Plusnet no SMTP server on plus?

http://www.plus.net/residential/broa...features.shtml

I was looking at the above page and just realised PlusNet don't offer
SMTP for people going on their £14.99 Plus packages

Has this always been the case or a change in the last few days?

They don't block any ports ...right? So I can still use windows software
that does MX look ups or my web hosting company's SMTP server or even
Gmail's SMTP server? so I can continue to use Thunderbird / Outlook ?

On 10 May 2005 at 03:22, in uk.telecom.broadband, Dee wrote:

>http://www.plus.net/residential/broa...features.shtml

>I was looking at the above page and just realised PlusNet don't offer
>SMTP for people going on their £14.99 Plus packages

>Has this always been the case or a change in the last few days?

It's been the case since this account was announced (though they did have
dynamic IP for ADSL some years ago, this account is the only one of their
current ADSL products with a dynamic IP; PAYG / Premier have static IP).

>They don't block any ports ...right? So I can still use windows software
>that does MX look ups or my web hosting company's SMTP server or even
>Gmail's SMTP server? so I can continue to use Thunderbird / Outlook ?

Yes, there's no problem about you sending mail, it is the delivery of mail
to the customer's IP using SMTP which is not provided, if the customer has
a dynamic IP, a feature of the Broadband Plus account. HTH. Peter.

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Dee wrote on Tue, 10 May 2005 03:22:34 +0100:

> http://www.plus.net/residential/broa...features.shtml
>
> I was looking at the above page and just realised PlusNet don't offer SMTP
> for people going on their £14.99 Plus packages
>
> Has this always been the case or a change in the last few days?
>
> They don't block any ports ...right? So I can still use windows software
> that does MX look ups or my web hosting company's SMTP server or even
> Gmail's SMTP server? so I can continue to use Thunderbird / Outlook ?

They don't allow INCOMING SMTP. You can still send outgoing via their
servers. It means you can't run your own mail server on your connection -
and being a dynamic IP it'd be a pita to organise anyway.

This was confirmed by PN support in this group 5 days ago when someone else
asked about the same thing.

Dan

Spack wrote to Dee on Tue, 10 May 2005 11:16:33 +0100:

> This was confirmed by PN support in this group 5 days ago when someone
> else asked about the same thing.

My mistake, it was a month and 5 days ago - 5th April.

Dan

"Spack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:3ebg02F222ffU1
@individual.net:

> They don't allow INCOMING SMTP.

From what I understand it isn't that they don't allow any incoming smtp,
it is that the incoming SMTP server that PlusNet provide (autoturn) to
customers is not available to those accounts.
If you had a non PlusNet domain pointing MX records to your IP it should
still work but any PlusNet hosted domains or your @username.plus.com
address will have to be delivered POP3 rather than through autoturn.

Still a PITA to manage though :0)

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cw wrote:
> "Spack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:3ebg02F222ffU1
> @individual.net:
>
>
>>They don't allow INCOMING SMTP.
>
>
> From what I understand it isn't that they don't allow any incoming smtp,
> it is that the incoming SMTP server that PlusNet provide (autoturn) to
> customers is not available to those accounts.
> If you had a non PlusNet domain pointing MX records to your IP it should
> still work but any PlusNet hosted domains or your @username.plus.com
> address will have to be delivered POP3 rather than through autoturn.
>
> Still a PITA to manage though :0)
>



Just to clarify,

I have my own newsletter which started off with me just telling friends
about things to do and see in London maybe going out 3 or 4 times a
month - but there's now about 2,000 people who get the plain text email.

So far I've been using a windows program which runs on my PC at home and
uses Pipex's DNS server and it's own SMTP server to look up each
person's email address and sends it out. On some email addresses this
doesn't work so it then uses the SMTP server at my hosting company.

I usually send out the email late at night usually after midnight.

Will this still work with the switch to Plus.net ?

Dee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> So far I've been using a windows program which runs on my PC at home and
> uses Pipex's DNS server and it's own SMTP server to look up each
> person's email address and sends it out. On some email addresses this
> doesn't work so it then uses the SMTP server at my hosting company.

> Will this still work with the switch to Plus.net ?

I would expect it to do so, yes, as PN doesn't block any ports other
than 137 & 139. (It's *not* the "no smtp" restriction you've previously
mentioned.)

Chris

Dee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:4280fd87$0
$323$(E-Mail Removed):

> Will this still work with the switch to Plus.net ?

It should do as long as it doesn't send out one message with 2000
recipients otherwise it will get tarpitted and take ages to transfer.

You could look into the mailing lists that come with PlusNet accounts -
just set it up and all you have to do is send a mail to the list and let
PlusNet's servers do the work rather than your own computer.

--
Colin
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chris-(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Dee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>So far I've been using a windows program which runs on my PC at home and
>>uses Pipex's DNS server and it's own SMTP server to look up each
>>person's email address and sends it out. On some email addresses this
>>doesn't work so it then uses the SMTP server at my hosting company.
>
>
>>Will this still work with the switch to Plus.net ?
>
>
> I would expect it to do so, yes, as PN doesn't block any ports other
> than 137 & 139. (It's *not* the "no smtp" restriction you've previously
> mentioned.)
>
> Chris


what's port 137 and 139 used for?

And to answer the other question no it send out email email in turn and
even pauses after using the hosting company's SMTP server so as not to
flood it.

cw wrote on 10 May 2005 16:50:19 GMT:

> "Spack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:3ebg02F222ffU1
> @individual.net:
>
>> They don't allow INCOMING SMTP.
>
> From what I understand it isn't that they don't allow any incoming smtp,
> it is that the incoming SMTP server that PlusNet provide (autoturn) to
> customers is not available to those accounts.
> If you had a non PlusNet domain pointing MX records to your IP it should
> still work but any PlusNet hosted domains or your @username.plus.com
> address will have to be delivered POP3 rather than through autoturn.
>
> Still a PITA to manage though :0)

If you read the post from PN support it specifically states that you get
normal incoming email to their SMTP servers, what the Advanced SMTP Delivery
"feature" refers to is running your own SMTP server. The reason it's not
supported is not that they block incoming port 25, it's that the Plus
accounts have a proper dynamic IP, so there's a chance that your IP will
change and incoming mail will be lost. With the Premier accounts you get a
static ("sticky") IP so you don't risk losing incoming mail to your own SMTP
app.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....6a1bb99fa1d049


Read for yourself.

Dan