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Rich Grise
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      12-23-2004, 11:02 PM
I'm going all giddy here - I've got a real live domain name, and a real
live server right here in the office.

So, the next logical step is email.

What's the path of least pain from here to a mailbox on the server that
the PHB can just go to with M$ outlook? "The Server" is Slack 10.0, with
Samba, Apache, and sendmail right out of the box, and ps ax has:
mustangengr@ops:/etc$ ps ax
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
1 ? S 0:04 init [3]
2 ? S 0:00 [keventd]
3 ? SN 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
4 ? S 0:13 [kswapd]
5 ? S 0:00 [bdflush]
6 ? S 0:01 [kupdated]
10 ? S< 0:00 [mdrecoveryd]
11 ? S 0:00 [kreiserfsd]
68 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/syslogd -m 360
71 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/klogd -c 3 -x
182 ? S 0:00 [khubd]
1001 ? Ss 0:00 /sbin/dhcpcd -d -t 10 -h ops eth0
1286 ? Ss 0:00 /sbin/rpc.portmap
1759 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
1762 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
1766 ? Ss 0:23 /usr/sbin/named
1777 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.rquotad
1779 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
1780 ? S 0:00 [lockd]
1781 ? S 0:00 [rpciod]
1782 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
1783 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
1784 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
1785 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
1786 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
1787 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
1788 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
1791 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd
1794 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.statd
1801 ? Ss 0:00 lpd Waiting
1804 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/crond -l10
1806 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd -b 15 -l 1
1809 ? Ss 0:00 sendmail: accepting connections
1812 ? Ss 0:00 sendmail: Queue runner@00:25:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue
1822 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
1824 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
1826 ? Ss 0:08 /usr/sbin/nmbd -D
1828 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/nmbd -D
1829 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/mouse -t imps2
1832 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd
1849 ? SLs 0:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd
2317 tty1 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
2318 tty2 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
2319 tty3 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
2320 tty4 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
2321 tty5 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
2322 tty6 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
21546 ? Ss 0:00 sshd: admin [priv]
21548 ? R 0:00 sshd: admin@pts/0
21549 pts/0 Ss 0:00 -bash
21563 ? Ss 0:00 sshd: admin [priv]
21565 ? S 0:00 sshd: admin@pts/1
21566 pts/1 Ss 0:00 -bash
21713 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
21735 pts/1 S+ 0:00 bash
22283 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
22293 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
22294 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
22295 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
22296 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
22297 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
22300 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
22317 pts/0 S 0:00 -su
22367 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
22376 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
22377 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
22378 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
22500 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
22536 pts/0 R+ 0:00 ps ax
mustangengr@ops:/etc$

I've also been reading posts about spamfilters - I'm wide open to
recommendations here, as to whether it's worth bothering to make
real email boxes, that are just going to be overwhelmed with spam,
but actually, I would like to have the filter right here at my
grubby little fingertips, so I could blacklist or whitelist or
whatever I want to. :-)

So, what's recommended that I read first?

Thanks!
Rich

 
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      12-23-2004, 11:31 PM
You probably have the SendMail software on the linux distro, so read the
docs for it, about smtp on port 25, and pop3 on port 110... read carefully
the parts that tell you how to avoid being a relay for spammers.

"Rich Grise" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm going all giddy here - I've got a real live domain name, and a real
> live server right here in the office.
>
> So, the next logical step is email.
>
> What's the path of least pain from here to a mailbox on the server that
> the PHB can just go to with M$ outlook? "The Server" is Slack 10.0, with
> Samba, Apache, and sendmail right out of the box, and ps ax has:
> mustangengr@ops:/etc$ ps ax
> PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
> 1 ? S 0:04 init [3]
> 2 ? S 0:00 [keventd]
> 3 ? SN 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
> 4 ? S 0:13 [kswapd]
> 5 ? S 0:00 [bdflush]
> 6 ? S 0:01 [kupdated]
> 10 ? S< 0:00 [mdrecoveryd]
> 11 ? S 0:00 [kreiserfsd]
> 68 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/syslogd -m 360
> 71 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/klogd -c 3 -x
> 182 ? S 0:00 [khubd]
> 1001 ? Ss 0:00 /sbin/dhcpcd -d -t 10 -h ops eth0
> 1286 ? Ss 0:00 /sbin/rpc.portmap
> 1759 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
> 1762 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
> 1766 ? Ss 0:23 /usr/sbin/named
> 1777 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.rquotad
> 1779 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
> 1780 ? S 0:00 [lockd]
> 1781 ? S 0:00 [rpciod]
> 1782 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
> 1783 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
> 1784 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
> 1785 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
> 1786 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
> 1787 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
> 1788 ? S 0:00 [nfsd]
> 1791 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd
> 1794 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.statd
> 1801 ? Ss 0:00 lpd Waiting
> 1804 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/crond -l10
> 1806 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd -b 15 -l 1
> 1809 ? Ss 0:00 sendmail: accepting connections
> 1812 ? Ss 0:00 sendmail: Queue runner@00:25:00 for

/var/spool/clientmqueue
> 1822 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 1824 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
> 1826 ? Ss 0:08 /usr/sbin/nmbd -D
> 1828 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/nmbd -D
> 1829 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/mouse -t imps2
> 1832 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd
> 1849 ? SLs 0:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd
> 2317 tty1 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
> 2318 tty2 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
> 2319 tty3 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
> 2320 tty4 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
> 2321 tty5 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
> 2322 tty6 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
> 21546 ? Ss 0:00 sshd: admin [priv]
> 21548 ? R 0:00 sshd: admin@pts/0
> 21549 pts/0 Ss 0:00 -bash
> 21563 ? Ss 0:00 sshd: admin [priv]
> 21565 ? S 0:00 sshd: admin@pts/1
> 21566 pts/1 Ss 0:00 -bash
> 21713 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
> 21735 pts/1 S+ 0:00 bash
> 22283 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
> 22293 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 22294 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 22295 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 22296 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 22297 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 22300 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 22317 pts/0 S 0:00 -su
> 22367 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 22376 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 22377 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 22378 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd
> 22500 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
> 22536 pts/0 R+ 0:00 ps ax
> mustangengr@ops:/etc$
>
> I've also been reading posts about spamfilters - I'm wide open to
> recommendations here, as to whether it's worth bothering to make
> real email boxes, that are just going to be overwhelmed with spam,
> but actually, I would like to have the filter right here at my
> grubby little fingertips, so I could blacklist or whitelist or
> whatever I want to. :-)
>
> So, what's recommended that I read first?
>
> Thanks!
> Rich
>



 
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Rich Grise
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      12-24-2004, 08:54 PM
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:31:07 +0000, PC wrote:

> You probably have the SendMail software on the linux distro, so read the
> docs for it, about smtp on port 25, and pop3 on port 110... read carefully
> the parts that tell you how to avoid being a relay for spammers.



Sendmail, huh? I was afraid of that. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich

> "Rich Grise" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I'm going all giddy here - I've got a real live domain name, and a real
>> live server right here in the office.
>>
>> So, the next logical step is email.
>>
>> What's the path of least pain from here to a mailbox on the server that
>> the PHB can just go to with M$ outlook? "The Server" is Slack 10.0, with
>> Samba, Apache, and sendmail right out of the box, and ps ax has:
>> mustangengr@ops:/etc$ ps ax
>> PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
>> 1 ? S 0:04 init [3]

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Skylar Thompson
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      12-25-2004, 05:07 PM
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:02:20 GMT, Rich Grise <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> I'm going all giddy here - I've got a real live domain name, and a real
> live server right here in the office.
>
> So, the next logical step is email.
>
> What's the path of least pain from here to a mailbox on the server that
> the PHB can just go to with M$ outlook? "The Server" is Slack 10.0, with
> Samba, Apache, and sendmail right out of the box, and ps ax has:


You can use Sendmail if you want to (it's probably configured pretty much
the way you need it), but in the long run you'll probably find Postfix
(http://www.postfix.org) much easier to maintain. Sendmail can be a bit of
a bear when it comes to configuration.

[snip]

> I've also been reading posts about spamfilters - I'm wide open to
> recommendations here, as to whether it's worth bothering to make
> real email boxes, that are just going to be overwhelmed with spam,
> but actually, I would like to have the filter right here at my
> grubby little fingertips, so I could blacklist or whitelist or
> whatever I want to. :-)


If you go the SpamAssassin route, I highly recommend either MailScanner
(http://www.mailscanner.info) or MIMEDefang (http://www.mimedefang.org),
either one coupled with ClamAV (http://www.clamav.net) and SpamAssassin
(http://www.spamassassin.org).

If you go with Postfix, your best option is Amavis (http://www.amavis.org).
I believe you can also get SpamAssassin working with Postfix.

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-- Skylar Thompson ((E-Mail Removed))
-- http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~skylar/
 
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      12-29-2004, 10:36 PM
Forget sendmail, its a bear to maintain and configure, a gigantic dinosaur -
use Postfix instead.
Eric


 
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