Plusnet Traffic shaping and Business Accounts

On 11 Oct 2005 23:33:05 GMT, "Cary Moore"
<cary.moore@noemail_sherbrooke.plus.com> wrote:

>Is NNTP traffic shaped on Business accounts the same way it is on
>Residential?
>
>We use a number of different NNTP feeds from Borland, Microsoft and
>about another 14 companies who provide developer support via NNTP and
>have noticed a severe degredation in download speeds when retrieving
>messages.
>
>The Broadband AUP say "Traffic shaping is used to a greater or lesser
>extent on all our Broadband Services. The effects of this should be
>virtually un-noticeable to Business customers...". What exactly does
>this mean?
>
>I might also add that not all businesses work 9-5 (we operate between
>8am and midnight) and while traffic seems to be okay during the day,
>from about 5pm onwards it's poor (5-15% of normal throughput).
>
>We're paying for a 2Mb connection (Business Premier up to 4Mb) and at
>times only getting something slightly better than bonded ISDN
>connections!
>
>Cary.

Wow!

If what you're saying is correct, and Plusnet IS also crippling NNTP
traffic on business accounts then something is *seriously* wrong at
Plusnet Towers.

Are they trying to get rid of *everyone* who uses NNTP/P2P etc.?

Steve wrote


>
> Are they trying to get rid of *everyone* who uses NNTP/P2P etc.?
>

They want to supply a dialup service for broadband prices.

MinusNet wrote:
> Steve wrote
>
>
>>
>> Are they trying to get rid of *everyone* who uses NNTP/P2P etc.?
>>
>
> They want to supply a dialup service for broadband prices.

Cough, don't know how to say this but I found a Wannado 500k connection
was accessing all the sites I use for testing faster than my 1Mb Plusnet
Premier account does today..

I can see I'm going to have to do some serious thinking soon, unless the
downward trend gets turned around. They've got until next April, got
more important things to worry about (& more importantly pay for) before
then, indeed I won't be able to use this connection for most of
February, by the looks of things (wife, home improvements, decorating,
you get my drift)

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:51:46 +0100, "Kraftee"
<(E-Mail Removed) please we're bristish.com> wrote:

>MinusNet wrote:
>> Steve wrote
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Are they trying to get rid of *everyone* who uses NNTP/P2P etc.?
>>>
>>
>> They want to supply a dialup service for broadband prices.
>
>Cough, don't know how to say this but I found a Wannado 500k connection
>was accessing all the sites I use for testing faster than my 1Mb Plusnet
>Premier account does today..
>
>I can see I'm going to have to do some serious thinking soon, unless the
>downward trend gets turned around. They've got until next April, got
>more important things to worry about (& more importantly pay for) before
>then, indeed I won't be able to use this connection for most of
>February, by the looks of things (wife, home improvements, decorating,
>you get my drift)
>

Yes - they do seem to be making an awful lot of bad publicity - and
they don't seem in the least bit concerned about it.

It is almost as if there is a deliberate plot......PlotNet?

Piss Net wrote


> Yes - they do seem to be making an awful lot of bad publicity - and
> they don't seem in the least bit concerned about it.
>
> It is almost as if there is a deliberate plot......PlotNet?
>

FuckedupNet

On 12 Oct 2005 03:01, Steve <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>If what you're saying is correct, and Plusnet IS also crippling NNTP
>traffic on business accounts then something is *seriously* wrong at
>Plusnet Towers.

Just by way of follow-up (this thread is longer on p.s.c-f)
Plus.Net Support later posted:

We've made changes to add the following text news servers into
the silver queue

secnews.netscape.com - 204.29.187.156
asp-member.cifnet.net - 198.63.208.251
belgarath.linuxfromscratch.org - 216.171.238.83
cnews1.corel.ca - 216.191.232.194
dev-forums.novell.com - 130.57.1.74
dizzy.quo.to - 66.98.148.123
eclipse.org - 204.138.98.10
et.symantec.com - 198.6.49.41
individual.net - 130.133.1.4
london.vmware.com - 208.48.65.103
msnews.microsoft.com - 207.46.248.16
news.cesmail.net - 216.154.195.61
news.gradwell.net - 193.111.200.92
news.grc.com - 204.1.226.254
news.rennlist.org - 64.145.15.200
news.x-privat.org - 81.174.12.30
news.grc.com - 209.164.4.82
sea.gmane.org - 80.91.229.5
sunsite.dk - 130.225.247.90
support-forums.novell.com - 130.57.1.73
vip106.sybase.com - 192.138.151.106

text.giganews.com will be added tomorrow.

and Cary (following an invitate to list other text only servers) posted

All are servers run by companies who provide software development tools
that we use.

news.eurekalog.com
news.devexpress.com
newsgroups.borland.com
news.lmd.de
news.nevrona.com
news.soft-gems.net
news.digital-metaphors.com
www.berneda.com
206.123.68.235
support.atozedsoftware.com
msnews.microsoft.com
forums.talkto.net

someone else posted news.opera.com

[ in case anyone thinks Plus.Net Support has ignored this thread ]


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