PlusNet Sustainable Usage Guide - Real Maximum Speeds

OK, Plusnet have now published the guidelines:

http://www.plus.net/support/features...ge_guide.shtml

I thought I'd do a little calculation to work out how to throttle
Azureus during peak hours and this is what I got:

Peak Time - 30 Gb per month between 4 and 12

30 Gb per month = 0.99 Gb per day (based on 12 months / 365 days)
so maxed out over the 8 hours gives you just 36 Kbps to play with.

So I thought I'd see what the remaining 70 Gb per month over the
remaining 16 hours per day works out at - 42 Kbps not much more!

And 100 Gb over 24 hours a day works out at 40 Kbps

This stinks! PlusNet users are basically limited to less than 1/7 of
our connection speed.

Damn, I jumped the Pipex boat at the wrong time to the wrong island.

Hmmm. How much do PlusNet charge to migrate out in the first 12
months...?

--

Shevek


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"Shevek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
> OK, Plusnet have now published the guidelines:
>
> http://www.plus.net/support/features...ge_guide.shtml
>
> I thought I'd do a little calculation to work out how to throttle
> Azureus during peak hours and this is what I got:
>
> Peak Time - 30 Gb per month between 4 and 12
>
> 30 Gb per month = 0.99 Gb per day (based on 12 months / 365 days)
> so maxed out over the 8 hours gives you just 36 Kbps to play with.
>
> So I thought I'd see what the remaining 70 Gb per month over the
> remaining 16 hours per day works out at - 42 Kbps not much more!
>
> And 100 Gb over 24 hours a day works out at 40 Kbps
>
> This stinks! PlusNet users are basically limited to less than 1/7 of
> our connection speed.
>
> Damn, I jumped the Pipex boat at the wrong time to the wrong island.
>
> Hmmm. How much do PlusNet charge to migrate out in the first 12
> months...?
>
> --
>
> Shevek
>
>
> iTunesRegistry.com: 4,199 tracks, 2.968 diversity
> http://www.itunesregistry.com/ reports/reports.php?showuser=2 011
>
>
> Get DigiGuide - a downloadable desktop PC TV and Radio Guide
> http://getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r =31493
>
>
> Get Firefox!
> http://www.spreadfirefox.com/? q=affiliates&id=8681&t=1
>

"Shevek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
> OK, Plusnet have now published the guidelines:
>
> http://www.plus.net/support/features...ge_guide.shtml
>
> I thought I'd do a little calculation to work out how to throttle
> Azureus during peak hours and this is what I got:
>
> Peak Time - 30 Gb per month between 4 and 12
>
> 30 Gb per month = 0.99 Gb per day (based on 12 months / 365 days)
> so maxed out over the 8 hours gives you just 36 Kbps to play with.
>
> So I thought I'd see what the remaining 70 Gb per month over the
> remaining 16 hours per day works out at - 42 Kbps not much more!
>
> And 100 Gb over 24 hours a day works out at 40 Kbps
>
> This stinks! PlusNet users are basically limited to less than 1/7 of
> our connection speed.
>
> Damn, I jumped the Pipex boat at the wrong time to the wrong island.
>
> Hmmm. How much do PlusNet charge to migrate out in the first 12
> months...?

So do you really download 100Gb per month that it will reflect on your
service?

"Shevek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
> OK, Plusnet have now published the guidelines:
>
> http://www.plus.net/support/features...ge_guide.shtml
>
> I thought I'd do a little calculation to work out how to throttle
> Azureus during peak hours and this is what I got:
>
> Peak Time - 30 Gb per month between 4 and 12
>
> 30 Gb per month = 0.99 Gb per day (based on 12 months / 365 days)
> so maxed out over the 8 hours gives you just 36 Kbps to play with.
>
> So I thought I'd see what the remaining 70 Gb per month over the
> remaining 16 hours per day works out at - 42 Kbps not much more!
>
> And 100 Gb over 24 hours a day works out at 40 Kbps
>
> This stinks! PlusNet users are basically limited to less than 1/7 of
> our connection speed.
>
> Damn, I jumped the Pipex boat at the wrong time to the wrong island.
>
> Hmmm. How much do PlusNet charge to migrate out in the first 12
> months...?
>
> --
>
> Shevek
>
>
> iTunesRegistry.com: 4,199 tracks, 2.968 diversity
> http://www.itunesregistry.com/ reports/reports.php?showuser=2 011
>
>
> Get DigiGuide - a downloadable desktop PC TV and Radio Guide
> http://getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r =31493
>
>
> Get Firefox!
> http://www.spreadfirefox.com/? q=affiliates&id=8681&t=1
>

Are Plus.net saying you can't download over 30GB of peak traffic during a
month?

"Shevek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
> OK, Plusnet have now published the guidelines:
>
> http://www.plus.net/support/features...ge_guide.shtml
>
> I thought I'd do a little calculation to work out how to throttle
> Azureus during peak hours and this is what I got:
>
> Peak Time - 30 Gb per month between 4 and 12
>
> 30 Gb per month = 0.99 Gb per day (based on 12 months / 365 days)
> so maxed out over the 8 hours gives you just 36 Kbps to play with.
>
> So I thought I'd see what the remaining 70 Gb per month over the
> remaining 16 hours per day works out at - 42 Kbps not much more!
>
> And 100 Gb over 24 hours a day works out at 40 Kbps
>
> This stinks! PlusNet users are basically limited to less than 1/7 of
> our connection speed.
>
> Damn, I jumped the Pipex boat at the wrong time to the wrong island.
>
> Hmmm. How much do PlusNet charge to migrate out in the first 12
> months...?
>
> --
>
> Shevek
>
>
> iTunesRegistry.com: 4,199 tracks, 2.968 diversity
> http://www.itunesregistry.com/ reports/reports.php?showuser=2 011
>
>
> Get DigiGuide - a downloadable desktop PC TV and Radio Guide
> http://getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r =31493
>
>
> Get Firefox!
> http://www.spreadfirefox.com/? q=affiliates&id=8681&t=1
>

Shevek,

Your calculations may be correct (I haven't checked) but you based your
whole argument on 24 hrs, 7 day a week constant usage. That's not how a
typical consumer uses the Internet.

A non commercial user doesn't download 24/7 even if they do use peer to
peer. We don't all have to use peer to peer 24/7, perhaps a couple of nights
a week each week would be enough. A couple of hours browsing per evening and
downloading your email shouldn't need more than say 30GB a month total.
Remember this is a shared service. How you use your connection impacts on
others.

If you need to peer to peer or download 24/7 then fine there isn't a problem
with that but you need a comercial contract. Try it on Plusnet and you will
get speed capped. Seems fair to me.

Andy

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:29:18 +0100, "Gareth :-\\\) voom"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"Shevek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed) roups.com...
>> OK, Plusnet have now published the guidelines:
>>
>> http://www.plus.net/support/features...ge_guide.shtml
>>
>> I thought I'd do a little calculation to work out how to throttle
>> Azureus during peak hours and this is what I got:
>>
>> Peak Time - 30 Gb per month between 4 and 12
>>
>> 30 Gb per month = 0.99 Gb per day (based on 12 months / 365 days)
>> so maxed out over the 8 hours gives you just 36 Kbps to play with.
>>
>> So I thought I'd see what the remaining 70 Gb per month over the
>> remaining 16 hours per day works out at - 42 Kbps not much more!
>>
>> And 100 Gb over 24 hours a day works out at 40 Kbps
>>
>> This stinks! PlusNet users are basically limited to less than 1/7 of
>> our connection speed.
>>
>> Damn, I jumped the Pipex boat at the wrong time to the wrong island.
>>
>> Hmmm. How much do PlusNet charge to migrate out in the first 12
>> months...?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Shevek
>>
>>
>> iTunesRegistry.com: 4,199 tracks, 2.968 diversity
>> http://www.itunesregistry.com/ reports/reports.php?showuser=2 011
>>
>>
>> Get DigiGuide - a downloadable desktop PC TV and Radio Guide
>> http://getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r =31493
>>
>>
>> Get Firefox!
>> http://www.spreadfirefox.com/? q=affiliates&id=8681&t=1
>>
>
>Are Plus.net saying you can't download over 30GB of peak traffic during a
>month?
>

Basically yes - if you do more than that a few times in a few months
you'll get bandwidth limits on p2p and Usenet
--

Shevek

iTunesRegistry.com: 4,199 tracks, 2.968 diversity
http://www.itunesregistry.com/ reports/reports.php?showuser=2 011

Get DigiGuide - a downloadable desktop PC TV and Radio Guide
http://getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r =31493

Get Firefox!
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/? q=affiliates&id=8681&t=1

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:38:58 +0100, <x> wrote:

>Shevek,
>
>Your calculations may be correct (I haven't checked) but you based your
>whole argument on 24 hrs, 7 day a week constant usage. That's not how a
>typical consumer uses the Internet.
>
>A non commercial user doesn't download 24/7 even if they do use peer to
>peer. We don't all have to use peer to peer 24/7, perhaps a couple of nights
>a week each week would be enough. A couple of hours browsing per evening and
>downloading your email shouldn't need more than say 30GB a month total.
>Remember this is a shared service. How you use your connection impacts on
>others.
>
>If you need to peer to peer or download 24/7 then fine there isn't a problem
>with that but you need a comercial contract. Try it on Plusnet and you will
>get speed capped. Seems fair to me.
>

That's fine and I can't disagree with what you say.

However, I signed up for an unlimited, uncapped service. That is not
what I am getting.

--

Shevek

iTunesRegistry.com: 4,199 tracks, 2.968 diversity
http://www.itunesregistry.com/ reports/reports.php?showuser=2 011

Get DigiGuide - a downloadable desktop PC TV and Radio Guide
http://getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r =31493

Get Firefox!
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/? q=affiliates&id=8681&t=1

"Shevek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...

> That's fine and I can't disagree with what you say.
>
> However, I signed up for an unlimited, uncapped service. That is not
> what I am getting.

You would be hard pushed to find an isp without a limit nowadays. You are
unlikely to use that limit 24 hours a day 7 days a week, so I am not sure
what the problem is.

> >Are Plus.net saying you can't download over 30GB of peak traffic during a
> >month?
> >
>
> Basically yes - if you do more than that a few times in a few months
> you'll get bandwidth limits on p2p and Usenet

.... we are already getting 'prioritised', couldn't get much slower at peak times.

Chris

<x> wrote:

>
> "Shevek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
>> OK, Plusnet have now published the guidelines:
>>
>> http://www.plus.net/support/features...ge_guide.shtml
>>
>> I thought I'd do a little calculation to work out how to throttle
>> Azureus during peak hours and this is what I got:
>>
>> Peak Time - 30 Gb per month between 4 and 12
>>
>> 30 Gb per month = 0.99 Gb per day (based on 12 months / 365 days)
>> so maxed out over the 8 hours gives you just 36 Kbps to play with.
>>
>> So I thought I'd see what the remaining 70 Gb per month over the
>> remaining 16 hours per day works out at - 42 Kbps not much more!
>>
>> And 100 Gb over 24 hours a day works out at 40 Kbps
>>
>> This stinks! PlusNet users are basically limited to less than 1/7 of
>> our connection speed.
>>
>> Damn, I jumped the Pipex boat at the wrong time to the wrong island.
>>
>> Hmmm. How much do PlusNet charge to migrate out in the first 12
>> months...?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Shevek
>>
>>
>> iTunesRegistry.com: 4,199 tracks, 2.968 diversity
>> http://www.itunesregistry.com/ reports/reports.php?showuser=2 011
>>
>>
>> Get DigiGuide - a downloadable desktop PC TV and Radio Guide
>> http://getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r =31493
>>
>>
>> Get Firefox!
>> http://www.spreadfirefox.com/? q=affiliates&id=8681&t=1
>>
>
> Shevek,
>
> Your calculations may be correct (I haven't checked) but you based your
> whole argument on 24 hrs, 7 day a week constant usage. That's not how a
> typical consumer uses the Internet.


So I assume you are a POTS management trying to impose on internet
users how internet is used.
Try tuning into the 10,000+ internet stations and your caps
are fucked. What Shevek is trying to tell you is that
MinusNet's internet is run by POTS management
because they have keyhole bandwidth leaving their buildings
and gets fucked by the same internet that everyone else
use happily.


> A non commercial user doesn't download 24/7 even

Oh fucking hell. Look go back into the cave you crawled out from.
You never heard of 24/7 P2P?