Plusnet squeeze the leechers again

http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthre...Number=1987396

"In line with our ongoing network management plans, on Friday we will
be applying a managed profile to customers who have continued to use
an unsustainable amount of bandwidth on the service (in excess of
150GB per month on average). Their continued very heavy usage was
causing a detrimental impact on all our other customers, so we will
take steps to protect our other customers from this very small number
of very heavy users. Approximately half of the customers we contacted
two weeks ago have reduced their usage, so we are taking no further
action against them.

In September we will again review our customers’ usage to identify
those using the service an unsustainable amount. More than 90% of our
customers use less than 10GB per month. We have previously stated that
we consider anything above 100GB per month for a £21.99 Premier
customer to be unsustainable. For customers paying £29.99 this is
increased by 50GB, and for customers paying £39.99 per month this is
increased by a further 50GB. Therefore what we consider to be
unsustainable is higher for customers who pay more. These are not
‘caps’ or set limits and depend on what time of day customers use
their service. What we deem to be unsustainable will change over time
as usage patterns change. We will always focus on those customers who
drive peak time capacity and therefore we remind customers to please
schedule large downloads to off-peak times. "

As £39.99/month only buys ~40 GB/month of BT Central capacity there's
still a healthy cross-subsidy from the light users.

Phil

Must be all the ex PIPEX users
"Phil Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthre...Number=1987396
>
> "In line with our ongoing network management plans, on Friday we will
> be applying a managed profile to customers who have continued to use
> an unsustainable amount of bandwidth on the service (in excess of
> 150GB per month on average). Their continued very heavy usage was
> causing a detrimental impact on all our other customers, so we will
> take steps to protect our other customers from this very small number
> of very heavy users. Approximately half of the customers we contacted
> two weeks ago have reduced their usage, so we are taking no further
> action against them.
>
> In September we will again review our customers’ usage to identify
> those using the service an unsustainable amount. More than 90% of our
> customers use less than 10GB per month. We have previously stated that
> we consider anything above 100GB per month for a £21.99 Premier
> customer to be unsustainable. For customers paying £29.99 this is
> increased by 50GB, and for customers paying £39.99 per month this is
> increased by a further 50GB. Therefore what we consider to be
> unsustainable is higher for customers who pay more. These are not
> ‘caps’ or set limits and depend on what time of day customers use
> their service. What we deem to be unsustainable will change over time
> as usage patterns change. We will always focus on those customers who
> drive peak time capacity and therefore we remind customers to please
> schedule large downloads to off-peak times. "
>
> As £39.99/month only buys ~40 GB/month of BT Central capacity there's
> still a healthy cross-subsidy from the light users.
>
> Phil

To put this in perspective, 100Gb is just THREE webserver backup transfers!

If PlusNet were a newsagent, they would be the type that sell cigarettes
singly!

- Mike


"Phil Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthre...Number=1987396
>
> "In line with our ongoing network management plans, on Friday we will
> be applying a managed profile to customers who have continued to use
> an unsustainable amount of bandwidth on the service (in excess of
> 150GB per month on average). Their continued very heavy usage was
> causing a detrimental impact on all our other customers, so we will
> take steps to protect our other customers from this very small number
> of very heavy users. Approximately half of the customers we contacted
> two weeks ago have reduced their usage, so we are taking no further
> action against them.
>
> In September we will again review our customers' usage to identify
> those using the service an unsustainable amount. More than 90% of our
> customers use less than 10GB per month. We have previously stated that
> we consider anything above 100GB per month for a £21.99 Premier
> customer to be unsustainable. For customers paying £29.99 this is
> increased by 50GB, and for customers paying £39.99 per month this is
> increased by a further 50GB. Therefore what we consider to be
> unsustainable is higher for customers who pay more. These are not
> 'caps' or set limits and depend on what time of day customers use
> their service. What we deem to be unsustainable will change over time
> as usage patterns change. We will always focus on those customers who
> drive peak time capacity and therefore we remind customers to please
> schedule large downloads to off-peak times. "
>
> As £39.99/month only buys ~40 GB/month of BT Central capacity there's
> still a healthy cross-subsidy from the light users.
>
> Phil

Phil Thompson wrote:
>
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthre...Number=1987396
>
> "In line with our ongoing network management plans, on Friday we will
> be applying a managed profile to customers who have continued to use
> an unsustainable amount of bandwidth on the service (in excess of
> 150GB per month on average). Their continued very heavy usage was
> causing a detrimental impact on all our other customers, so we will
> take steps to protect our other customers from this very small number
> of very heavy users. Approximately half of the customers we contacted
> two weeks ago have reduced their usage, so we are taking no further
> action against them.
>
> In September we will again review our customers' usage to identify
> those using the service an unsustainable amount. More than 90% of our
> customers use less than 10GB per month. We have previously stated that
> we consider anything above 100GB per month for a £21.99 Premier
> customer to be unsustainable. For customers paying £29.99 this is
> increased by 50GB, and for customers paying £39.99 per month this is
> increased by a further 50GB. Therefore what we consider to be
> unsustainable is higher for customers who pay more. These are not
> 'caps' or set limits and depend on what time of day customers use
> their service. What we deem to be unsustainable will change over time
> as usage patterns change. We will always focus on those customers who
> drive peak time capacity and therefore we remind customers to please
> schedule large downloads to off-peak times. "
>
> As £39.99/month only buys ~40 GB/month of BT Central capacity there's
> still a healthy cross-subsidy from the light users.
>
> Phil

Even though I'm (sadly) sat in front of a pc most of the time I don't think
I've ever exceeded 10GB in amonth. What on earth are they downloading that
it should exceed 150GB. I guess it must be some serious p2p addiction.

"Deano" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:430473a1$0$1176$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Phil Thompson wrote:
> >
>
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthre...Number=1987396
> >
> > "In line with our ongoing network management plans, on Friday we will
> > be applying a managed profile to customers who have continued to use
> > an unsustainable amount of bandwidth on the service (in excess of
> > 150GB per month on average). Their continued very heavy usage was
> > causing a detrimental impact on all our other customers, so we will
> > take steps to protect our other customers from this very small number
> > of very heavy users. Approximately half of the customers we contacted
> > two weeks ago have reduced their usage, so we are taking no further
> > action against them.
> >
> > In September we will again review our customers' usage to identify
> > those using the service an unsustainable amount. More than 90% of our
> > customers use less than 10GB per month. We have previously stated that
> > we consider anything above 100GB per month for a £21.99 Premier
> > customer to be unsustainable. For customers paying £29.99 this is
> > increased by 50GB, and for customers paying £39.99 per month this is
> > increased by a further 50GB. Therefore what we consider to be
> > unsustainable is higher for customers who pay more. These are not
> > 'caps' or set limits and depend on what time of day customers use
> > their service. What we deem to be unsustainable will change over time
> > as usage patterns change. We will always focus on those customers who
> > drive peak time capacity and therefore we remind customers to please
> > schedule large downloads to off-peak times. "
> >
> > As £39.99/month only buys ~40 GB/month of BT Central capacity there's
> > still a healthy cross-subsidy from the light users.
> >
> > Phil
>
> Even though I'm (sadly) sat in front of a pc most of the time I don't
think
> I've ever exceeded 10GB in amonth. What on earth are they downloading
that
> it should exceed 150GB. I guess it must be some serious p2p addiction.
>
>

some months i can get up to 40GB a month i mainly use video and voice
messageing, lots of online gaming and some P2P if i ever get to 100GB a
month I shall have to have a long hard look at my life :P

Barry

I've tried to flog my Plusnet connection this month to see how much my
maximum usage would likely be. The only criteria was that my usage had to be
'useful' - not downloading crap just for the sake of it...

I've done plenty of web browsing, plenty of emailing, some ftp traffic, and
som bit-torrent uploads/downloads, and plenty of online gaming, but I've
just about reached 11Gb and will exceed 15Gb by the end of the month.

I'm at a loss to figure out how to use up in excess of 100Gb per month... I
also wouldnt have a clue what to download!

Deano wrote on Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:42:49 +0100:

> Phil Thompson wrote:
>>
> http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthre...Number=1987396
>>
>> "In line with our ongoing network management plans, on Friday we will
>> be applying a managed profile to customers who have continued to use
>> an unsustainable amount of bandwidth on the service (in excess of
>> 150GB per month on average). Their continued very heavy usage was

> Even though I'm (sadly) sat in front of a pc most of the time I don't
> think I've ever exceeded 10GB in amonth. What on earth are they
> downloading that it should exceed 150GB. I guess it must be some serious
> p2p addiction.
>

I agree. Hell, I p2p quite a bit (well, what I consider quite a bit) and
managed to rack up just under 30GB per month for the past 3 months running.

Dan

Mike wrote on Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:30:32 +0000 (UTC):

> To put this in perspective, 100Gb is just THREE webserver backup
> transfers!

You have 33GB on your webserver?

I've got a corporate webserver here running 3 moderate traffic (around
10,000 visitors per day) web sites, with a book database in excess of
400,000 rows with full bibliographic content, order history going back 2
years, and a mailing database of over 100,000 addresses with marketing
tracking codes on each record, and my entire server has only 18GB of disk
space (that's the total physical disk space of the server, not the total
currently in use, there's a few gig of space plus around 7GB of on disk
database backups + OS + database server binaries + installation files for
all apps on the machine + junk).

And I say again, you have 33GB on your webserver?

Dan

On 18 Aug 2005 11:30 UTC, "Mike H" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>To put this in perspective, 100Gb is just THREE webserver backup transfers!

But as Phil pointed out, even those paying 39.99 are not paying enough for the
traffic they generate. Metronet does an account which starts at under 30 quid
and offers 150 GB (but the downside is that by the time you reach 180 GB, it's
99.99 - and even they might complain if you were to use a lot more than that!!

Many Plus.Net customers are paying 21.99 for their service so the 39.99 price
is not necessarily what some of those heavy users are paying anyway. Peter.

[ PS It would be sensible to buy additional disks and do the backups on the
web server. Your customers should have a backup of their sites anyway, so
why would you be backing the whole unit up via Plus.Net ? Also, there was
a post within the past couple of weeks about a 1:1 connection at under 125
quid a month which might be a more 'reasonable' way to go - no 'fair use'
problems, and it was SDSL so if you needed to do a *restore* it would be
uploaded at the same speed as it was downloaded... but it was, from memory,
only 500 kbps so might be deemed too slow for your needs! ]

On 18 Aug 2005 12:50 "CJM" wrote:

>I've tried to flog my Plusnet connection this month to see how much my
>maximum usage would likely be. The only criteria was that my usage had
>to be 'useful' - not downloading just for the sake of it...

>I've done plenty of web browsing, plenty of emailing, some ftp traffic, ...
>I'm at a loss to figure out how to use up in excess of 100Gb per month...

Some months ago (perhaps back to October/November) a post suggested use
of some webcams as screen savers (I'm far from convinced, unless they are
on some rotating tower, so the same image isn't there all the time) and that
was causing what seemed to me to be a tremendous amount of traffic, but you
can find some which throw out 90 to 150 kB/s. It is unlikely to meet your
'useful' criteria, however. Films from CinemaNow.com at 400 to 700 MB a go
could be another major chunk, but I've seen some changes there and while it
is fine to stream films sometimes, at other times it starts buffering, and
the option to d/l to my HD seems no longer available... perhaps someone has
been making copies... I know not. I don't use any peer-to-peer to push up
my traffic but last month it was around 30 GB, some days at over 2 Gb and
of course others at 0.5 or less. However, I'm on Broadband Plus so the
types of traffic I get a full speed are not the same anyway. Peter.

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