it works really really
well.

PC wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Our office just moved and we switched from a cable company
> to ADSL company for Internet.
>
> configuration:
>
> WAN -- modem -- server 2003(NAT & VPN) -- LAN
>
> I want to share the connection on my LAN through RRAS but
> cannot find the sufficient info to do it...
>
> It was easier when I had cable since the NIC connected to
> the Internet had the IP given by our ISP but not for a
> PPPoE connection...
>
> Need help plz!!!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Pierre-Charles

Thank you for the advise.

The thing is that I'm using a router (NAT) as we speak in
replacement of the RRAS console and Server 2003 doing the
NAT. But I want to setup the NAT on my server so I can get
the MSN VPN to work. I know tha ICS is not good for
security that is why I'm trying to make the NAT/basic
firewall to work in the RRAS snap-in with my new ADSL
connection.

Thanks again for your time,

Pierre-Charles Mignault
>-----Original Message-----
>I'd avoid ICS if at all possible. Get a hardware
firewall/router
>appliance - it can do NAT for you instead of having your
server do it. It
>will handle the PPPoE connection and let you share out the
Internet
>connection with your entire network. Disable DHCP on the
router and keep
>your Windows server doing DHCP.
>
>There are many options for such appliances - you can pick
up a NetGear
>FR114P for about $80 USD or check out www.sonicwall.com
for some more
>full-featured devices. I personally use Sonicwalls
everywhere and use their
>proprietary IPSec VPN instead of native Windows VPN...it
works really really
>well.

If you have Server 2003, have you tried using the PPPoE interface in
RRAS?

"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:f53701c43dd5$538db220$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thank you for the advise.
>
> The thing is that I'm using a router (NAT) as we speak in
> replacement of the RRAS console and Server 2003 doing the
> NAT. But I want to setup the NAT on my server so I can get
> the MSN VPN to work. I know tha ICS is not good for
> security that is why I'm trying to make the NAT/basic
> firewall to work in the RRAS snap-in with my new ADSL
> connection.
>
> Thanks again for your time,
>
> Pierre-Charles Mignault
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I'd avoid ICS if at all possible. Get a hardware
> firewall/router
> >appliance - it can do NAT for you instead of having your
> server do it. It
> >will handle the PPPoE connection and let you share out the
> Internet
> >connection with your entire network. Disable DHCP on the
> router and keep
> >your Windows server doing DHCP.
> >
> >There are many options for such appliances - you can pick
> up a NetGear
> >FR114P for about $80 USD or check out www.sonicwall.com
> for some more
> >full-featured devices. I personally use Sonicwalls
> everywhere and use their
> >proprietary IPSec VPN instead of native Windows VPN...it
> works really really
> >well.
>

That is exactly the thing I'm trying to do... Use RRAS to
get my PPPoE connection to work.

I need a HOW TO because I can't see the WAN Mini Port
(PPPoE) in the "port" section of the RRAS snap-in.

Thanks,

Pierre-Charles


>-----Original Message-----
> If you have Server 2003, have you tried using the
PPPoE interface in
>RRAS?
>
>"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:f53701c43dd5$538db220$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thank you for the advise.
>>
>> The thing is that I'm using a router (NAT) as we speak in
>> replacement of the RRAS console and Server 2003 doing the
>> NAT. But I want to setup the NAT on my server so I can get
>> the MSN VPN to work. I know tha ICS is not good for
>> security that is why I'm trying to make the NAT/basic
>> firewall to work in the RRAS snap-in with my new ADSL
>> connection.
>>
>> Thanks again for your time,
>>
>> Pierre-Charles Mignault

That's odd. It shows up in mine, even though I don't have PPPoE router!

"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:fb2601c43e6f$66b1d940$(E-Mail Removed)...
> That is exactly the thing I'm trying to do... Use RRAS to
> get my PPPoE connection to work.
>
> I need a HOW TO because I can't see the WAN Mini Port
> (PPPoE) in the "port" section of the RRAS snap-in.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pierre-Charles
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> > If you have Server 2003, have you tried using the
> PPPoE interface in
> >RRAS?
> >
> >"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:f53701c43dd5$538db220$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Thank you for the advise.
> >>
> >> The thing is that I'm using a router (NAT) as we speak in
> >> replacement of the RRAS console and Server 2003 doing the
> >> NAT. But I want to setup the NAT on my server so I can get
> >> the MSN VPN to work. I know tha ICS is not good for
> >> security that is why I'm trying to make the NAT/basic
> >> firewall to work in the RRAS snap-in with my new ADSL
> >> connection.
> >>
> >> Thanks again for your time,
> >>
> >> Pierre-Charles Mignault

Okay I got the port in the RRAS snap-in... is there a
Walkthrough to set up PPPOE connection to my ISP via
RRAS???

Need help plz,

Pierre-Charles

>-----Original Message-----
> That's odd. It shows up in mine, even though I don't
have PPPoE router!
>
>"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news:fb2601c43e6f$66b1d940$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> That is exactly the thing I'm trying to do... Use RRAS
to
>> get my PPPoE connection to work.
>>
>> I need a HOW TO because I can't see the WAN Mini Port
>> (PPPoE) in the "port" section of the RRAS snap-in.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Pierre-Charles
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> > If you have Server 2003, have you tried using the
>> PPPoE interface in
>> >RRAS?
>> >
>> >"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>> >news:f53701c43dd5$538db220$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> Thank you for the advise.
>> >>
>> >> The thing is that I'm using a router (NAT) as we
speak in
>> >> replacement of the RRAS console and Server 2003
doing the
>> >> NAT. But I want to setup the NAT on my server so I
can get
>> >> the MSN VPN to work. I know tha ICS is not good for
>> >> security that is why I'm trying to make the
NAT/basic
>> >> firewall to work in the RRAS snap-in with my new
ADSL
>> >> connection.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again for your time,
>> >>
>> >> Pierre-Charles Mignault
>
>
>.
>

Never done it myself, as I don't have a PPPoE setup. What about KB 317496
"HOW TO: Create a PPPoE Connection in Windows Server 2003" ?

"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:104b501c43f4d$7394f4b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Okay I got the port in the RRAS snap-in... is there a
> Walkthrough to set up PPPOE connection to my ISP via
> RRAS???
>
> Need help plz,
>
> Pierre-Charles
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> > That's odd. It shows up in mine, even though I don't
> have PPPoE router!
> >
> >"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message
> >news:fb2601c43e6f$66b1d940$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> That is exactly the thing I'm trying to do... Use RRAS
> to
> >> get my PPPoE connection to work.
> >>
> >> I need a HOW TO because I can't see the WAN Mini Port
> >> (PPPoE) in the "port" section of the RRAS snap-in.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Pierre-Charles
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> > If you have Server 2003, have you tried using the
> >> PPPoE interface in
> >> >RRAS?
> >> >
> >> >"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message
> >> >news:f53701c43dd5$538db220$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> Thank you for the advise.
> >> >>
> >> >> The thing is that I'm using a router (NAT) as we
> speak in
> >> >> replacement of the RRAS console and Server 2003
> doing the
> >> >> NAT. But I want to setup the NAT on my server so I
> can get
> >> >> the MSN VPN to work. I know tha ICS is not good for
> >> >> security that is why I'm trying to make the
> NAT/basic
> >> >> firewall to work in the RRAS snap-in with my new
> ADSL
> >> >> connection.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks again for your time,
> >> >>
> >> >> Pierre-Charles Mignault
> >
> >
> >.
> >

No this won't help because it is not using the RRAS so I
cannot install my VPN from there... But thanks anyway
I'll look around if I can find help.

Regards,

Pierre-Charles

>-----Original Message-----
> Never done it myself, as I don't have a PPPoE setup.
What about KB 317496
>"HOW TO: Create a PPPoE Connection in Windows Server
2003" ?
>
>"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news:104b501c43f4d$7394f4b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Okay I got the port in the RRAS snap-in... is there a
>> Walkthrough to set up PPPOE connection to my ISP via
>> RRAS???
>>
>> Need help plz,
>>
>> Pierre-Charles
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> > That's odd. It shows up in mine, even though I
don't
>> have PPPoE router!
>> >
>> >"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message
>> >news:fb2601c43e6f$66b1d940$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> That is exactly the thing I'm trying to do... Use
RRAS
>> to
>> >> get my PPPoE connection to work.
>> >>
>> >> I need a HOW TO because I can't see the WAN Mini
Port
>> >> (PPPoE) in the "port" section of the RRAS snap-in.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Pierre-Charles
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> > If you have Server 2003, have you tried using
the
>> >> PPPoE interface in
>> >> >RRAS?
>> >> >
>> >> >"PC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message
>> >> >news:f53701c43dd5$538db220$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> Thank you for the advise.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The thing is that I'm using a router (NAT) as we
>> speak in
>> >> >> replacement of the RRAS console and Server 2003
>> doing the
>> >> >> NAT. But I want to setup the NAT on my server
so I
>> can get
>> >> >> the MSN VPN to work. I know tha ICS is not good
for
>> >> >> security that is why I'm trying to make the
>> NAT/basic
>> >> >> firewall to work in the RRAS snap-in with my new
>> ADSL
>> >> >> connection.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks again for your time,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pierre-Charles Mignault
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>